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Votes are tallied up. This weeks topic is: Lord (Note Lucina counts since her starting class is Lord and can promote to Great Lord)

As for the topic on how votes are counted. While it's nice to hear how you think about how things should go, I still am the one who runs this thus it is my choice if I need to change things. I'm also saying that this is the end of this topic I really don't want to see more in here. It's starting to make me a bit upset for a few reasons. If you want to talk to me about this more, I will take private messaging. Anyway new topic!

Best: Ike. FE 9.

Worst: Micaiah.

Firstly, I had no clue that this was a voting thing, I thought we just stated what we did and didn't like...

Secondly, There is no need to fight, I just think that FROM WHAT I HAVE SEEN SO FAR the game looks like it's the best, I haven't played it but there are a lot of things people have shown me or told me so that I can tell I like it leagues better then any other FE game I have played. It's not a big enough deal to turn it into an argument about whether or not I can or can't vote. In fact I think we should have an orgy now to make everyone feel better!

Thirdly

BEST IF IT IS STATWISE:

FE9 Ike. Everyone elses reasons are pretty much the same for me here.

WORST IF IT IS STATWISE: Michiah I never finished the game cause I found it boring and un-interesting but my Michiah was garbage, also the one character you HAVE to keep alive has an ability to heal others... BY HURTING HERSELF I didn't know how that s**t worked at first and she died cause of it.

BEST IF ALLAROUND: Ephraim. Interesting character, great growths, gets a horse and yea he's just really cool. The only lame thing is that in his path a certain character's shocking development isn't revealed

WORST IF ALLAROUND: Marth. Like honestly, screw him. He's whiny, boring both his games suck, Nintendo WONT STOP WHORING HIM OUT AND HIS FOWARD AIR ATTACK IS COMPLETELY BROKEN AND ANYTIME I GET THE SMASH BALL I KILL MYSELF WITH IT.

Frankly, I find the votes get constantly more skewed into something objectionable when people are voting without having played too many of the games in the series anyway. Consider how many people have only played the localized games: they definitely have a bigger impact than Joshua Kieran voting for FE13 (and I'm always like "why vote for something about the entire series if you don't even KNOW the majority of the series" but it's something I have to accept). So arguably unfair skewing is going to happen. We just have to let everyone vote whether we like it or not for the sake of inclusivity.

Surely this is about them as units rather than as characters, yes?

Best: Sigurd

Kicks a** the moment you get him and continues to do so for the entirety of Gen 1, on a horse, not having to worry about getting promoted, with access to the best physical weapon type in the game and a sweet Silver Sword. Plenty of other lords are good, sure, but other lords have to grow before they become great and Sigurd starts as your strongest character (and let's be clear: other great Lords such as Ike, Hector, Ephraim, etc. do not - they have to grow to become that) and remains one of your strongest for the entire time you have him.

Worst: Roy

Horrible promotion situation, particularly lousy combat and growths for a lord. Who doesn't hate having to deal with carrying Roy around by the middle of the game onward? Further, he offers incredibly little support to other units. Yes, he has a large support list. But consider for a moment that those supports have to be earned in a given playthrough and he can only have five supports total.

FE5 Leaf also has arguably lousy combat and promotion (not to the extent of Roy though, for numerous reasons) but he supports a LOT more units at once without ever having to unlock said supports. They're just always on. Micaiah (who I don't think is bad, but her combat is VERY situational and eventually becomes pretty poor) eventually gets staves and has Sacrifice which lets you play with all sorts of things. Every other lord that might be questionable in terms of combat outperforms Roy in some other area. Roy really does finish dead last.

..I'll ignore other comments made about the past subject because I'm feeling particularly stubborn and irritable about reading things today and have nothing nice I can say.

BUT I do want to discuss Micaiah. Horrible character. We know that. But as a unit? She's going to be one of your best Dawn Brigaders ever. She's the easiest of them to max out in part 1 and you're talking to a guy who manages to promote Nolan, Aran and Edward as well as max her. How? No, no bonus experience; I know how to use my units. She has solid enough stats and good enough growths- and very good mag and luck growths for what luck is worth. Unlike other 'lords', she will always be able to attack close up and at a distance, plus her unique weapon is OP as anything. She also is capable oh healing team members and farming exp every. single. turn. for the entire part 1. Honestly, if you're having trouble maxing her, then you're majorly neglecting her. She's an asset on the battlefield, plan and simple. That's the only thing I can do to defend her.

Seconding Rath about Micaiah.

Part 1, she's a glass canon if anything, but a VERY strong glass canon. Thani is hands down one of the best personal weapons ever too, and one-shots all sorts of enemies. She's the only tier 1 unit that can equip Paragon also, IIRC.

Sacrifice, if nothing else, is a way for her to earn exp faster if she has nothing better to do (and if you're using Laura, you can have Micaiah use Sacrifice and then have Laura heal Micaiah instead - it's free experience). Plus, it makes a really cool combo with Wrath since she can control her HP level much more easily than your other units (I suppose it would work with Resolve as well, but I think there are better uses for that skill and I've never tried it, personally).

Part 3, she gets staves and is your only healer besides Laura, except Laura is a bigger pain to level IMO since she's stuck healing with no opportunity for combat in tier 1 and becomes a great support unit who can make potshots when appropriate. I DO find her offenses to seriously wane here and she has a harder time abusing Thani because if she doesn't kill in one hit, she'll probably BE killed in one hit. But staves alone make her perfectly usable, and since you're forced to use her, I think that's the best use for her from this point on. She becomes the DB main healer, and it's not like they couldn't use one.

Against physical enemies, she does have to be guarded, but uh, this is true for plenty of units throughout the series. Her pros definitely outweigh her cons.

Exactly.

And she comes with an immediate A support with Sothe. Micaiah's character might suck, but as a unit she's underrated.

Please ignore my first votes. I was going off of characterization, not usefulness as a unit. My votes with this new info are as follows:

Best: Lyn
I've already stated how I love using myrmidon/swordmaster units, so I usually level up those units the most. Also, they're usually the only units who can double-attack the final boss (in my experience). Hector is great, but he's more of a tank, which does not fit with my play-style. Ike is also useful, but I've never got him to the point where he can double-attack the final boss.

Worst: Eirika
I haven't played FE1 through 6, so I really have no idea how Roy is as a unit. (If someone can direct me to where I can play English versions of the first 6 games, please let me know. I would like to play them, if only for posterity's sake.) I tend not to level-grind, so I'm basing this off of which units were most useful in Endgame, when they're at the highest level I'll likely get them to. And in every game of FE8 I've ever played, Eirika was never on the front lines once the final boss appeared. If I could've left her out of that fight, I would've.

(Note: I'm a very casual player, so please take all my reasons with a grain of salt.)