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PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 9:26 am


sex.drugs.and.rock
chingyblingy
i want to be an artist but i dnt wana be a sell out and make art for money id rather have pride and dignity then be a sleezy sell out duce lol and idk i love art and i wud love to be famous and rich from art but i wud never sell myself out lol o well im 16 there will be a time ta start trippin about money eventually lol

From this cryptic message, I believe you're calling me a "sleezy sell-out douche."

How can you be rich from art if you don't want to sell your art? You can't just speak, "art!" and be rich.


nonononononononono u miss inturprted mi i meant like its cool that ur works in a gallery i wana do that to but wat i meant waz if i get fame and money thats cool but im in it for the art the hobby u no like if its in a gallery dosent mean ur a duche i mean like those artist that splatter a lil bit of paint on a canvas and say oh its my vision of how i see life and bs like that bcuz they no that theyr name means more then the art itself and ur not a duce if u sell out and make stuff for the money instead of the art itself ur a duce its like the music scene right now every body sold out like snoop dogg og n now hes fu*kin geeked up wtf is that scream u no wat i mean question
PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 9:45 am


chingyblingy
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chingyblingy
i want to be an artist but i dnt wana be a sell out and make art for money id rather have pride and dignity then be a sleezy sell out duce lol and idk i love art and i wud love to be famous and rich from art but i wud never sell myself out lol o well im 16 there will be a time ta start trippin about money eventually lol

From this cryptic message, I believe you're calling me a "sleezy sell-out douche."

How can you be rich from art if you don't want to sell your art? You can't just speak, "art!" and be rich.


nonononononononono u miss inturprted mi i meant like its cool that ur works in a gallery i wana do that to but wat i meant waz if i get fame and money thats cool but im in it for the art the hobby u no like if its in a gallery dosent mean ur a duche i mean like those artist that splatter a lil bit of paint on a canvas and say oh its my vision of how i see life and bs like that bcuz they no that theyr name means more then the art itself and ur not a duce if u sell out and make stuff for the money instead of the art itself ur a duce its like the music scene right now every body sold out like snoop dogg og n now hes fu*kin geeked up wtf is that scream u no wat i mean question

neutral
I'm sorry, I really try to follow what you say.

So I misunderstood, you were just saying some people are sell outs and others aren't? Do you think Jackson Pollock is a sell out because he splatters paint on a canvas? If you want the money not the art you're a douche?

And I got that Snoop Dogg is a sell-out? What is "geeked up?"

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 10:20 am


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 10:22 am


chingyblingy
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chingyblingy
i want to be an artist but i dnt wana be a sell out and make art for money id rather have pride and dignity then be a sleezy sell out duce lol and idk i love art and i wud love to be famous and rich from art but i wud never sell myself out lol o well im 16 there will be a time ta start trippin about money eventually lol

From this cryptic message, I believe you're calling me a "sleezy sell-out douche."

How can you be rich from art if you don't want to sell your art? You can't just speak, "art!" and be rich.


nonononononononono u miss inturprted mi i meant like its cool that ur works in a gallery i wana do that to but wat i meant waz if i get fame and money thats cool but im in it for the art the hobby u no like if its in a gallery dosent mean ur a duche i mean like those artist that splatter a lil bit of paint on a canvas and say oh its my vision of how i see life and bs like that bcuz they no that theyr name means more then the art itself and ur not a duce if u sell out and make stuff for the money instead of the art itself ur a duce its like the music scene right now every body sold out like snoop dogg og n now hes fu*kin geeked up wtf is that scream u no wat i mean question
Dude, I can hardly understand what you say. Are you really 16? Cause it feels like you type like a 12 year old.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 10:36 am


well if he splatters paint thats cool as long as he dont make up some bull crap story about it being something it clearly is not like ohh its my symbol for happines so are the fu,ckin splatters next to it happiness to lol and geeked up is wearing those like big sunglasses skinny jeans and shirt that fits big but not tent sized geeked up is also jerking aka audio push new boyz and all that http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qv9VKKXwVxU like this o and let me show u how bad snoop sold out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRRNHsler0M snoop back in the day no sell outs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtUVQei3nX4 ok a lil bit of sell out graff waz like wow thats effin sick and skate boardin waz real cool both of those things have nutin ta do with snoop i mean come on why else wud he hav a such a wak handstyle total toy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAV1-cGVQGk advisory this mainstream junk will hurt your ears wtf is this this fu,ckin total sell out wtf from gangster to geek wtf and yes to me if its about money not the art and you work in art you sold out in my eyes and to me i get there are trends but you can follow a trend with out having ta flip your self completely arond and if you got in it because of your art you should be thankful to your art not the money u should think im guna make money to make art not art to make money cuz thats when the sell out happens id like to make money to make art and maintain my hobby not make my money to make me art bcuz then my art wudnt be as free as it used to be itll be trapped with the trends i want my art to express me not the trends that people will buy just stay true to who you are and dont let fame and riches get to your head and remeber when its the people telling you what to paint its your work not theres in other words paint wat u want and dont worry about what people think and youll be fine and where can i go to see your work i havent seen anything done by you
PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 10:40 am


DROOL The Bomber
chingyblingy
sex.drugs.and.rock
chingyblingy
i want to be an artist but i dnt wana be a sell out and make art for money id rather have pride and dignity then be a sleezy sell out duce lol and idk i love art and i wud love to be famous and rich from art but i wud never sell myself out lol o well im 16 there will be a time ta start trippin about money eventually lol

From this cryptic message, I believe you're calling me a "sleezy sell-out douche."

How can you be rich from art if you don't want to sell your art? You can't just speak, "art!" and be rich.


nonononononononono u miss inturprted mi i meant like its cool that ur works in a gallery i wana do that to but wat i meant waz if i get fame and money thats cool but im in it for the art the hobby u no like if its in a gallery dosent mean ur a duche i mean like those artist that splatter a lil bit of paint on a canvas and say oh its my vision of how i see life and bs like that bcuz they no that theyr name means more then the art itself and ur not a duce if u sell out and make stuff for the money instead of the art itself ur a duce its like the music scene right now every body sold out like snoop dogg og n now hes fu*kin geeked up wtf is that scream u no wat i mean question
Dude, I can hardly understand what you say. Are you really 16? Cause it feels like you type like a 12 year old.
hahahaha yeah im 16 its just that spanish was my first language so my english isnt good you know lol but hey i try hard to learn your peoples language its hard so many ruls and spellins to memerize iz very hard

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 10:51 am


chingyblingy
well if he splatters paint thats cool as long as he dont make up some bull crap story about it being something it clearly is not like ohh its my symbol for happines so are the fu,ckin splatters next to it happiness to lol and geeked up is wearing those like big sunglasses skinny jeans and shirt that fits big but not tent sized geeked up is also jerking aka audio push new boyz and all that http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qv9VKKXwVxU like this o and let me show u how bad snoop sold out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRRNHsler0M snoop back in the day no sell outs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtUVQei3nX4 ok a lil bit of sell out graff waz like wow thats effin sick and skate boardin waz real cool both of those things have nutin ta do with snoop i mean come on why else wud he hav a such a wak handstyle total toy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAV1-cGVQGk advisory this mainstream junk will hurt your ears wtf is this this fu,ckin total sell out wtf from gangster to geek wtf and yes to me if its about money not the art and you work in art you sold out in my eyes and to me i get there are trends but you can follow a trend with out having ta flip your self completely arond and if you got in it because of your art you should be thankful to your art not the money u should think im guna make money to make art not art to make money cuz thats when the sell out happens id like to make money to make art and maintain my hobby not make my money to make me art bcuz then my art wudnt be as free as it used to be itll be trapped with the trends i want my art to express me not the trends that people will buy just stay true to who you are and dont let fame and riches get to your head and remeber when its the people telling you what to paint its your work not theres in other words paint wat u want and dont worry about what people think and youll be fine and where can i go to see your work i havent seen anything done by you

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And maybe if English is your second language you should try to type correctly and not with chatspeak?
PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 10:55 am


i know but its hard this way because i do not understand words ahh fuc.kin english stressed sweatdrop lol

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 3:25 pm


lol
PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 3:32 pm


SOEP ONE
lol
I can follow you on this one. 3nodding

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 3:33 pm


DROOL The Bomber
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lol
I can follow you on this one. 3nodding
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 8:28 pm


Miss_Comet
Yay that's so exciting! I'm happy for you! I'm sure you'll blow everybody out of the water =]

@Smelly you know a lot of people would say that graffiti writer and artist are pretty much synonymous. I know I would. Graffiti kinda is art. And to write it takes some kind of artistic ability. A lot of people can't do it. *shrugs* So what's the difference?


I guess it's just what i was schooled on. Art and graffiti are two different things. I prefer a hand style or a throw more then a piece. So i guess the difference is whether you like the bigger or beautifuler, or more.(to kinda quote cap.)

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 9:20 pm


Smellyfeets
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Yay that's so exciting! I'm happy for you! I'm sure you'll blow everybody out of the water =]

@Smelly you know a lot of people would say that graffiti writer and artist are pretty much synonymous. I know I would. Graffiti kinda is art. And to write it takes some kind of artistic ability. A lot of people can't do it. *shrugs* So what's the difference?


I guess it's just what i was schooled on. Art and graffiti are two different things. I prefer a hand style or a throw more then a piece. So i guess the difference is whether you like the bigger or beautifuler, or more.(to kinda quote cap.)

I can dig it. cool
PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 1:13 pm


sex.drugs.and.rock
SOEP ONE
sex.drugs.and.rock
@SOEP What kind of competitions?


@izak did you get anything for it?


@smelly then what are you, if not an artist?

Graffiti competitions promoted by "art" shops... cool

Neato.
(That's white-girl slang for "ill")

I will never regret the day I accepted your join request, lmao.

Anyways, as for me.
Nope. But I'd love it. I might be able to next year; My art teacher rents a small gallery for a while, I'm sure I could sneak a thing or two in there.

@smellyfeet:
But even handstyles are art. Look at calligraphy.
Sure, some would argue otherwise. But it's still being created, it has a thought proccess behind it. You're doing it so it looks appealing. Whether to just you or to other writers, or the general public. There's something there.

As for me, I consider myself an artist. I've been asked whether I am more a writer or an artist -- That question is sorta stupid, really. I am an artist. Just because graffiti is my medium it doesn't change anything. I am a writer and I am an artist. They are different but they are the same..
I'm getting this omnipresent vibe now. xD

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