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Well.
Most no ones seen what I had to say in another thread.
But my side of the story is,Earths Way older then the bible says it is.
God didnt create us,he created the process that made us,he created the process that created Earth.
Now the Story of adam and eve on how they got here is Unknown,Us maybe god Made them in his own image,or who knows.
Thats where this comes in,you cant beleave everythin we read,I mean lets say this was a story in the bible.
David killed 5 people defenden his town,then another person go's to another place and says david killed 50 people defending his town,then another person go's to another town and says david killed 500 people defending his town.
Now thats called sing song,the earylist form of talking.
My point is the real storys of the bible where lost over time,the bible wasnt writen till bout close to 100 years after,maybe even longer at sometime.

so your saying God lied. becouse God can do any thing if the bible got lost im sure god can do ANY thing to fikes it. and God said in the Bible that every thing is true so you ether belive what the Bible says or your not a christian you cant be both the bible was rightin bi lots of peaple but God told them what to right so i dont know how you cold say the store changed

I do however find it appauling how the school systems will teach us this stuff, but yet the students will get in trouble for mentioning God. The school teachers will sometimes insult God saying "see, there is no way that God could ever exist". It shows their ignorance for God could exist and devised a system of evolution, just like you said.

The school systems have even taken away ALL books that have the mention of God or Jesus in them. Our textbooks don't even acknowledge him. They could at least include that Jesus was alive, since he had such an impact on history. Hence "AC" and "BC". How can you exclude a man who you have clearly accepted something from. If I remember correctly, I think they did change some of those names so that they wouldn't acknowledge Christ

I feel that if we are FORCED to learn THEIR beliefs, then they should be made to listen to ours

we are forced to listen to their beliefs because they are the most sound theories. this is thus the most practical to teach. i highly doubt that teachers would say something so crude as "so god can't exist"- it simply cannot be proven or disproven. and since that is the case, it cannot be part of science. science must be agnostic to be accurate. the idea is to explain how things work, the way they work. regardless of who made them. that cannot be proven. basically, it's like a clock. one side ignores the maker, but looks at every cog, hand and string. the other just states the maker and tosses the clock aside. they don't need to conflict, but one is more precise.

i've met many teachers that actually said God can't exist. i got mad, but was too young to go against the teacher. I didn't have much backbone back then... -. -.

That's a good analogy, but i sort of disagree with you. The theory of evolution is a monkey of some sort, slowly turning into a caveman, then a man. The bible says nothing about man being made from slight change of dna over a period of time. It says "Then God made man." or something along those lines. How could man (Adam) name a monkey a monkey, if he was a monkey, or something along those lines. (using that phrase a lot)

and actually, evolution was proven wrong 5 years ago, but is STILL put in text books. that maddens me to the very end. It was proven that the jaw of this "lucy" or something was really the jaw of an ape, and the rest the skeleton of a man, with something wrong with his pelvis, and a crack in his cranium. Even thought some skeletons from long ago show that their craniums were huge, that doesn't mean it was because of evolution. it could have been a birth defect, or a slight change of genes.

yes, raishon, that aggravates me, too. i've thought of that before. the world just isn't fair. because of a man and woman's choice.

Not a monkey so much as an early ape-like creature, since man's evolutionary antecedents and monkeys had already gone their separate ways by the time bipedalism and large brains started to evolve.


Not really, no, but it is worth noting that in Genesis 3 God curses Eve with increased pain during childbirth—an activity that would have been quite easy for our quadrapedal ancestors but that has become infinitely more difficult since we developed our narrow bipedal hips. Just something to think about.


I believe that you're thinking of Piltdown Man; Lucy is still the genuine article as far as science is concerned. That's all rather irrelevant, though, since the validity of the theory of evolution does not rest on any single fossil, and many biologists would say that it really doesn't rest on fossils at all. There's enough genetic and experimental evidence that the fossil record is, at this point in time, something of a nice appendix to evolutionary theory, not its be all and end all.


Probably because most students were already well acquainted with Christian doctrine. Regardless, there's a reason why they were careful not to affirm the divinity of Jesus (and why I'm certain that they never affirmed the validity of any other religion either): the establishment clause. For a teacher whose salary is being paid by the general public and who works for a secular institution (i.e. a public school) to claim that Jesus, or Muhammad, or Buddha or anyone else represented the 'true' religious path would be a violation of the separation of church and state and therefore unacceptable in that venue.


I don't put Christians down as a group (I have been rather harsh on individual Christians, but that's something else all together), but neither have I, as a non-Christian, ever felt that my unbelief was linked to a subconscious acceptance of the divinity of Christ. Secondly, just because the Western World adopted BC and AD doesn't prove that Jesus existed: it proves that people believe that he existed. Now, I'm not saying that Jesus wasn't an historical figure; I'm just saying that your logic is flawed.


Anno domini. And I acknowledged that B.C. and A.D. have been superceded by B.C.E. and C.E. That's hardly an example of anti-Christian bias, though. It's merely a recognition that not everyone using the Western dating system is a Christian.

ok and in regards to what Seority has said....I agree with you. Evealution and creation co-enside. My theroy i geuss you could call it is that god created us, the earth everything, but things do evolve, from what was origonaly put here which was created by god, thus creating a chain effect, it just proves you cant have one without the other. without creation there would be nothing to evolve from. without eveloution then the origional creations would stay as is, nothing would change and nothing new would come of the earth. so i do beilive kinda sorta in the idea of evolution....just not to the extream that science tends to push upon kids in school and such.

and also, while on the topic of school....I find it quit irritating that a teacher can force upon students the idea of evolution and say "thats the way it is." and the second a student decides to stand up for thier beilife that teacher has the right to silence/punish the kid. happened to me all my life, and i personally think its dumb that its such a one way street when it comes to this debate and public schools.