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Dino
Sexual nature? WTF? ::goes back to read:: Wait. There's nothing on your account. No warnings or anything. I don't discuss warns with anyone except the person who got it. Sorry. It's not allowed.
Gracchia Saint-Justine
Hi,
You've recently sent a PM to the moderators of the MCS guild saying that the guild has breached the ToS. You highlight "threatening, embarrassing, hateful [messages]" as what was done, and then say that the moderators of the guild helped circumvent that rule. Looking through the thread, which appears to have subsequently been deleted (though I might simply be overlooking it in the thread list), there was nothing of that nature. The most one could say is that one member of the guild sought posts that were politically embarrassing made by the people you would say are the target of this behaviour. I asked this person to re-post said embarrassing posts in the MCS, but nowhere was there talk of making "pornographic, threatening, embarrassing, hateful, racially or ethnically insulting, libelous, or otherwise inappropriate messages," least of all the ones you highlighted.
This is important because it sets a precedent for other forums of the site, that quoting what someone has said can be classed as a violation of the ToS if they do not like what hte implications of the quote are. This may simply be moderator oversight, where you didn't actually read the thread in question, and took the complaint at face value. If so, I'd appreciate it if you reviewed your previous decision and removed this black mark against the guild and its moderators.
Finally, where do you get off, firstly making such a warning, and then saying "Further infractions of a sexual nature may escalate into a ban from the site, either for a temporary or permanent amount of time." "Further?" What further? There have been no infractions, much less any of a sexual nature. You give the guild and its moderators a black mark, then have the gall accusing us of what can only be deemed sexual harrassment? If there was any possible reality to this you would have sent a message to the account in question and they would be named. This not being the case, this can be construed as nothing other than libel, something the ToS is against. This guild and its members are known for their very vocal opposition to all forms of sexual harrassment and oppression. This accusation that the guild has engaged in 'infractions of a sexual nature' is nothing other than an unfounded attack on the moral standing of the guild. This can be taken as nothing other than a frame-up and an attempt to undermine the reputation of the guild as a prelude to shutting it down. This is absolutely abhorent. While well within the rights of the owners of the site to set whatever rules they wish, there are, as yet, no points in the ToS about being a communist.
As a member of this guild, I demand you remove this black mark against the guild and apologise to the guild for this attack on its reputation and public standing.
You've recently sent a PM to the moderators of the MCS guild saying that the guild has breached the ToS. You highlight "threatening, embarrassing, hateful [messages]" as what was done, and then say that the moderators of the guild helped circumvent that rule. Looking through the thread, which appears to have subsequently been deleted (though I might simply be overlooking it in the thread list), there was nothing of that nature. The most one could say is that one member of the guild sought posts that were politically embarrassing made by the people you would say are the target of this behaviour. I asked this person to re-post said embarrassing posts in the MCS, but nowhere was there talk of making "pornographic, threatening, embarrassing, hateful, racially or ethnically insulting, libelous, or otherwise inappropriate messages," least of all the ones you highlighted.
This is important because it sets a precedent for other forums of the site, that quoting what someone has said can be classed as a violation of the ToS if they do not like what hte implications of the quote are. This may simply be moderator oversight, where you didn't actually read the thread in question, and took the complaint at face value. If so, I'd appreciate it if you reviewed your previous decision and removed this black mark against the guild and its moderators.
Finally, where do you get off, firstly making such a warning, and then saying "Further infractions of a sexual nature may escalate into a ban from the site, either for a temporary or permanent amount of time." "Further?" What further? There have been no infractions, much less any of a sexual nature. You give the guild and its moderators a black mark, then have the gall accusing us of what can only be deemed sexual harrassment? If there was any possible reality to this you would have sent a message to the account in question and they would be named. This not being the case, this can be construed as nothing other than libel, something the ToS is against. This guild and its members are known for their very vocal opposition to all forms of sexual harrassment and oppression. This accusation that the guild has engaged in 'infractions of a sexual nature' is nothing other than an unfounded attack on the moral standing of the guild. This can be taken as nothing other than a frame-up and an attempt to undermine the reputation of the guild as a prelude to shutting it down. This is absolutely abhorent. While well within the rights of the owners of the site to set whatever rules they wish, there are, as yet, no points in the ToS about being a communist.
As a member of this guild, I demand you remove this black mark against the guild and apologise to the guild for this attack on its reputation and public standing.
That is a cop out. You gave a warning to the guild and its moderators for something that did not happen and then proceded to accuse the guild of sexual misconduct and threaten it with future sanctions. All the members of the guild have the right to demand you remove this unwarranted stain from them as individuals and from the collective.
