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 Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 12:24 am
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Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:58 am
2 Boxes... gonk
So much to paint... Not that I already had a lot of infantry to paint for my Word Bearers already... But those Cultists... and the Chosen... THE HELLBRUTE! <3
Plastic is Fantastic~
So anyone painted up anything yet from this marvelous box?
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Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:18 am
Chaplain and Libby,
still working on the Ravenwing Bikers. ninja
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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 5:59 am
I continue to be impressed by the quality of the plastic casts in the newer kits, especially these starters. Why does GW even continue to make new resin casts? Why not just put plastics in blisters?
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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 7:41 am
DarkElf27 I continue to be impressed by the quality of the plastic casts in the newer kits, especially these starters. Why does GW even continue to make new resin casts? Why not just put plastics in blisters? The injection mold for a plastic kit, regardless of size, is far more expensive than a casting wheel or mold for a resin or pewter model. As an example, the Land Raider plastic kit was an investment that took them a good few years to earn back. That GW is able to crank out so many plastic kits per year is quite a feat, especially when compared to companies such as say, Tamiya or Revell Monogram, who do about a dozen or so kits per year. GW has been experimenting with single plastics in blisters, mostly over at the Fantasy range, though with Chaos last month they've released their first 40k themed single model blister done in plastic. We'll see how it goes.
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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 7:44 am
Lt. Brookman DarkElf27 I continue to be impressed by the quality of the plastic casts in the newer kits, especially these starters. Why does GW even continue to make new resin casts? Why not just put plastics in blisters? The injection mold for a plastic kit, regardless of size, is far more expensive than a casting wheel or mold for a resin or pewter model. As an example, the Land Raider plastic kit was an investment that took them a good few years to earn back. That GW is able to crank out so many plastic kits per year is quite a feat, especially when compared to companies such as say, Tamiya or Revell Monogram, who do about a dozen or so kits per year. GW has been experimenting with single plastics in blisters, mostly over at the Fantasy range, though with Chaos last month they've released their first 40k themed single model blister done in plastic. We'll see how it goes. I wonder how they can afford to sell their starter models so cheaply then, if the resin process is so much more affordable... Hopefully some combination of quality and economy wins out.
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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 7:48 am
DarkElf27 I wonder how they can afford to sell their starter models so cheaply then, if the resin process is so much more affordable... Hopefully some combination of quality and economy wins out. Starters always sell, so those are easier to earn back on. Starters are the linchpin of the whole hobby really. GW stores are pressured by the powers that be to sell-sell-sell starters above anything else. Also, the contents of the current starter are quality wise a mixed bag. The chaos minis are absolutely top-notch. The Dark Angels on the other hand, not so much sadly. The starter is however a great study into how to best order your sprues and make the most use of the space given for parts and how to best "pull" models apart for easy of assembly. Resin is indeed a cheaper process, yet GW has managed to not only force a noticeable drop in quality, but also kick up the prices another notch.
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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 7:57 am
Lt. Brookman Starters always sell, so those are easier to earn back on. Starters are the linchpin of the whole hobby really. GW stores are pressured by the powers that be to sell-sell-sell starters above anything else. Also, the contents of the current starter are quality wise a mixed bag. The chaos minis are absolutely top-notch. The Dark Angels on the other hand, not so much sadly. The starter is however a great study into how to best order your sprues and make the most use of the space given for parts and how to best "pull" models apart for easy of assembly. Resin is indeed a cheaper process, yet GW has managed to not only force a noticeable drop in quality, but also kick up the prices another notch. Between the starter and the new eye-candy-licious Chaos kits, I think they're really trying to push that army as of late. And starters mean new customers, so that marketing strategy makes sense. I personally just hate working with Resin because it's so delicate, and difficult to fix.
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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 8:09 am
DarkElf27 Lt. Brookman Starters always sell, so those are easier to earn back on. Starters are the linchpin of the whole hobby really. GW stores are pressured by the powers that be to sell-sell-sell starters above anything else. Also, the contents of the current starter are quality wise a mixed bag. The chaos minis are absolutely top-notch. The Dark Angels on the other hand, not so much sadly. The starter is however a great study into how to best order your sprues and make the most use of the space given for parts and how to best "pull" models apart for easy of assembly. Resin is indeed a cheaper process, yet GW has managed to not only force a noticeable drop in quality, but also kick up the prices another notch. Between the starter and the new eye-candy-licious Chaos kits, I think they're really trying to push that army as of late. And starters mean new customers, so that marketing strategy makes sense. I personally just hate working with Resin because it's so delicate, and difficult to fix. It's something that GW has more or less always been doing with the starter armies: Make sure that those get their releases before or after the new starter release so that new players who really like either army have a range of shinies to go for. Resin is a mixed blessing really. It can be a joy to work with and depending on the mix used, can be easy / hard to break. Downsides are of course the bubbles, vents and toxic resin dust.
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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 8:23 am
Lt. Brookman DarkElf27 Lt. Brookman Starters always sell, so those are easier to earn back on. Starters are the linchpin of the whole hobby really. GW stores are pressured by the powers that be to sell-sell-sell starters above anything else. Also, the contents of the current starter are quality wise a mixed bag. The chaos minis are absolutely top-notch. The Dark Angels on the other hand, not so much sadly. The starter is however a great study into how to best order your sprues and make the most use of the space given for parts and how to best "pull" models apart for easy of assembly. Resin is indeed a cheaper process, yet GW has managed to not only force a noticeable drop in quality, but also kick up the prices another notch. Between the starter and the new eye-candy-licious Chaos kits, I think they're really trying to push that army as of late. And starters mean new customers, so that marketing strategy makes sense. I personally just hate working with Resin because it's so delicate, and difficult to fix. It's something that GW has more or less always been doing with the starter armies: Make sure that those get their releases before or after the new starter release so that new players who really like either army have a range of shinies to go for. Resin is a mixed blessing really. It can be a joy to work with and depending on the mix used, can be easy / hard to break. Downsides are of course the bubbles, vents and toxic resin dust. Maybe you should write a guide on working with resin minis. biggrin I've barely any experience with them.
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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 8:28 am
DarkElf27 Lt. Brookman DarkElf27 Lt. Brookman Starters always sell, so those are easier to earn back on. Starters are the linchpin of the whole hobby really. GW stores are pressured by the powers that be to sell-sell-sell starters above anything else. Also, the contents of the current starter are quality wise a mixed bag. The chaos minis are absolutely top-notch. The Dark Angels on the other hand, not so much sadly. The starter is however a great study into how to best order your sprues and make the most use of the space given for parts and how to best "pull" models apart for easy of assembly. Resin is indeed a cheaper process, yet GW has managed to not only force a noticeable drop in quality, but also kick up the prices another notch. Between the starter and the new eye-candy-licious Chaos kits, I think they're really trying to push that army as of late. And starters mean new customers, so that marketing strategy makes sense. I personally just hate working with Resin because it's so delicate, and difficult to fix. It's something that GW has more or less always been doing with the starter armies: Make sure that those get their releases before or after the new starter release so that new players who really like either army have a range of shinies to go for. Resin is a mixed blessing really. It can be a joy to work with and depending on the mix used, can be easy / hard to break. Downsides are of course the bubbles, vents and toxic resin dust. Maybe you should write a guide on working with resin minis. biggrin I've barely any experience with them. Hehe, nah. I'm not exactly qualified for stuff like that. Plus I lack the patience and discipline for that.
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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 8:31 am
Lt. Brookman DarkElf27 Lt. Brookman DarkElf27 Lt. Brookman Starters always sell, so those are easier to earn back on. Starters are the linchpin of the whole hobby really. GW stores are pressured by the powers that be to sell-sell-sell starters above anything else. Also, the contents of the current starter are quality wise a mixed bag. The chaos minis are absolutely top-notch. The Dark Angels on the other hand, not so much sadly. The starter is however a great study into how to best order your sprues and make the most use of the space given for parts and how to best "pull" models apart for easy of assembly. Resin is indeed a cheaper process, yet GW has managed to not only force a noticeable drop in quality, but also kick up the prices another notch. Between the starter and the new eye-candy-licious Chaos kits, I think they're really trying to push that army as of late. And starters mean new customers, so that marketing strategy makes sense. I personally just hate working with Resin because it's so delicate, and difficult to fix. It's something that GW has more or less always been doing with the starter armies: Make sure that those get their releases before or after the new starter release so that new players who really like either army have a range of shinies to go for. Resin is a mixed blessing really. It can be a joy to work with and depending on the mix used, can be easy / hard to break. Downsides are of course the bubbles, vents and toxic resin dust. Maybe you should write a guide on working with resin minis. biggrin I've barely any experience with them. Hehe, nah. I'm not exactly qualified for stuff like that. Plus I lack the patience and discipline for that. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't your entire army made from resin? wink
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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 8:36 am
DarkElf27 Lt. Brookman DarkElf27 Lt. Brookman DarkElf27 Lt. Brookman Starters always sell, so those are easier to earn back on. Starters are the linchpin of the whole hobby really. GW stores are pressured by the powers that be to sell-sell-sell starters above anything else. Also, the contents of the current starter are quality wise a mixed bag. The chaos minis are absolutely top-notch. The Dark Angels on the other hand, not so much sadly. The starter is however a great study into how to best order your sprues and make the most use of the space given for parts and how to best "pull" models apart for easy of assembly. Resin is indeed a cheaper process, yet GW has managed to not only force a noticeable drop in quality, but also kick up the prices another notch. Between the starter and the new eye-candy-licious Chaos kits, I think they're really trying to push that army as of late. And starters mean new customers, so that marketing strategy makes sense. I personally just hate working with Resin because it's so delicate, and difficult to fix. It's something that GW has more or less always been doing with the starter armies: Make sure that those get their releases before or after the new starter release so that new players who really like either army have a range of shinies to go for. Resin is a mixed blessing really. It can be a joy to work with and depending on the mix used, can be easy / hard to break. Downsides are of course the bubbles, vents and toxic resin dust. Maybe you should write a guide on working with resin minis. biggrin I've barely any experience with them. Hehe, nah. I'm not exactly qualified for stuff like that. Plus I lack the patience and discipline for that. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't your entire army made from resin? wink Eh, fifty-fifty. The other half is thankfully plastic, I'd off myself otherwise. FW can do that to you.
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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 8:50 am
Lt. Brookman Eh, fifty-fifty. The other half is thankfully plastic, I'd off myself otherwise. FW can do that to you. See? You don't like working with resin either! Or is it just the quality of Forgeworld casts? I remember when the SM vs. Nid starter came out, I stocked up on genestealers and termagants because they were so cheap, albeit from a third-party source. I'd imagine tons of people are doing that for cultists right now!
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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 9:10 am
DarkElf27 Lt. Brookman Eh, fifty-fifty. The other half is thankfully plastic, I'd off myself otherwise. FW can do that to you. See? You don't like working with resin either! Or is it just the quality of Forgeworld casts? I remember when the SM vs. Nid starter came out, I stocked up on genestealers and termagants because they were so cheap, albeit from a third-party source. I'd imagine tons of people are doing that for cultists right now! FW is marketed as a luxury good, but the quality you get for the price asked is a crime really. More often than not parts are bent out of shape, ruined by large vents or a piece of cheese thanks to an insane amount of bubbles. Main problem with the cultists is that when looking at the grunts, there are four variants really. Each squad is made up of a leader, special weapons type and two times four the same guy. While the models ooze with character, it is quickly lost when you toss a large unit on the table with ten of the same "bird beaked" cultists in a unit.
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