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and what about the other stuff i said?

like how thought affects water they found out. so even if i did make a mistake xd it didnt disprove it because theres still
1. a ton of water in humans
2. thought and light and radiation and music etc affects [at least] water
3. [at least] light affects dna

even mood affects health for instance, depressed people being more prone for heart disease and such, alterign dna might be a bit of a stretch from altering status of cells but i think the thought can cause changes in our dna to be positive more so than negative, because both types of mutations can occur.

and biokinesis and magic and other stuff isnt disproven, and i think magic to a degree is proven still.

i read a book on it, they have water crystal photoes of unhealthy water then they prayed for the water then got good photoes from it afterwards, and they spent time at a lake and tried to improve the lake by praying or singing and etc then the lake had less toxins in it or some crap, sure they could have secretly added something to it i suppose to clear it up. they had different photoes for different words as well, and with any science there could be bias involved i suppose though.

and this reminds me of something else i read how there was a project done in america somewhere and they had a bunch of people praying for peace or something and violence rates went down a bit of percent in the area or something.

and how peoples moods affect their health and stuff. i think its sorta connected like that.

biokinesis would be alot harder i imagine, since monks and yogis havent done much that could be attributed to that, especially since to be a real furry would require alot more changes than changeing body temperature or something, which they can change their body temp and some other stuff.

but i dont think they would want to change their being anyways so even if they could they wouldnt. so thisd require too much practical practice anyways XD like itd take such a long time itd almost not be worth it unless people find out how to be immortal first. perhaps.

but also theres the way i think the positiveness could attract better genetic mutations, though youd have to be very brainwashed to do so perhaps, but then i suppose if you could change it by mind over matter then itd occur instead of aging perhaps, but then you would have other issues involved with yur dna eventually anyways, but we all die someday anyways.

so i figure if praying for peace works for example, then couldnt other things similarly be possible. but even light and every environmental influence would make it harder or easier to get that done, so you would probably have to be better at meditation than a monk or yogi and live in an environment like a furry would be in near people acting like furries as well.

so i suppose it would be retardedly impractical, but still i think mind over matter is useful for this, and i dont think anyone tried this before anyways. And i read about how some peopel changed eye color or could grow an inch taller or so when trying things like biokinesis, or to improve physical performance in sport/activities. So i think if eye color could change, assuming at least one of them was honest, then i think other larger changes could occur as well.

My sentiments exactly.
I am tired of this argument.
I don't want to keep on going and going. It's like trying to turn a christian athiest or vice versa. They have their own completely different logic systems that cannot be swayed using the other's. Like trying to explain something in an undead language.