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 Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 10:48 am
Pheonix Reaper Jesus said to him, "Do you believe because you see me? How happy are those who believe without seeing me!" John 20:29
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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 10:49 am
Obscurus occhi-d-oro Sorgelig Alene We all have faith in something, I literally walk in it because I cannot prove induction, but why should anyone praise faith?? Faith is sold to people by people who can't justify their product, if they could it would be called reason and that is truly praiseworthy. To have faith in reason is only a start and the 'faith' part is not what is admirable, it is when you overcome faith that you have done something. Anyone can say you need faith to believe in any cause they want to put on you. For those who hold to faith as a goal: I would ask why not have faith in some other religion? Their answer would be their REASON and conviction of reason over faith. I hope to find a reason for induction, so I no longer have to walk in faith that world will hold me up. What do you have Faith in? I have faith in myself above all else because only I have the power to loose absolute faith in myself. I choose what and when to have faith in what or why. Nobody has the right to tell me what to have faith in or when to choose to have faith or when to not or when to loose it or cut my threads. So I have faith in myself for I am my own form of faith. "Always faithful" Semper Fidelis I have that tattooed across my upper back. Any relation to the US Marine Corps or do you just like the motto? But why must everyone ask me this can I not have some ancient language on my skin without a mention of the marines? They just choose the motto. No offenses.
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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 8:33 pm
Merkrow Obscurus occhi-d-oro Sorgelig Alene We all have faith in something, I literally walk in it because I cannot prove induction, but why should anyone praise faith?? Faith is sold to people by people who can't justify their product, if they could it would be called reason and that is truly praiseworthy. To have faith in reason is only a start and the 'faith' part is not what is admirable, it is when you overcome faith that you have done something. Anyone can say you need faith to believe in any cause they want to put on you. For those who hold to faith as a goal: I would ask why not have faith in some other religion? Their answer would be their REASON and conviction of reason over faith. I hope to find a reason for induction, so I no longer have to walk in faith that world will hold me up. What do you have Faith in? I have faith in myself above all else because only I have the power to loose absolute faith in myself. I choose what and when to have faith in what or why. Nobody has the right to tell me what to have faith in or when to choose to have faith or when to not or when to loose it or cut my threads. So I have faith in myself for I am my own form of faith. "Always faithful" Semper Fidelis I have that tattooed across my upper back. Any relation to the US Marine Corps or do you just like the motto? But why must everyone ask me this can I not have some ancient language on my skin without a mention of the marines? They just choose the motto. No offenses. I was just wondering if you just liked the phrase. Most of the time when people have anything with "Semper Fidelis" on it, it's because they are or have been associated with the US Marine Corps. I was just curious. I think it's cool that your usage actually has no relation to the Marines.
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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 4:31 pm
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Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 10:15 am
" The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been two-hundred years. These nations have progressed through this sequence: From bondage to spiritual faith; from spiritual faith to great courage; from great courage to liberty; from liberty to abundance; from abundance to selfishness; from selfishness to complacency; from complacency to apathy; from apathy to dependence; from dependence back again to bondage." And if you want to find out about the far-reaching paganism incorporating in God-centralized religions... fun stuff
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Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 12:14 pm
I have faith in non-existence
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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 3:13 am
i believe that one should only have faith in themselves.
agreed, that people have "faith" in god and religions only because they have no other explanation for anything. however, i do think that for some people, some who do not think so well maybe, faith in a religion is good because it encourages alot of people to do good things, ex. getting off drugs, and improve their lives. though it is false hope, its something that canmake them feel more useful, successful, and overall happier.
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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 6:40 am
I have no faith in anything, I don't need something to lean on to exist in this hard world.
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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 6:56 am
xxEverBluexx I have faith in God. I don't see why Faith shouldn't be admired, because when I start to doubt, it feels like my world is losing color: it's depressing. I think people without faith have no idea what they're missing. As for science and logic, what I'm leaning right now is they aren't the same, and they don't necessarily go hand in hand. Logic doesn't have to be true, it's just a pattern. Science works to invalidate things: it's not about finding truth with science, but just testing to see if observations are correct over and over. It's our best method of predicting results. We practically worship these two things in society, when they're just tools as fallible as anything else. I grew up in a Christian household, I know the lies I'm missing out on. Religion was invented by men who wanted people to follow what they say, thats why they commonly do not allow/prohibit things people enjoy, it's easier to control a man without pleasure or happiness from any other source. As for teaching children about the bible, nothing more then sick brainwashing, at that age children are an information sponge, what they hear then will make them who they are in the future, people cannot truly change in the same way they can so easily be trained like a dog. People willing to believe blindly are holding back mankind and should be pruned like diseased limbs on a tree. Why do you believe? Because a book written by a group of men 2000 years ago says so? Because your mummy and daddy say so? Because a weird man who probably molests little boys in white robe in a church of cultish worship says so? And yes. Christianity is a cult, many people would kill themselves if the 'Holy' pope said so, a cult is characterised by a group of people following someone who is supposedly a chosen one or medium to a god, sounds a bit like the Pope...
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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 7:41 am
Official Sasuke Uchiha I have no faith in anything, I don't need something to lean on to exist in this hard world.
If a person says they love you, but accidentally hurt you you have a choice to believe whether they did it on purpose or not and in order to make that decision you must have some kind of faith in your conviction.
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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 9:48 am
Naynram Ukir Official Sasuke Uchiha I have no faith in anything, I don't need something to lean on to exist in this hard world.
If a person says they love you, but accidentally hurt you you have a choice to believe whether they did it on purpose or not and in order to make that decision you must have some kind of faith in your conviction.
Can you consider yourself sane if you think someone told you they loved you a no one was around?
I've never heard that happening, and I most likely never will.
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Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 5:08 am
Official Sasuke Uchiha xxEverBluexx I have faith in God. I don't see why Faith shouldn't be admired, because when I start to doubt, it feels like my world is losing color: it's depressing. I think people without faith have no idea what they're missing. As for science and logic, what I'm leaning right now is they aren't the same, and they don't necessarily go hand in hand. Logic doesn't have to be true, it's just a pattern. Science works to invalidate things: it's not about finding truth with science, but just testing to see if observations are correct over and over. It's our best method of predicting results. We practically worship these two things in society, when they're just tools as fallible as anything else. I grew up in a Christian household, I know the lies I'm missing out on. Religion was invented by men who wanted people to follow what they say, thats why they commonly do not allow/prohibit things people enjoy, it's easier to control a man without pleasure or happiness from any other source. Wait, what? It's easier to control someone when they aren't getting something they want? Have you ever tried training a dog that way, let alone a human being? Let me save you the trouble, it doesn't work. There has to be rewards in there in order to provide an incentive to comply, otherwise all you get is completely disobedience. Quote: As for teaching children about the bible, nothing more then sick brainwashing, at that age children are an information sponge, what they hear then will make them who they are in the future, people cannot truly change in the same way they can so easily be trained like a dog. People willing to believe blindly are holding back mankind and should be pruned like diseased limbs on a tree. Why do you believe? Because a book written by a group of men 2000 years ago says so? Because your mummy and daddy say so? Teaching a kid something doesn't mean that kid will believe it. Your mum and dad didn't say things at you until you obeyed, there was something real they had to back it up with. In the case of christianity, the real thing happens to be a relationship with Christ. I agree with you though, I don't like people who agree to believe in something blindly. They should at least know why they believe instead of accepting to be spoon fed in church every sunday. Why do I believe? There are a multitude of reasons. The simplest one? Because I know my faith is as real as talking to my parents this morning at breakfast was real. Not because they told me to believe. if anyone tells me to believe this movie I've never seen was great, I go and look into it and come to my own conclusion. This relationship with Christ is the best thing that ever happened to me, not because I had someone else tell me about him, but because I went and experienced it myself. Quote: And yes. Christianity is a cult, many people would kill themselves if the 'Holy' pope said so, a cult is characterised by a group of people following someone who is supposedly a chosen one or medium to a god, sounds a bit like the Pope... A cult is defined as: a particular system of religious worship, especially with reference to its rites and ceremonies. 2. an instance of great veneration of a person, ideal, or thing, especially as manifested by a body of admirers. So really, America is a cult, and every religion is a cult. America as a body gives great veneration to an ideal or thing (namely freedom...). Christianity is not a cult in the sense that Scientology, Raelism, and the Branch Davidian cults are. Nor is it a religion. It is a relationship. Characterizing an entire belief off of the actions of a select few is extremely bigoted, and highly contemptible. There are a bunch of muslims I know who abhor the actions of those who claimed to work in the interests of their faith when they attacked america all those years ago. There are christians I know (I am one of them) that completely detest and refuse to associate with the Westboro baptist church for acting in the way they have, especially since it is contrary to everything my God teaches.
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Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 6:44 am
Official Sasuke Uchiha xxEverBluexx I have faith in God. I don't see why Faith shouldn't be admired, because when I start to doubt, it feels like my world is losing color: it's depressing. I think people without faith have no idea what they're missing. As for science and logic, what I'm leaning right now is they aren't the same, and they don't necessarily go hand in hand. Logic doesn't have to be true, it's just a pattern. Science works to invalidate things: it's not about finding truth with science, but just testing to see if observations are correct over and over. It's our best method of predicting results. We practically worship these two things in society, when they're just tools as fallible as anything else. I grew up in a Christian household, I know the lies I'm missing out on. Religion was invented by men who wanted people to follow what they say, thats why they commonly do not allow/prohibit things people enjoy, it's easier to control a man without pleasure or happiness from any other source. As for teaching children about the bible, nothing more then sick brainwashing, at that age children are an information sponge, what they hear then will make them who they are in the future, people cannot truly change in the same way they can so easily be trained like a dog. People willing to believe blindly are holding back mankind and should be pruned like diseased limbs on a tree. Why do you believe? Because a book written by a group of men 2000 years ago says so? Because your mummy and daddy say so? Because a weird man who probably molests little boys in white robe in a church of cultish worship says so? And yes. Christianity is a cult, many people would kill themselves if the 'Holy' pope said so, a cult is characterised by a group of people following someone who is supposedly a chosen one or medium to a god, sounds a bit like the Pope... Sounds like you grew up in a Church going house hold actually. And you're half way an idiot for picking out the bad things exclusively. Yeah, Priests have molested kids before, but more actually care about the kids. In our society, barring any spiritual belief from the equation, people molest kids too, probably more so than any spiritual believer. That is a personal choice, not derived - most the time anyways - from being withheld from sex by choice. Regardless of a book being written 2000 years ago, people love the teachings wrought within it. Why? Because it fits the common ways of life: loving, teaching, sharing, etc. Official Sasuke Uchiha I have no faith in anything, I don't need something to lean on to exist in this hard world. How many cases of kids being held down and the bible shoved down their throats do you know of by the way? I know of none. Sure, call it brainwashing, but truth be told, anything we're told can fit that category. Faith is what divides it from true to false and it's all based on personal deduction. A little example that you're a part of: So a girl starts a Guild detailing the not-so-wonderous dealings of our world Societies and makes claims weighing against them, thus recruiting people for the cause, without any proof that anything is actually going on. Has anyone ever stepped out of this supposed NWO and confirmed it? Probably not and if they had, they probably were met with much criticism. Point is: the fact that you're here spewing insults towards religion without a fair argument, but you're a member of a Guild whose purpose it to spread what we believe is helpful knowledge is really no different than brainwash or a cult, is hypocritical at best. The difference is, we have faith in what is said, so it makes it real. Just like a Christian believes in God. You obviously have faith, or at least a modicum of curiosity, in what's talked about 'round the Guild. There is no point, no reason, and nothing to gain by insulting a Religion that is well loved by others just to start a debate to make yourself look intelligent, a hardass, or right. Is it necessary to pick out someones beliefs just because they don't sit well with you? Makes you very ******** similar to the Crusaders.
I meant no harm towards TrutherMei or the Guild, or anything or anyone for that matter. I just used it as the nearest example. But you can't deny that in a realistic sense, it's true. wink
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Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:22 am
I have faith in the fact that when there is a person driving on the opposite side of the road, that they don't turn into my lane and kill my a**.
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Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:25 am
Sohisohi I have faith in the fact that when there is a person driving on the opposite side of the road, that they don't turn into my lane and kill my a**. Hah, I didn't drive for the longest time due to my imagination and that exact situation. I'm over it now.
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