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 Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 9:27 pm
Kaze Espada The final ice type has fallen! With mamoswine's fall from OU, the OU is void of ice types! Are you serious? eek -goes to check- Edit: Wow you weren't kidding.
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 6:54 pm
Jerzeeboii Despair the Ocean if any body coud help me understaned how to ut a team together or point me in a direvtion that would educate me that would be amazing. all i think i understand is nedding/having a wall and a sweeper. Theres tons of information on Smogon.com and Serebii.net What kind of information are you looking for? I think theres a subforum called Trainer School in here you could check out. 3nodding Mod's should give you useful information as well. It all depends if your willing to ask for the information and if their willing to help. xd Anyway, suggestions from me...make a team of Pokemon you like. 3nodding Think of how that team will do in battle against its weakness. Try to get moves that can cover their weakness and moves that do well against other types. Try them out in battle. There should be an EV training guide in the guild somewhere. 3nodding EV training helps ALOT. Then theres IV's, but I wouldn't worry about those for right now. sweatdrop Anyway, what kind of Pokemon do you like? Maybe I can help. -shrug- yea, i poke around serebii alot and just recently smogon. i've started ev training and im breeding for IV's on gastly now. i think i just got one with either 26 or 31 right now in sp attack. some pokemon i'd want on my team are Gengar reuniclus weavile ferrothorn shuckle tyraniter.... idk T___T
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 9:33 pm
Despair the Ocean yea, i poke around serebii alot and just recently smogon. i've started ev training and im breeding for IV's on gastly now. i think i just got one with either 26 or 31 right now in sp attack. some pokemon i'd want on my team are Gengar reuniclus weavile ferrothorn shuckle tyraniter.... idk T___T Thats actually a pretty nice squad you got there. 3nodding I know Adamant Weavile with Ice shard is pretty nice. Knocks out a lot of my Dragons. crying Tyranitar, I have Dragon Dance on mine. If hes able to do 1-2 DD's it's basically clobbering time LOL. That things a power house and a half man. 3nodding Shuckle and Ferrothorn, so annoying! LOL But good for soaking up damage. 3nodding Gengars is always a good choice. Reunclus is pretty damn strong too. I think you got a solid team here man. Got any idea what kinda moves you want for them? Natures?
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 10:50 pm
Jerzeeboii Kaze Espada The final ice type has fallen! With mamoswine's fall from OU, the OU is void of ice types! Are you serious? eek -goes to check- Edit: Wow you weren't kidding. lol and what about cloyster XD?
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 10:51 pm
stray_cat05 Jerzeeboii Kaze Espada The final ice type has fallen! With mamoswine's fall from OU, the OU is void of ice types! Are you serious? eek -goes to check- Edit: Wow you weren't kidding. lol and what about cloyster XD? Forgot he was ice. LOL. I never used Cloyster, I remember it always just being a water type. xd My mistake. 3nodding
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 10:55 pm
Jerzeeboii stray_cat05 Jerzeeboii Kaze Espada The final ice type has fallen! With mamoswine's fall from OU, the OU is void of ice types! Are you serious? eek -goes to check- Edit: Wow you weren't kidding. lol and what about cloyster XD? Forgot he was ice. LOL. I never used Cloyster, I remember it always just being a water type. xd My mistake. 3nodding dont wory ^^ actualy who made the mistake in the first place was the other dude "KazeEspada" not u so its ok XD
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Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 3:48 am
Lord Shadow IX Jerzeeboii It's ok, you'll get the hang of it. Tiers were made up due to some Pokemon being too powerful in battle. Thus making it unfair. Equaling a lot of people complaining. 3nodding Theres Uber tier, which are the Pokemon that are TOO Powerful for battle. Then theres OU which means Over Used, its name basically says what they are. They are Pokemon who are Over used. No trick to it. Then theres UU I think? Which means Under Used. I forget the order, but I know the lowest tier is NU which is Never Used. So usually when people battle they select a tier in which to battle in. Example I select UU tier, so you'd have to select Pokemon from that tier for our battle. It's just a way to make balance so battles are a bit more enjoyable, rather than you being completely rampaged by a few Mewtwo's. Anyhow, Majority of the Pokemon that were Uber in 4th Gen are now OU in 5th. So OU will definitely have some more intense battles! Or...a lot more crying. -shrugs- Anyhow if you read the information, it's not hard to understand. As of right from #1 Pokemon on that list till 53 I believe are the only Over Used Pokemon. Everything under that is Under Used. It. Is. Not. A. Tier. List. Yet. Look at the numbers next to the name. That is how many times each have been used I believe. The top 53 have a a bigger number then the lower ones and qualify as OU. They have not been sorted yet, see Blaziken and Viciniti. They are just usage statistics. AND NOT A TIER LIST. Well, technically every tier except OU is based off of usage statistics anyways, so this is pretty much a basic tier list. There are still a few more Pokémon that will need to be banned before it becomes relatively balanced, but, for now, this is what we've got.
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Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 7:46 am
stray_cat05 dont wory ^^ actualy who made the mistake in the first place was the other dude "KazeEspada" not u so its ok XD Hmm, you know. Your name looks pretty familiar. confused
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Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 8:57 am
Gamefreak41495 Lord Shadow IX Jerzeeboii It's ok, you'll get the hang of it. Tiers were made up due to some Pokemon being too powerful in battle. Thus making it unfair. Equaling a lot of people complaining. 3nodding Theres Uber tier, which are the Pokemon that are TOO Powerful for battle. Then theres OU which means Over Used, its name basically says what they are. They are Pokemon who are Over used. No trick to it. Then theres UU I think? Which means Under Used. I forget the order, but I know the lowest tier is NU which is Never Used. So usually when people battle they select a tier in which to battle in. Example I select UU tier, so you'd have to select Pokemon from that tier for our battle. It's just a way to make balance so battles are a bit more enjoyable, rather than you being completely rampaged by a few Mewtwo's. Anyhow, Majority of the Pokemon that were Uber in 4th Gen are now OU in 5th. So OU will definitely have some more intense battles! Or...a lot more crying. -shrugs- Anyhow if you read the information, it's not hard to understand. As of right from #1 Pokemon on that list till 53 I believe are the only Over Used Pokemon. Everything under that is Under Used. It. Is. Not. A. Tier. List. Yet. Look at the numbers next to the name. That is how many times each have been used I believe. The top 53 have a a bigger number then the lower ones and qualify as OU. They have not been sorted yet, see Blaziken and Viciniti. They are just usage statistics. AND NOT A TIER LIST. Well, technically every tier except OU is based off of usage statistics anyways, so this is pretty much a basic tier list. There are still a few more Pokémon that will need to be banned before it becomes relatively balanced, but, for now, this is what we've got. No it's not. The tiers are Uber-is not a banlist. OU-Overused. (BL) -not actual tier, but serves as a line between OU and UU. UU-UnderUsed NFE-Not Fully Evolved (NFC) -Not For Combat. Not a real tier but should be.
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Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 9:32 pm
Jerzeeboii stray_cat05 dont wory ^^ actualy who made the mistake in the first place was the other dude "KazeEspada" not u so its ok XD Hmm, you know. Your name looks pretty familiar. confused may be because i am in the pwf too ^w^
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Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 9:54 pm
stray_cat05 may be because i am in the pwf too ^w^ Well that answers that. xd
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Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 3:48 am
Lord Shadow IX Gamefreak41495 Lord Shadow IX Jerzeeboii It's ok, you'll get the hang of it. Tiers were made up due to some Pokemon being too powerful in battle. Thus making it unfair. Equaling a lot of people complaining. 3nodding Theres Uber tier, which are the Pokemon that are TOO Powerful for battle. Then theres OU which means Over Used, its name basically says what they are. They are Pokemon who are Over used. No trick to it. Then theres UU I think? Which means Under Used. I forget the order, but I know the lowest tier is NU which is Never Used. So usually when people battle they select a tier in which to battle in. Example I select UU tier, so you'd have to select Pokemon from that tier for our battle. It's just a way to make balance so battles are a bit more enjoyable, rather than you being completely rampaged by a few Mewtwo's. Anyhow, Majority of the Pokemon that were Uber in 4th Gen are now OU in 5th. So OU will definitely have some more intense battles! Or...a lot more crying. -shrugs- Anyhow if you read the information, it's not hard to understand. As of right from #1 Pokemon on that list till 53 I believe are the only Over Used Pokemon. Everything under that is Under Used. It. Is. Not. A. Tier. List. Yet. Look at the numbers next to the name. That is how many times each have been used I believe. The top 53 have a a bigger number then the lower ones and qualify as OU. They have not been sorted yet, see Blaziken and Viciniti. They are just usage statistics. AND NOT A TIER LIST. Well, technically every tier except OU is based off of usage statistics anyways, so this is pretty much a basic tier list. There are still a few more Pokémon that will need to be banned before it becomes relatively balanced, but, for now, this is what we've got. No it's not. The tiers are Uber-is not a banlist. OU-Overused. (BL) -not actual tier, but serves as a line between OU and UU. UU-UnderUsed NFE-Not Fully Evolved (NFC) -Not For Combat. Not a real tier but should be. Woops, in my previous post I meant to say "every tier except Ubers is based off of usage statistics." Anyway, how exactly is Uber not effectively a banlist? If your reason is that it is its own tier and has a semi-balanced metagame, then sure. I would understand, considering I myself love the Uber metagame. However, the only Pokémon in there are those deemed too unbalancing for standard OU play. BL is similar in regards to the fact that it consists of Pokémon that aren't used enough to be OU but are too powerful to be made UU. OU, UU, and NU are all based off of usage statistics. If I remember correctly, fourth gen's OU tier consisted of Pokémon that were used on one in twenty teams or more. I don't know what the rates were for UU and NU, however.
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Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 9:07 am
Gamefreak41495 Lord Shadow IX Gamefreak41495 Lord Shadow IX Jerzeeboii It's ok, you'll get the hang of it. Tiers were made up due to some Pokemon being too powerful in battle. Thus making it unfair. Equaling a lot of people complaining. 3nodding Theres Uber tier, which are the Pokemon that are TOO Powerful for battle. Then theres OU which means Over Used, its name basically says what they are. They are Pokemon who are Over used. No trick to it. Then theres UU I think? Which means Under Used. I forget the order, but I know the lowest tier is NU which is Never Used. So usually when people battle they select a tier in which to battle in. Example I select UU tier, so you'd have to select Pokemon from that tier for our battle. It's just a way to make balance so battles are a bit more enjoyable, rather than you being completely rampaged by a few Mewtwo's. Anyhow, Majority of the Pokemon that were Uber in 4th Gen are now OU in 5th. So OU will definitely have some more intense battles! Or...a lot more crying. -shrugs- Anyhow if you read the information, it's not hard to understand. As of right from #1 Pokemon on that list till 53 I believe are the only Over Used Pokemon. Everything under that is Under Used. It. Is. Not. A. Tier. List. Yet. Look at the numbers next to the name. That is how many times each have been used I believe. The top 53 have a a bigger number then the lower ones and qualify as OU. They have not been sorted yet, see Blaziken and Viciniti. They are just usage statistics. AND NOT A TIER LIST. Well, technically every tier except OU is based off of usage statistics anyways, so this is pretty much a basic tier list. There are still a few more Pokémon that will need to be banned before it becomes relatively balanced, but, for now, this is what we've got. No it's not. The tiers are Uber-is not a banlist. OU-Overused. (BL) -not actual tier, but serves as a line between OU and UU. UU-UnderUsed NFE-Not Fully Evolved (NFC) -Not For Combat. Not a real tier but should be. Woops, in my previous post I meant to say "every tier except Ubers is based off of usage statistics." Anyway, how exactly is Uber not effectively a banlist? If your reason is that it is its own tier and has a semi-balanced metagame, then sure. I would understand, considering I myself love the Uber metagame. However, the only Pokémon in there are those deemed too unbalancing for standard OU play. BL is similar in regards to the fact that it consists of Pokémon that aren't used enough to be OU but are too powerful to be made UU. OU, UU, and NU are all based off of usage statistics. If I remember correctly, fourth gen's OU tier consisted of Pokémon that were used on one in twenty teams or more. I don't know what the rates were for UU and NU, however. Smogon might be banning a thing from uber now. OU and UU are pretty much the usage statistics tweaked a bit, Viniciti and Mew are currently UU while Venasaur/Swampwert is OU.
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Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 9:29 am
Despair the Ocean Jerzeeboii Despair the Ocean if any body coud help me understaned how to ut a team together or point me in a direvtion that would educate me that would be amazing. all i think i understand is nedding/having a wall and a sweeper. Theres tons of information on Smogon.com and Serebii.net What kind of information are you looking for? I think theres a subforum called Trainer School in here you could check out. 3nodding Mod's should give you useful information as well. It all depends if your willing to ask for the information and if their willing to help. xd Anyway, suggestions from me...make a team of Pokemon you like. 3nodding Think of how that team will do in battle against its weakness. Try to get moves that can cover their weakness and moves that do well against other types. Try them out in battle. There should be an EV training guide in the guild somewhere. 3nodding EV training helps ALOT. Then theres IV's, but I wouldn't worry about those for right now. sweatdrop Anyway, what kind of Pokemon do you like? Maybe I can help. -shrug- yea, i poke around serebii alot and just recently smogon. i've started ev training and im breeding for IV's on gastly now. i think i just got one with either 26 or 31 right now in sp attack. some pokemon i'd want on my team are Gengar reuniclus weavile ferrothorn shuckle tyraniter.... idk T___T
UGGGGGGHHH! Why does everybody use this thing? I mean, it was in the top 10 most used. (8, to be exact) I seriously don't get what it even does. Can someone explain?
And, I know something else that should get banned. STRAY_CAT05! He's too pro! Jk, how ya doing man?
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Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 5:57 pm
Lord Shadow IX Gamefreak41495 Lord Shadow IX Gamefreak41495 Lord Shadow IX Jerzeeboii It's ok, you'll get the hang of it. Tiers were made up due to some Pokemon being too powerful in battle. Thus making it unfair. Equaling a lot of people complaining. 3nodding Theres Uber tier, which are the Pokemon that are TOO Powerful for battle. Then theres OU which means Over Used, its name basically says what they are. They are Pokemon who are Over used. No trick to it. Then theres UU I think? Which means Under Used. I forget the order, but I know the lowest tier is NU which is Never Used. So usually when people battle they select a tier in which to battle in. Example I select UU tier, so you'd have to select Pokemon from that tier for our battle. It's just a way to make balance so battles are a bit more enjoyable, rather than you being completely rampaged by a few Mewtwo's. Anyhow, Majority of the Pokemon that were Uber in 4th Gen are now OU in 5th. So OU will definitely have some more intense battles! Or...a lot more crying. -shrugs- Anyhow if you read the information, it's not hard to understand. As of right from #1 Pokemon on that list till 53 I believe are the only Over Used Pokemon. Everything under that is Under Used. It. Is. Not. A. Tier. List. Yet. Look at the numbers next to the name. That is how many times each have been used I believe. The top 53 have a a bigger number then the lower ones and qualify as OU. They have not been sorted yet, see Blaziken and Viciniti. They are just usage statistics. AND NOT A TIER LIST. Well, technically every tier except OU is based off of usage statistics anyways, so this is pretty much a basic tier list. There are still a few more Pokémon that will need to be banned before it becomes relatively balanced, but, for now, this is what we've got. No it's not. The tiers are Uber-is not a banlist. OU-Overused. (BL) -not actual tier, but serves as a line between OU and UU. UU-UnderUsed NFE-Not Fully Evolved (NFC) -Not For Combat. Not a real tier but should be. Woops, in my previous post I meant to say "every tier except Ubers is based off of usage statistics." Anyway, how exactly is Uber not effectively a banlist? If your reason is that it is its own tier and has a semi-balanced metagame, then sure. I would understand, considering I myself love the Uber metagame. However, the only Pokémon in there are those deemed too unbalancing for standard OU play. BL is similar in regards to the fact that it consists of Pokémon that aren't used enough to be OU but are too powerful to be made UU. OU, UU, and NU are all based off of usage statistics. If I remember correctly, fourth gen's OU tier consisted of Pokémon that were used on one in twenty teams or more. I don't know what the rates were for UU and NU, however. Smogon might be banning a thing from uber now. OU and UU are pretty much the usage statistics tweaked a bit, Viniciti and Mew are currently UU while Venasaur/Swampwert is OU. If I catch your meaning correctly, do you mean they might be considering something too unbalanced for the tier made up of things that are too unbalanced? That is indeed a frightening thought. If so, what Pokémon are they considering? Arceus? @Arch: Reuniclus is completely fantastic. Magic Guard, great bulk, high SpAtk, and low speed (perfect for Trick Room) make it an amazing tank. I haven't really gotten into the fifth gen competitive scene yet, but from what I saw in early analyses, that is probably why it's so highly used.
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