OH MY GAH!!! WHAT HAPPENED!

[C0der]

Through the mist we walk...

I believe C0der was trying to put across that he uses "s**t" on a regular basis but I myself happen to know from his BBC Web Post's and his recent interviews that he believes every show was bad with only 2 good stories in the entire history of the show.
He puts companions down on a regular basis and previous Dr's. I outlined a long list of contradictions on problems he had with both show and books and how he believed all should not have been made but went out to work on short stories.

He is a fan, this is true. He is a fan of the First Dr. only, even though he pretends he is also "s**t" and complains about him the most. Hard Core fans will notice in the first episode that there is many First Dr. references, right down to the sticker on the blue box.

As someone mentioned before I did, he recently explained that he found that regenerating was a bad thing because it was a weak attempt to keep the show going and believed it should of died out when it did.
But do not get me wrong, he does like that show but he likes to hate it also.

I agree with MJC though, If I was to defend him after all the bad things he has said about the show then I would have to see his views and to see his views would mean I wouldn't be watching in the first place. Well said MJC.
I also do not believe he has given any spoilers. He has only told people things that can be seen in the trailers as have I.

@ C0der.
I am so happy that you did the research like a true fan would. I believe this guild is a stepping stone for newer fans as any fan would have a thirst for learning about their show. I believe newer fans start out blind almost and only know a handful of information before moving up and going out to learn. I am angered that many people here do not seem to know much about Doctor Who because they do not bother going out and searching the net and learning. (It only takes 5mins to find the history of the show and everything else) But like you, I am also deeply saddened that no one would do the google search that MJC had suggested (Because it indeed did take 2mins) and find the information. I almost believed there was a laziness or even an ignorant streak. I am happy that was not the case but I am still sad that they did not take 2mins (took me 6secs) to look things up, with more time you could probably find everything.

And in the mist we all get lost.

 

[C0der]

Through the mist we walk...

@SaphiraStar
Do not get me wrong. "true fan" aka *True Interest* should not bother anyone as it just means your a fan who spent more than a day liking the show and it didn't just pass you by. If your staying at this guild then you must be a real fan and not someone who had a passing interest in it. I liked StarWars but you don't see me joining a guild for it. "true fan" Meant exactly how it was wrote.
I'm sorry you felt I was pointing fingers but do not worry, I don't doubt your a fan I'm truly sorry you felt it meant something.... I'm just still a little sad that you pointed out MJC's google search suggestion and even though you tried it you could only find a wiki but not go down to the BBC forums for those official radio cast's. It was easy for me to find but then I have been a member for 3years on the BBC Who Boards.

I would believe both MJC and C0der because true to his word a quick google search sufficed and a quick trip down to BBC Who Boards worked just as well. I would leave my judgement till after I would have done the research though.

"the only time during my search that I saw him insulting the show, the website was wikia.com (aka wikipedia, aka an unreliable source of information.) " And yet from what I remember, C0der found 5 sites down another different site that she linked that showed him insulting the show.

As it stands, he did put the show down a lot and this is fact if people can do the research. I am getting the feeling that MJC might not have given those links because perhaps he felt doing so would just get ignorant replies and people who chose to not look, pretend it didn't exist or go to the BBC Who Baords, find the information, not liked what they seen and then pretend he didn't even mention it. Please do nut jump to defence again, I am not saying you did actually go to the BBC Who Board and didn't like what you found but I do know many who would and that's a reason I wouldn't bother linking anyone to anything. MJC may have had other reasons though.

But like C0der is about to learn, it was pointless her linking to anything and she may decide in the future to never try again.

And in the mist we all get lost.

 

[C0der]

Through the mist we walk...

@SaphiraStar Do not apologise, It is me who should. Sometimes my wording may seem harsh and chiding.

I do not believe your stupid for not finding the BBC Who Boards as it is in Flash form and it's not so easy to find, let alone bookmark. The only way I find it first time is by clicking my email from 3yrs ago.

As for C0der as I am sure she will tell us herself soon enough. No one likes it when you point out problems with their precious SM and although this seems bad of me to say, people do actually defend him too much and have a little too much blind interest in him to just be curious about him. You find yourself wondering if they're his family members. I pointed out many of his quotes and contradictions and instantly had a slew of hate PM's telling me how I was wrong and how I just don't like him and how he will be great if I would only give him a chance and that I should shut up and keep my opinions to myself because I have not seen the show and I am not entitled to one, even though at the time they had not seen it to form the opinion he would do a good job.

So I am very sure that C0der is getting a lot of hate PM's for her link. And that is why I believe that MJC couldn't be bothered.

I own and have watched every show to date, (please do not get me wrong because I am not saying this makes me better, it just means I have too much time on my hands and need to get a life) But it does give me an insight into things. I have a very good memory and a little O.C.D. So I can pretty much pick out all un-cannon parts of a show and plot holes that Ron Jeremy couldn't even find. So for me, my gripe with the show is that it is very un-cannon. MJC said his was that SM was calling everything "s**t" and putting the show down but for me, thanks to my O.C.D, my problem is the shows not so cannon parts and minor plot holes. RTD 's could be explained but these I am having a hard time explaining. And I must mention to anyone else who will notice them and then remember that SM thinks the show is very bad, he is not doing it because he doesn't care but I believe it is just an oversight. I believe SM must like the show no matter how much he pretends to hate it so I am sure he is trying his best to make it work so I think everyone should remember this when taking into account the plot holes and non-cannon.
The acting though? That's a different story, it was a little bad.

And in the mist we all get lost.

 

[C0der]

Through the mist we walk...

Indeed, I know exactly what you mean.
My problem I have been having lately is explaining it to my girl friend who has recently got into the show and when ever I explain something in full I am met with "But if that's right then why did *Dr. Who Moment Goes Here* happen?"
But that Wiki you found is run by the BBC Who fan board and usually they find the cannon to be law, but like you say, anything in that can be edited but I have found a use for that site. If you look up an episodes name, it will try to explain away the plot holes and cannon errors further down the page. This may help if you need to explain stuff.

The explanations are put in place after many forums debates and many people agreeing on one thing and then they are wrote down into the Tardis Wikia. So even though it's easily edited by anyone, it's still worth a look for a quick plot hole / Connonicity explanation.

And in the mist we all get lost.