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PostPosted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 8:55 pm


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But yeah, I'm told you can find the Army's survival handbook online for free, but the majority of my knowledge comes from the SAS Survival Handbook by John "Lofty" Wiseman. It's a classic and really one of the best books on the subject because it covers basics as well as the different climates and environments; there is also a section on surviving at the homefront in event of natural disaster or nuclear, biological, or chemical attack.


I have that same book, it's a great resource!


I still use it for reference to this day.
PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 4:17 pm


survivalblog.com -- has a TON of information, links, resources, etc. Founder of the site also wrote a book, How to Survive the End of the World as We Know It. I used it for my high school SR project on how to survive the zombie apocalypse in my area, so it can be applied to more probable scenarios as well as the fantastic. Leans a little more toward people with money, but does provide some DIY alternatives for some pricier items that are less high-ticket luxury.

http://www.preppers101.com/ -- offers really great products and information. Also, if you're in the area and haven't heard of this place before, they offer classes, events, and try to make sure they've got a table at the local markets and small festivals. From what research I've put into price comparison, their prices for solar and water purification systems are some of the best I've found. Goal Zero, Berkey, etc.

http://earthship.com/ -- only because I haven't seen it mentioned/linked yet. Pictures on site are of "flagship" design, and therefore much more artistic and not at all incognito, but it could be. Plans and designs for natural climate control, water filtration, and sewage treatment. Greenhouse attachment is not necessary if you are a forage farmer; the design is easily adaptable. Also, the older editions of "how-to" plans and stuff can be downloaded in a .pdf, illegally I imagine. Your morals are yours.


I am currently involved in an off-grid project for the summer to learn and reapply to the region I prefer residing in. So NOT a hot weather person.

We built a solar shower, which is a structure (we used scrap wood with black tarp for walls), a barrel on top that we fill from the river, and a shower head piece that we salvaged from an old Winnebago. The water heats up in the barrel during the day, and by evening there's plenty enough water for 8 of us to shower. We do try to preserve water (turn it off while you're soaping, couples will sometimes shower together), but there hasn't yet been a day that someone has wanted a shower and hasn't been able to have one. Granted, some of the showers have been a tad chilly, and really cold days mean no shower. Really hot days, though, require a swim in the river and maybe a shower, but most of us call the river our hippie bath and enough is enough.

We built compost toilets, which is a structure with a salvaged toilet seat, over a 4-5 foot deep pit. Human waste is typically not fit for composting because it is very high in nitrogen, so we have a small box of wood chips or something of the like. After you do your business, throw in a handful of wood chips, which will add carbon to the decomposing process and make better compost. When the hole is close to full, bury it and let it sit for about a year. Then you can dig it up, turn it, and add it to the rest of your compost.

We built a water purifier, which is two 5-gal food grade buckets, some cloth, rope, two Black Berkey filter elements, and a plastic piece we use to keep the buckets from falling into each other. We installed the filter elements as per instruction in the top bucket, and covered it with the cloth. The cloth acts as a pre-filter, stopping a lot of dirt and debris from getting in with the filters, prolonging their life and time between cleaning. That bucket sits on top of a scrap piece of plastic that we cleaned and cut a hole in, and the filtered drops are caught in the bottom bucket. We pour this into the main water container we use at camp, and reserve it for drinking and cooking when the water is apart of the meal, and not strained out. I would perfect this design by 1) prefiltering at a different location. Water doesn't move quickly through the fabric, and it can be a tedious chore to stand there and try to fill a 5-gal bucket a 1/4 oz at a time. 2) Make sure the buckets have lids. The seal is much better and risk of contaminating leaks or exposure to bugs and dirt is minimized. 3) Have a stand for the filtering bucket, and clean catch buckets to switch out once one is full. Stacking one on top of the other works, but the filter elements are delicate and minimizing how often and how much that bucket needs to be adjusted or moved will help to maximize the life of your filter.

A solar dehydrator can be built out of an old refrigerator. We don't have one yet, but that's because we're still trying to salvage a refrigerator. We plan for a solar dehydrator, solar oven, and a smoker by fall.

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Michael Noire

PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 11:37 am


surviving off grid requires the same things it always has - look to the Romans to know what that is - clean water, sanitation and septic systems, the ability to boil and filter water, a large place to store grains, the ability to create dry goods and a safe place to put them, a safe place to grow renewable crops, a plentiful source of meat through prolific hunting or flocks, the ability to make and repair metal tools, a safe wall or barrier to keep out villains and predators, weapons, and armor to defend against the weapons of others.

You'll notice how few of these elements are actually promoted in "off grid" systems. Chemical Biological and Radiation gear is also a potential necessity post 20th century for things like pepper spray, dirty bombs, DPU, and so forth. You will also want some good hearing protection for various reasons.

Bottom line is, I don't think anyone in this guild can afford it. You can probably afford some of them, you can all afford a bug out bag, and most of you should be able to defend yourself to some limited degree, but sustainability off grid is hundreds of thousands of dollars. Cattle aren't free and the land to put them on costs even more. You need a lot of acres, or you need to become a vegan. Even if it's just chickens you still need to have enough feed for the chickens, so you still need a lot of extra land you don't get to eat directly to feed them. Bunnies and Chickens are probably among the best choices because you can then get pelts and eggs.
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