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 Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 12:29 am
Yeah, that's the big problem. They can't decide if it's one or the other...
I was debating with a friend at work today (I was working, he was a customer). He basically said he was Pro-Life, but didn't think it was possible to change the laws. Unfortunately, I had to finish up closing before I could explain my full point, but... Oh well. Maybe next time.
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Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 12:45 am
it's actually a daunting task. nearly impossible I think. unless society 180s overnight. most guys I know are prochoice. I've decided this is the only way they can get sex. If they speak out for women's rights even when said rights limit their own, they'll attract more women, get more action, and won't have to worry about child support.
That would definitely explain why most unmarried guys I know are prochoice and I think all married guys I know are prolife. Or maybe it's just that when you have children, you realize that's a life inside. Or maybe people grow up? lol jk. no, I'm not. I'm quite serious. Eh, well, disney world's produced one provigil-energized disney child. whose dog is casting her an evil eye and going, "BED. NOW. 330 AM. NOW!"
glancing over my posts from this evening, I must say, either provigil works really, really well, or birth control is really, really bad at controlling PMS.
night y'all.
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Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 12:57 am
Good advice your dog is giving you. 3nodding I think I'll follow it as well...
'Night!
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Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 1:33 am
Why is it that I just wasted all that time explaining why the bible isn't just a myth some crackpot threw together?
Why is it I absorbed all that with my teacher telling me over and over, no, no, see, this war is wrong. This...president....is just wrong. Look here. in the bible. see? SEEE?
"Let's go look in judges. After that let's try some nice refreshing adventures with David. I'm sure there were no wars then."
"That's the old testament. it doesn't count. ONly Jews use it."
"Jesus was a Jew...he based his teaching off of a lot of what's in this book."
"Where is Jesus ever condoning violence hmm??"
"Turned the tables in the temple."
Yeah, it's hard being a religion teacher, expecting to get nice lumps of putty for students, and wind up with someone whose last teacher actually did more than, "Jesus loves you, if you sin you burn in hell." He was so glad to get rid of me.
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Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 9:34 am
Well the thing is, it can be unhealthy for a dead baby to be kept inside. See usually the body will do a natural abortion, but if not it's seriously better to do it anyways, well for the mothers sake.
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Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 11:20 am
original godsmack Well the thing is, it can be unhealthy for a dead baby to be kept inside. See usually the body will do a natural abortion, but if not it's seriously better to do it anyways, well for the mothers sake. I don't think any of us are talking about keeping an already dead baby in there, that abviously has health issues and such. We are talking about when the baby -will most likely- die after birth. Once the baby is dead, I don't see how anyone but a religious fanatic could say "You've got to keep it in."
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Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 6:09 pm
The point of prolife is to get the baby out alive, if there's the slimmest chance for life. if the baby dies inside, there's no way to help the baby and it'd be detrimental to the mother's health. If there is a possibility it can live but she aborts, she may later regret that decision....especially if a month afterwards, a cure comes out for whatever was making the baby in danger of dying. If however she carries it and gives birth and it dies anyway, she at least knows she did everything in her power to give it life.
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Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 4:10 pm
the only excuse is if the mother is going to die 3nodding
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Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 4:08 am
I'd completely forgotten about this topic. But I don't know, if the baby is definitely going to die, I'm not sure where I stand. On the one hand, parents with terminally ill children can't just say "Okay, give them the injection, I can't handle this," but on the other, they can say "Cut off the life support." So that's one of those things I'm in flux about right now.
As a sidenote, xd I was such a little dork/brat. That's awesome. I love reading my posts from when I was new to posting on message boards because I still used lol and jk and ranted, and I was borderline trollish, not to mention new and ignorant in this subject.
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Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 4:59 pm
2.179mily I can't understand it.... I've heard people say that if a baby is going to die anyways might as well abort it...... but if it's supposedly going to die one way or another why don't they just go through w/ the birth? That way it's not them killing the baby... it's God.. or nature.... and what if there is some merical or twist in nature and the baby survives? They would have never known because they would have already killed the child... And please... I don't want to here the whole "The mother shouldn't have to suffer by carrying the baby." because 9 months can't compair to an entire life time.... and if she doesn't want to go through the pain of birth give her meds! Having an abortion is just as painful physically and even emotionally (subconsously women suffer after an abortion). Wow, old thread I'm guessing it's because they don't want it to suffer or watch it suffer and not be able to help it. Some people have test done and find out something is seriously wrong. I think it depends on the problem, the survival rate, and how it would effect it if and when born. The woman/ family would would probably suffer emotionally either way in cases like these. They didn't ask for things like that to happen (for all we know, the baby could of been planned but didn't think the unborn child would have some serious illness-meds won't help the her hurt anyless emotionally). Some cases like if the woman gave birth and watched them die, it might make it even harder for them. There are some cases I find it ok or understandable, and that is serious health problem of either the mother or fetus. This got to be a hard and difficult thing to go through and any choice could cause pain.
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