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 Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 12:40 pm
darkphoenix1247 Kiashana ...I'm totally lost right now. Let's go with this: If I were Orthodox, and actually worried about this stuff, I'd have to throw out half my wardrobe and change summer camps. For me it's not necessarily with camps and stuff, but I mean, come on! How am I supposed to spar guys and learn takedowns without touching them? xp It's not like I wrestle guys or anything like that, but I just agree with Kia's view on this one. No offense, but touching a member of the opposite sex hardly means you're having sex with them. I'm sorry if this offends anybody sweatdrop of course not... http://www.askmoses.com/qa_detail.html?h=237&o=81309 - an interesting point
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Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 10:41 am
ZonkotheSane darkphoenix1247 Kiashana ...I'm totally lost right now. Let's go with this: If I were Orthodox, and actually worried about this stuff, I'd have to throw out half my wardrobe and change summer camps. For me it's not necessarily with camps and stuff, but I mean, come on! How am I supposed to spar guys and learn takedowns without touching them? xp It's not like I wrestle guys or anything like that, but I just agree with Kia's view on this one. No offense, but touching a member of the opposite sex hardly means you're having sex with them. I'm sorry if this offends anybody sweatdrop of course not... http://www.askmoses.com/qa_detail.html?h=237&o=81309 - an interesting point That was very helpfull! 3nodding
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Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 6:05 pm
nathan_ngl That was very helpfull! 3nodding no problem. it's a great site, if anyone has the time to check it out.
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Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 6:16 pm
I did- it does make a good point 3nodding
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darkphoenix1247 Vice Captain
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Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 6:50 pm
It makes a good point, but honestly- I can't see myself following that. I mean honestly, touching my male friends is about intimacy in a very different way. I can easily distinguish between intimacy with friends or intimacy intimacy. I hug my female friends all the time- and I don't like to place such a huge difference between my male and female friends. The more emphasis you put on the difference between friendships with the same sex and friendships with the opposite sex, the more difficult it is to keep those friendships with the opposite sex from getting awkward.
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Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 8:19 pm
Kiashana It makes a good point, but honestly- I can't see myself following that. I mean honestly, touching my male friends is about intimacy in a very different way. I can easily distinguish between intimacy with friends or intimacy intimacy. I hug my female friends all the time- and I don't like to place such a huge difference between my male and female friends. The more emphasis you put on the difference between friendships with the same sex and friendships with the opposite sex, the more difficult it is to keep those friendships with the opposite sex from getting awkward. i've never had issues with it in the past 8 years of co-ed schooling. *shrug* btw, i don't touch my friends of the male persuasion, either. sex is like food. if you snack too much, you ruin your appetite. (there are tons and tons of other similarities between sex and food. almost as much as comparing torah to water)
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darkphoenix1247 Vice Captain
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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 2:39 pm
rofl I'm not going to get into it- but you sounded exactly like one of my brother's friends right there.
I agree it makes a good point, but that doesn't mean I agree with it personally 3nodding
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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 3:28 pm
Zonko, it's not like I have sex. I mean, I've never even had a serious boyfriend. I just don't consider touching a friend to be even close to sexual in any way at all.
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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 5:44 pm
Kiashana Zonko, it's not like I have sex. I mean, I've never even had a serious boyfriend. I just don't consider touching a friend to be even close to sexual in any way at all. and eating potato chips isn't even close to really eating. sex (and sexual/physical contact) is also like food, in that if you have a food you really like every day, it won't seem so special after a while. kia, you don't consider a lot of things the way i do. i can respect that. but it's not like my point is completely without reason.
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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 6:47 pm
All reasoning has its reasons 3nodding
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darkphoenix1247 Vice Captain
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Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 8:01 am
Zonko, your reasoning definitely makes sense. And I definitely even follow some of that to some extent- I have friends who will make out with friends just because they're horny, but I feel that sexual behavior needs to stay out of platonic relationships. A platonic hug is very different from making out with a male friend for no reason.
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Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 10:31 am
Kiashana Zonko, your reasoning definitely makes sense. And I definitely even follow some of that to some extent- I have friends who will make out with friends just because they're horny, but I feel that sexual behavior needs to stay out of platonic relationships. A platonic hug is very different from making out with a male friend for no reason. of course- the two are on entire different levels. but when you boil it all down, they're two shades of the same color. to each their own, though.
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darkphoenix1247 Vice Captain
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Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 2:17 pm
It's funny how we're all saying these horribly lame and overused cliches xd blaugh
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Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 3:22 pm
darkphoenix1247 It's funny how we're all saying these horribly lame and overused cliches xd blaugh .... crying
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Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 3:23 pm
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I don't get it-sorry sweatdrop
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