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 Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 8:02 pm
Aakosir Shadows-shine Aakosir Artto Aakosir But condoms and other forms of BC do not prevent STD's. There really is nothing that can prevent the transfer, except being safe. But really... how can you be safe with someone that already has something Condoms are highly effective at preventing the transfer of certain STD's (including HIV). According to my doctor, condems are effective in preventing the spreading of those STDs, but doctors usually will advise you not to have sex during the time of the infection at least until it's cleared up and treated. they work like 65% of the time... only half that for HIV.
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Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 11:57 pm
I've been on the pill for almost 5 years now.
Those risks are very unlikely, and they're only relevant to some women. For healthy non-smokers under 30, the chance of you getting a clot is very, very slim. Pills don't magically cause death, and if you're healthy and live a healthy lifestyle, the odds of having complications are slim... With or without the pill.
WIth my pill I get my period every month though, I'm not a fan of that type you've mentioned.
Where I live the pill is subsidized so they're not making any money by me getting them, they're actually losing it. So I don't believe they're making up lies about the pill being bad for you to make profit.
I've never had any problems associated with it, but every woman gets a different reaction and different pills will have different side effects for different women.
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Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 8:03 am
Aoksir The ones that require skin on skin contact are not prevented I don't know of any STD that transmits by skin on skin contact. Chieftain Twilight they work like 65% of the time... only half that for HIV. Where the hell did you get that from?? Abstinence only class?
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Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 8:11 am
Artto Chieftain Twilight they work like 65% of the time... only half that for HIV. Where the hell did you get that from?? Abstinence only class? I can't remember which ones, I know HIV is one of them though, but there are certain STDs where the pathogen is smaller than the pores in a condom. When you're going through an active infection, there's much, much more pathogens available than while a person is not actively infected like Herpes, so even with a condom the chance is much higher to contract a disease, although not as high as just plain not wearing one. It's a matter then of being smart about how you about sex if your partner has a disease. Of course I don't have exact percentages either.
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Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 11:07 am
Lateralus es Helica I can't remember which ones, I know HIV is one of them though, but there are certain STDs where the pathogen is smaller than the pores in a condom. When you're going through an active infection, there's much, much more pathogens available than while a person is not actively infected like Herpes, so even with a condom the chance is much higher to contract a disease, although not as high as just plain not wearing one. About a minute on google: Quote: Some people claim that condoms have tiny pores or holes in them through which sexually transmitted diseases such as HIV can pass. This is not true. Many studies show that condoms do not have pores big enough for HIV to travel through. Most latex condoms have walls that are approximately .05 mm thick – a virus such as HIV would therefore have to pass through a barrier around 500 times thicker than itself to reach the outside. Lateralus es Helica It's a matter then of being smart about how you about sex if your partner has a disease. Of course I don't have exact percentages either. With that I agree.
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Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 12:09 pm
Aakosir Shadows-shine Aakosir Artto Aakosir But condoms and other forms of BC do not prevent STD's. There really is nothing that can prevent the transfer, except being safe. But really... how can you be safe with someone that already has something Condoms are highly effective at preventing the transfer of certain STD's (including HIV). According to my doctor, condems are effective in preventing the spreading of those STDs, but doctors usually will advise you not to have sex during the time of the infection at least until it's cleared up and treated. I've never heard of STDs passing from skin to skin contact. They usually have to be passed through bodily fluids coming into contact with the other people's bodily fluids.
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Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 12:10 pm
Lateralus es Helica Artto Chieftain Twilight they work like 65% of the time... only half that for HIV. Where the hell did you get that from?? Abstinence only class? I can't remember which ones, I know HIV is one of them though, but there are certain STDs where the pathogen is smaller than the pores in a condom. When you're going through an active infection, there's much, much more pathogens available than while a person is not actively infected like Herpes, so even with a condom the chance is much higher to contract a disease, although not as high as just plain not wearing one. It's a matter then of being smart about how you about sex if your partner has a disease. Of course I don't have exact percentages either. Pores in a condem? Never heard of that.
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Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 12:56 pm
Shadows-shine Lateralus es Helica Artto Chieftain Twilight they work like 65% of the time... only half that for HIV. Where the hell did you get that from?? Abstinence only class? I can't remember which ones, I know HIV is one of them though, but there are certain STDs where the pathogen is smaller than the pores in a condom. When you're going through an active infection, there's much, much more pathogens available than while a person is not actively infected like Herpes, so even with a condom the chance is much higher to contract a disease, although not as high as just plain not wearing one. It's a matter then of being smart about how you about sex if your partner has a disease. Of course I don't have exact percentages either. Pores in a condem? Never heard of that.
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Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 12:58 pm
Aakosir Maybe not "pores". But the "natural" holes in any material. Like the bonds that hold plastic together. Not really sure, but that is what I took it as. Again, not permeable to viruses.
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Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 1:05 pm
Artto Aoksir The ones that require skin on skin contact are not prevented I don't know of any STD that transmits by skin on skin contact.
Here is another site that supports my theory.
Gonerrhea can be spread by touch. Found that here. I have heard that this is why women who have it, most of the time, have C section deliveries.
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Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 1:21 pm
Well with those STDs the doctors will usually advise patients not to have sexual contact during active out breaks of Goneherrea and Herpes. But after the outbreaks have passed, they advise sex with a condem.
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Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 2:03 pm
Aakosir Artto Aoksir The ones that require skin on skin contact are not prevented I don't know of any STD that transmits by skin on skin contact.
Here is another site that supports my theory.
Gonerrhea can be spread by touch. Found that here. I have heard that this is why women who have it, most of the time, have C section deliveries.I think these are a bit misleading. It's not skin on skin. It's lesion to mucus membrane (like the mouth, v****a or p***s) or lesion to wound. This is because the very function of the skin is to protect the body against pathogens. It is "by touch", of course, but it's not skin on skin. It's not like if you touch a sore you'll get it. You'll get it if you touch a sore with your mouth for example - which isn't exactly skin. And that's where condoms come in. They create a barrier between an infected part and your mucus membrane. Of course, that doesn't work in the case of herpes, where you can get it from kissing.
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Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 7:10 pm
Artto Aoksir The ones that require skin on skin contact are not prevented I don't know of any STD that transmits by skin on skin contact. Chieftain Twilight they work like 65% of the time... only half that for HIV. Where the hell did you get that from?? Abstinence only class? sadly, yes. xp I livein Florida, I take what I can get, and try to find the rest out on my own (since no one else will tell me).
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Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 7:15 pm
Artto Aakosir Artto Aoksir The ones that require skin on skin contact are not prevented I don't know of any STD that transmits by skin on skin contact.
Here is another site that supports my theory.
Gonerrhea can be spread by touch. Found that here. I have heard that this is why women who have it, most of the time, have C section deliveries.I think these are a bit misleading. It's not skin on skin. It's lesion to mucus membrane (like the mouth, v****a or p***s) or lesion to wound. This is because the very function of the skin is to protect the body against pathogens. It is "by touch", of course, but it's not skin on skin. It's not like if you touch a sore you'll get it. You'll get it if you touch a sore with your mouth for example - which isn't exactly skin. And that's where condoms come in. They create a barrier between an infected part and your mucus membrane. Of course, that doesn't work in the case of herpes, where you can get it from kissing. enough folks I know personally have had issues ranging from unplanned pregnancies to the spread of diseases with Condoms on top of BC on top of the Morning After Pill. so I know for a fact that they are not reliable enough to be worthe the irritation of wearing during Sex. except for a**l Sex, which I'm not even fond of anyway. ninja note: Gay guys are far more likely to be grouchy about condoms than Straight ones. stare
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Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 4:28 am
Chieftain Twilight so I know for a fact that they are not reliable enough to be worthe the irritation of wearing during Sex. This is why I hate these condom conspiracy theories. You're implying that because they're not 100% reliable people shouldn't even bother. And this type of mindset is what spreads all these diseases and causes unwanted pregnancies. P.S.: The main cause of condoms failing is improper use. And it's actually counted in the statistics describing reliability.
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