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 Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 10:55 am
Bardess Ookami I quite understand. No worries.
"Does it matter? If the dead can not speak, what purpose their dreams? To continue alone or cease to be, the result is the same. Without communication, without others to share thoughts and ideas with . . . What purpose the dream?"
Akos shakes his head, "There are those who speak of a realm of spirits, who say the dead join them. That it is a place of happiness and contentment. If the dead continue, I prefer to think that such a place is where they reside. It would be nice to think they can dream there. But dream is hardly as important as community."
"For how can progress be accomplished, ideas built, true learning happen, without others. Dreams are good. But life is better." The last sentence struggles around a closed chest and is a bare whisper of sound.
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Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 2:52 pm
"I make no argument that life is or is not better, in that I much agree with you. But life is the plane which we know, the experiences that we recall. I do think, however, that to dream alone, is still better than to cease to be, while the best of all is to think, educate others, be educated by others, and repeat in a cycle. Community is good, if the community works to the improvement of each. Community that serves only to keep many together, however, could be worse perhaps, than no community at all. I think I would prefer to be alone with my thoughts, never to speak them, than to join with a community whose members, save me, are all skinwalkers. It would be a community, yes, but my only contribution would like as not be as food. What then of me, and save a small snack, what have they gained by banding together? For physical strength, they are stronger united by the bonds of community or pack, but for mental acuity, I fear that you or I contemplating in solitude would gain more. I've no wish to die, but at the thought that I know not what comes after, if anything, it holds no grim specter for me. We know that none who die can speak to us who live, perhaps, however, this is no guarantee that those who are dead, if they can in fact think, mayhaps amongst themselves, they can in fact communicate. As the case is that while we live we shall never know for certain, conjecture becomes an academic matter of interest, rather than something we can empirically investigate."
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Posted: Thu May 01, 2014 11:44 am
Bardess Ookami Sorry, Inoshishioni hit a tender spot for Akos. He's not 'must flee' - but he is certainly uncomfortable.
"I should go. My journey is barely started. And it seems I was not meant to make friends along the way."
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Posted: Fri May 02, 2014 10:02 am
He staggered a bit, as though he had been struck. "We do not have to discuss death, or Skinwalkers, if you do not wish," He said softly. Though he did not understand, how could one contemplate things deeply and truly if one closed himself off from whole topics categorically. Still, he would endeavor not to bring them up, in order to keep the friend.
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Posted: Sat May 03, 2014 9:15 pm
Akos takes a deep breath, trying to steady himself. The small stallion had spoken with a softness that was almost hesitant. While Inoshishioni was a new acquaintance, that seemed out of character. That, more than anything, got through the haze of aching hurt that had Akos near panic.
Spending a few moments breathing, allowing himself to find his center and balance again, Akos finally turns back to Inoshishioni. Another deep breath precedes his words, "I am sorry. I . . . that is a topic that is very tender. A wound not yet healed. It is because of this wound that I travel. Your words touched upon the pain."
Akos shakes his head, "You did not deserve my response to that pain. Yet I know I can not be rational on that topic at this time. I hope you can forgive that failing." He didn't know if the other stallion would or could understand. It was interesting to find someone with a mind like Inoshishioni's. It was good to be able to speak on such a level. Akos hoped he hadn't ruined the budding understanding between them.
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Posted: Mon May 05, 2014 2:02 am
Inoshishi gave that serious consideration, running his mind through the ramifications. A wound not yet healed implied that it would heal. A temporary inability to brace a particular subject was certainly less limiting than a long term, or even permanent one. It was still an unnecessary limitation, however. It was illogical to allow emotional pain to prevent you from thoroughly presuming any topic towards a higher state of understanding.
However, Inoshishioni was well aware that his own desire to have a friend he could talk to, and his own pain when Akos spoke of leaving was equally irrational. Were he a truly rational being, he would have accepted that there were other people with whom to speak, and benefit to the solitude of his own thoughts in turn. More, he would have had to acknowledge that continuing to converse with the same one other for too long was nearly as dangerous as speaking to no one at all, in that it lead to one's thinking becoming too narrow, remaining on the well worn paths of the mind, loosing the ability to see the off-shoot paths.
But he did want the friendship, as irrational as that was. So he supposed he could accept the other's foible for the time being, and hope that as the wound healed, so too would objectivity.
"There are a million avenues of thought in this world," Inoshishioni said finally. "Perhaps more than that even, this leaves us with a vast array of other themes upon which to lite, mentally. Have you made much study of the philosophies followed by the two legged beings who call themselves humans?"
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Posted: Mon May 05, 2014 9:38 am
Akos smiles when Inoshishi speaks. He was glad the other could accept him. In truth, Akos hadn't ever had a conversation like this before, except in his own mind. It was very nice to have someone else who thought like this to talk with.
Having been raised that every way was acceptable, unless it had no goal but the destruction or harm of others, Akos had learned many different ways of thinking and seeing the world. He could talk with the more emotional and less logical turns that most of those he had been around preferred. But this logic without emotion was . . . fun. And his mind sang to explore it.
"In honesty, I have barely heard of these Humans. I am only marginally aware of their existence, I have no knowledge beyond that on which to base thought or philosophy. However, I would enjoy expanding my knowledge."
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Posted: Mon May 05, 2014 2:22 pm
"They have a number of themselves they consider great thinkers, from all across the world. I spend time, outside the windows of what they term a college. I have learned much. There is one they call Thomas Aquinas, who despite the name has little to do with our kind. There is one who is called Moore who talks of a Utopia built on less, there are linked ones who are called Socrates, Aristotle, and Plato. There are Galileo, Copernicus, and Bruno who speak of the stars, but also of a concept they call God, which is somewhat hard to follow, as no one ever seems to explain it thoroughly. There are others as well, but my favorite is one they call Confucius. He speaks of benevolence, and of being a gentleman. When he says these things, what he seems to mean the most is that these are ways to be a good person who is thoughtful, well educated, and one who thinks more constantly than most act. He is quite fascinating. His teachings are gathered into non-continuous anecdotes. "
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Posted: Mon May 05, 2014 2:27 pm
Bardess Ookami Sorry it's so short, but it seemed the best response.
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Posted: Mon May 05, 2014 3:00 pm
"I tried once, I got chased right out of the building. There was a lot of screaming, and for all their reasoned discussion amongst themselves, no one seemed the least bit inclined to be reasonable with me."
He gave a small shrug. "I learn quite a bit this way, however, and am content. They ask questions I may not have thought to ask, and had I been in the conversation, my questions might have been heard over theirs, and then none of us would have had their answers."
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Posted: Mon May 05, 2014 3:05 pm
Akos shrugs, "Perhaps, but they didn't have your questions, or the directions of thought your words would have lead. It is good that some learning comes in this way. But it would be better if all voices were heard."
"I find it strange that these two legged beings find your presence frightening. I mean you no disservice when I say that you are not one I would normally think to inspire such an emotion."
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Posted: Mon May 05, 2014 3:12 pm
"As I listen to them, I find them a study in contradictions. They speak of the openness of the mind, and the exploration of the unknown, but then find the unknown to be a terror when confronted with it. They speak of equality of them mind, then judge one another based upon skin and hair and gender. While I think there is much that we can learn from them, I admit to not being exceptionally eager to further exposing myself to their somewhat unpredictable hypocrisy.
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Posted: Mon May 05, 2014 3:25 pm
Akos nods. "I can understand that position. I would not choose to subject myself to such either."
His head tilts to the side, "Have the others you discuss philosophy with had the same experiences with these humans? I wonder if, as they judge each other by color and gender, they judge you by your size. Having never met one such as yourself before, I have no prejudice; yet perhaps they have met others who look as you do and thus have built a false perception of truth upon what they know of those of your appearance."
"It is a sad truth that few are able to see beyond that which is apparent on the outside to the truth of an individual."
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 2:13 am
(I keep opening this RP, reading your post, staring at the screen going "Didn't I reply to this already?" opening a reply window, getting called away mid reply, and shutting down before I finish. I think I've started to rp to this more than a dozen times. Sorry sweatdrop )
"A sad truth indeed," he agreed. Then he hesitated, before admitting something that he tried hard not to let bother him. He tried, and often failed. "Actually, to be quite honest, and honesty is the best ways to blaze trails in the mind, to be quite honest, few have ever stayed to speak with me as long as you have. I know not why, we will have quite pleasant conversations and then at some point they simply wander off and resist my attempts to follow. It is admittedly quite distressing. And I do not think that an aspect of my size or kind, for I had foals once, and they too have wandered away. I have not seen them since. For the most part, I choose to believe that our paths shall again cross and at such a time, we can then discuss what we have learned, and each be broadened by the others. I do truly hope this or something similar shall come to pass, but as of yet, it has not."
He considered a moment, honest enough with himself to realize he sought a different topic, and annoyed with himself enough to realize that in light of what he had just said, and what they had been discussing, there was only one natural topic. It was not something he was proud to realize, but he must be honest, in order to fully explore the issues at hoof.
"I suppose, however, I have some hypocrisy to my name. It would be easier by far to stand and judge the humans for theirs, had I not, but it is in the very act of that judgment that I prove my own." he sighed softly. "My fear has me judge that it is best not to approach humans because of what has happened prior, but this means that I hesitate to approach those who were not present then, based on that which they did not do. Rationally I should push past this fear, however, I have not, as of yet. I find it more difficult than I care to readily admit."
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 10:55 am
Bardess Ookami No worries, I understand.
"Perhaps the human philosophers you attempted to speak with could not understand your words, or they sounded to them as something crass or rude." Auri shrugs. It isn't much but maybe it will help ease the small stallions mind.
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