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 Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2005 2:40 pm
I stayed up watching the Pope's funeral from 12:00 to 4:30 pacific time. I am very tired, but I'm glad I did. I was intrigued. As a general rule, I hate people, especially en mass. However, on rare occasions they can impress me.
Anyone else watch it live? Share your thoughts?
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Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 10:12 pm
I watched a little on the news, and heard that the Catholic church was going to make him a saint.
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Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 6:15 am
Saint making takes a LONG time. While I wouldn't be surprised at ALL, he's got to have a few miracles attributed to him for a few years first.
100 years is about how long it often takes. I don't think Mother Teresa is a saint yet.
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Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 10:42 am
Malkut Saint making takes a LONG time. While I wouldn't be surprised at ALL, he's got to have a few miracles attributed to him for a few years first. 100 years is about how long it often takes. I don't think Mother Teresa is a saint yet. But... Mother Teresa died just after Princess Diana did eek
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Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 12:39 pm
I'm a Christian...Protestant to be exact. Religion is a big part of my life...being raised by a preacher's widow (grandma) and a preacher's kid (mom). 3nodding
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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 10:51 am
I watched the funeral and must say it was an impressive scene. All of those people gathered there for one man. It was very moving to see such an outpour of love for the same person...
In my case I was baptized catholic and had my first communion. In good catholic tradition I was too young too understand really what it was. I was in a catholic school up till 8th grade. A school that was run by nuns. Of course I rebelled as soon as I got out. A religion in which you cannot question and say only it is the absolute truth and all others will burn in hell was just not for me. I was for a long time after that I entered Santeria and still am although not as much as I was. I now follow a pagan path. So.. that's my story. xd
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Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 3:15 am
Sarah Kirk I watched the funeral and must say it was an impressive scene. All of those people gathered there for one man. It was very moving to see such an outpour of love for the same person... In my case I was baptized catholic and had my first communion. In good catholic tradition I was too young too understand really what it was. I was in a catholic school up till 8th grade. A school that was run by nuns. Of course I rebelled as soon as I got out. A religion in which you cannot question and say only it is the absolute truth and all others will burn in hell was just not for me. I was for a long time after that I entered Santeria and still am although not as much as I was. I now follow a pagan path. So.. that's my story. xd Many of my friends are Catholic...the majority of my public school is...I'm one of the 3% (out of 1300 kids) that isn't. sweatdrop Some of them went to one of those nun run schools...most of them got themselves kicked out on purpose or moved. I only knew 2 of them to stuck it through 8th grade...they're strange but they're cool all the same. 3nodding
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Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 3:18 am
Malkut Saint making takes a LONG time. While I wouldn't be surprised at ALL, he's got to have a few miracles attributed to him for a few years first. 100 years is about how long it often takes. I don't think Mother Teresa is a saint yet. Huh? Why that long...can't you just call them a saint when they died after a good life and all that jazz? I'm clueless I know... sweatdrop
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Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 6:57 am
If I'm something, I'm christian. Though I'm not so sure about that I would be the one who will go to Heaven after death. Because I'm not very faithful when it comes to praying or reading the Bible. Or going to church. You could say that I'm the lost sheep. And it makes me depressed.
Though, couple days ago I realized that I cannot become a 'good' christian with just snap of fingers and all by myself. It's impossible. So, I should lower governs toward myself. I think, that when taking little steps (like starting to pray before meals and so on), I will be more successful. The same, of course goes to every other life changes I should make (the health, for example).
And no one, I mean no one, can say that I'm living my life wrong. I met this one girl once (she is my neighbor gonk ) who told me that when I live with my bf who isn't christian and we are not married, I'm doing adultery. That made me very depressed and I wanted less to go in church. Now, I try to shrug it off because she has no right to judge me when she even doesn't know me. The only one who has right to judge me and my sins, is God.
For now on, I'm going to live the way I believe is right. If that is not the way God wanted, I'm doomed. But that is then my choice. But no one can say that my choice would be wrong if I don't feel like it is.
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Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 9:56 am
Erisad Sarah Kirk I watched the funeral and must say it was an impressive scene. All of those people gathered there for one man. It was very moving to see such an outpour of love for the same person... In my case I was baptized catholic and had my first communion. In good catholic tradition I was too young too understand really what it was. I was in a catholic school up till 8th grade. A school that was run by nuns. Of course I rebelled as soon as I got out. A religion in which you cannot question and say only it is the absolute truth and all others will burn in hell was just not for me. I was for a long time after that I entered Santeria and still am although not as much as I was. I now follow a pagan path. So.. that's my story. xd Many of my friends are Catholic...the majority of my public school is...I'm one of the 3% (out of 1300 kids) that isn't. sweatdrop Some of them went to one of those nun run schools...most of them got themselves kicked out on purpose or moved. I only knew 2 of them to stuck it through 8th grade...they're strange but they're cool all the same. 3nodding I don't really know how i was able to stick with it. I guess i stopped paying attention to the nuns. They said things and I would be like yeah ok on the out side and you are out of your mind on the inside. lol I guess i paid more ayention on my studies and doing my time. Thankfully the school was up to 8th grade only. sweatdrop And after finding my own path realy helped. No wonder I went so far from catholisism but hey i'm happy now. xd
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Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 4:24 pm
Erisad Malkut Saint making takes a LONG time. While I wouldn't be surprised at ALL, he's got to have a few miracles attributed to him for a few years first. 100 years is about how long it often takes. I don't think Mother Teresa is a saint yet. Huh? Why that long...can't you just call them a saint when they died after a good life and all that jazz? I'm clueless I know... sweatdrop They go through a whole process called beatification. First the church has to decide they're a good person (I think this has definatly already happened). Then people have to bring forth cases saying that that certain person has performed miracles in their lives. Then those miracles have to be investigated to make sure that they're not fake. It's a bunch of red tape, but it was started back in the days where if your family paid a shitton of money you could be a saint right after you died. It's to keep that from happening.
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Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 5:19 am
Gwyndara My belifes:
The Plan of Salvation.
We started out as intelligences, then became spirit children of Heavenly Parents. We wanted to be like them, so they created a world for us, as they did for others who had come before us.
We were born to the earth, gained a body, learned how to follow God.
Then we die. we go to sprit paradise, or prison depending on how we lived our life.
Then we have judgement.
Then we are resurected and gaiin a perfect body.
Then according to how we lived our lives we then recieve our glory.
The celestial Kingdom were we can become a God our selves,
The terestrial Kingdom were good people who don't accept Christ will live.
and the telestial Kingdom were all the evil people rapists and murdurers etc. will go.
That is my complicated religion condensed into simplisity.
Most of the finer points are left out simply becasue it takes to long to explain.I have had many dealings and expierinces with many different religions and belife systems, I am open minded.
But I have found that the religion I belong to answeres every question ever asked. Hey, I love your name! It looks as though we share the same religion. I belong to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Gwyndara summed it up.
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Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 6:27 am
Malkut Erisad Huh? Why that long...can't you just call them a saint when they died after a good life and all that jazz? I'm clueless I know... sweatdrop They go through a whole process called beatification. First the church has to decide they're a good person (I think this has definatly already happened). Then people have to bring forth cases saying that that certain person has performed miracles in their lives. Then those miracles have to be investigated to make sure that they're not fake. It's a bunch of red tape, but it was started back in the days where if your family paid a shitton of money you could be a saint right after you died. It's to keep that from happening. I was watching the news and a Catholic scholar said that they have to have proof of miracles from AFTER the person dies too. Since somehow being able to still help people from heaven is the real test of sainthood or something. I'm a Christian, but I'm not sure I agree with the concept of sainthood, at least in what the guy on the news said. It seems to me that we should be praying for God to help us, not dead people. I was raised by a Baptist minister, so some people might say I had no choice in the matter, but I would strongly disagree. I've never been the kind of person to just accept anything I'm told, and I've really done a lot of studying about Christianity and other religions. And I believe Christianity rings the truest. Too many amazing things have also happened in my life because of God that there is no way I could believe in anything else.
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Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 10:20 pm
My religion doesn't have "Saints" the way the catholic church does.
We do belive in Angels tho.
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Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 10:26 pm
Kira_Sunfire I'm a Christian, but I'm not sure I agree with the concept of sainthood, at least in what the guy on the news said. It seems to me that we should be praying for God to help us, not dead people. I completely understand. But let me see if I can clear up the Catholic belief in saints a bit. Alright...You want something...to be able to go out saturday night, perhaps. You know that Dad is the ultimate authority on that, but Mom is more likely to let you go. So you ask her, and she talks to Dad about it, and it's more likely to happen. Saints are kinda like that. Or when you're sick, asking a friend to pray for you. It's just that they specialize in certian types of things, like St. Andrew helps finding stuff, and St. Dymphna is especially close with people with mental disorders. Praying to Mary's a lot like that too. Some Catholics basically worship her, which I find to be the pagan influence in the religion, but for the most part she's just respected because she's Jesus' mom. That, and according to Catholic belief, because Jesus couldn't come from someone who sinned, she was born without original sin too, one of only two people ever after Adam and Eve.
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