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Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 8:55 pm
jessieomer I will try to use my PS but like i said, the lines arent always the best. There's also gimp. I don't use it myself, but I've only heard good things about it.
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Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 8:46 pm
hmmm. I wonder what Red uses. I dunno, im not quite satisfied with any of my art programs. maybe I should do softies instead.
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Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 8:51 pm
jessieomer I pull you in here, cause I saw your pixel post in your art thread and well seeing as this is a pixel shop you may have ideas or time to spare for this. Ah, well...
I've never really seen/participated in a pixel shop on Gaia, so I don't really know how they function all too well, so I don't think I could make any good suggestions until I start reading more ^^" If you guys do settle for something and need an artist, though, I'll be more than happy to at least try.
Ah, if we're discussing what programs we use...
I used to use Paint for the more simple things like sprites and such, though recently I've been trying to use SAI more...in fact all my recent stuff is in SAI, save for one silly pixel I made in my photoshop class when I was bored. It's quite the nice program ^^
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Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 10:13 pm
MS Paint actually works quite well for pixel art. I'm not a huge fan of Gimp to be honest, but I know a lot of people who love it.
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Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 9:43 am
The newer paint I dont like. The older one actually made you snap to a grid, so it was easier to get my lines straight and whatnot. that way I could do the lines and they would actually connect.
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Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 4:54 pm
I like the newer paint a lot more. Mostly because of the zoom change. I guess it's all just personal preference!
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Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 5:48 pm
Alright. We need item ideas and all that so I may get the request to the art shop and get you guys drawing.
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Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 8:43 pm
I know I could learn how to do pixel art if I tried, I just.. Never have. I could start learning though? I don't think I'll be much help though. crying
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Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 1:47 pm
Oh its alright. You don't have to force yourself to learn to pixel. In fact, you can help with item ideas. I have only been in a small bookstore, so I really wouldn't know anything about a big operation.
Item Ideas: Books (obviously) Bookmarks Pencil Packs Calendars Booklights Blank journals Thank You Notes
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Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 3:32 pm
Maybe a buildables section where you can select bookends and a bunch of books.
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Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 7:40 am
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Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 10:54 am
Hey, I got a question for you because I went digging around through past ball guilds. I didn't see any that had pixel art shops thus as a result, I could not find anything that would clarify this either way. Who retains ownership rights over pixel art created that is sold in the annual ball shop... the person who created it or the annual ball fundraising committee?Sorry if it seems like I'm being a troublemaker by asking that... but there are several mini shops in existences that are still up and running that were created by one person who ran the shop then it was auctioned off to a new owner. Under these situations, the original creator never later starts up a new shop that sells the same kind of merchandise that was auctioned off. Thus likewise if the annual ball fundraising committee retains full ownership over all pixels created, there's going to be that same appropriateness issue about creating and selling items of the same type in a shop in the future.
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Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 11:22 am
Sachie Whitby Hey, I got a question for you because I went digging around through past ball guilds. I didn't see any that had pixel art shops thus as a result, I could not find anything that would clarify this either way. Who retains ownership rights over pixel art created that is sold in the annual ball shop... the person who created it or the annual ball fundraising committee?Sorry if it seems like I'm being a troublemaker by asking that... but there are several mini shops in existences that are still up and running that were created by one person who ran the shop then it was auctioned off to a new owner. Under these situations, the original creator never later starts up a new shop that sells the same kind of merchandise that was auctioned off. Thus likewise if the annual ball fundraising committee retains full ownership over all pixels created, there's going to be that same appropriateness issue about creating and selling items of the same type in a shop in the future. This will be the first pixel shop created by the Fundraising Committee. as it is, I am not quite sure about that. I don't think we planned on selling the shop at the end, although that might be a good thing because it would garner cash for the next ball. I think I am actually not sure on this. In the immediate future, there may not be a book type of theme, but you never know, later on down the line there might be something. However, I am not sure. Honestly, I guess if the artist would rather own their art, that might help with if they ever want to expand on the pixels they made in here. How does the summer/fall/winter/etc collective do it? Is it ownership for the artist who made it, thus that person can reuse their pixels?
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Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 12:53 pm
I mentioned shops being auctioned off because those are situations where one person has essentially built a shop, created all the pixel merchandize for it, created all the graphics for it, etc , but someone else owns the shop to the extent that they keep all 100% of the profits from the shop while the original creator gets nothing. What I am getting at is that there is some precedence for a scenario where one person is creating pixel art, but the Annual Ball Fundraising Committee keeps all 100% of the profit and owns the pixel art to the extent that the artist can never reuse any of it... [This is even more true if the fundraising committee wants to auction the shop off completely as it would mean that everyone would also need to turn over their bases to the auction winner.] Okay I think I need to be up front about something... I've already sunk quite a bit of time into creating a logo [along with a few items] for a Mini Shop I'm making that is going to be a magic shop of the fantasy wizards and sorcerers variety. This means that there's going to be a slight overlap in the Annual Ball running a book shop and me wanting to make spellbooks for my own shop later. I'm really not okay with any scenario where I don't get to reuse whatever bases I create for books as there's really only so many ways that you can pixel draw what is essentially just a rectanguar object. So in terms of diving up tasks for this shop, it might be a good idea to have me do art for the non-book things... or alternatively, if someone else does the base art for the books, I can do coloring and add titles plus can put them together with bookends as buildables. jessieomer How does the summer/fall/winter/etc collective do it? Is it ownership for the artist who made it, thus that person can reuse their pixels? The ownership remains entirely with the artist who makes it, even during the collective. It's just a special themed joint shop where all participating artists agree to split the profits evenly between all artists that submit something with no regards to how much profit each artist would actually make if they had gone solo. Items are also grouped according to who made them, so all the blood food and drinks I'm going to submit will be clearly under a section that identifies me as their creator. I just cannot sell them in a shop while the Halloween Collective 2012 shop is running but once it shuts down, I can open up my own shop and resell them all I want... or if running a food shop [even a blood-based food shop] isn't my thing, I can sit on them for a year then resubmit them for the Halloween Collective 2013 shop. For example -- Vintage Ink did little giftbags [and sometimes with other things] with some of the collective shops from Spring 2010 onward that are being resold through her shop Royal Ink as past limiteds. They can be seen on page #2 of the past limiteds thread. Since she resold them through her own shop, they cannot be resubmitted to the collective.
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Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 3:58 pm
I think whatever theme or shop idea that the Fundraising Committee goes with, will overlap with any idea person pixel in it come up with. As essentially, if one person could claim food as their shop, there would be only one food shop in the mini shop forum (which isnt the case). See, they all pretty much have the same basis for items, so if you think there might be a problem here as to what overlaps or copies I really wouldn't worry about it.
The pixel shop we are opening is a limited time thing and as soon as the ball is over with, it will probably never be used again. See, I had planned it to where the artists could just take back their artwork, and probably open up their own themed shop. I figured this would be much like the art shop, where yes the art is that of the artist, but the money earned from it goes entirely to the ball (which is why the art shops are volunteer based). The only difference of course is the fact that this artwork can be sold in mass quantities and not specialized to the person buying it, much like art is.
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