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 Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 3:27 am
Dunsinane Hill SaphiraStar correction. he said it twice. once at the end of End of Time and once in the preview. And I agree about the gun thing. it looked like he was shooting at something, not someone. He had a horribly surprised look on his face when he punched that guy, and when he hit the dalek; It's a DALEK! It's not going to be hurt by a man wielding a big stick. (upon closer inspection, it's not a baseball bat.) Nine actually tried to kill a dalek. At most, this guy's gonna put a dent in the casing. I second the gun thing. (Third?) Too bad it's not a baseball bat, Ace would have been proud. And I find the look of total surprise quite endearing. Ten just got through with pointing guns, so I'm sure there's a good explanation. And it is a baseball bat; I think that's what they were referencing, because that shot looked so similar to the picture of Ace whacking a Dalek. I also have to ditto the surprised look when he hit the guy. It's like he doesn't have complete control of his faculties yet.
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Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 11:42 am
Through the mist we walk... To be honest.
TL biggrin R.
For me it's not Matt Smith but rather the writer, ( Steven Moffat ) That's the problem. It may be a bad thing for him to need 6 other writers to note down 2 episodes a piece, of the new series or it could be a good thing because someone can always add something different.
But I believe too many cooks keep the doctor away.
Nor do I like how people seem to be bashing Russell T Davies, probly just because he's gay and Welsh. I too do not like him, ( For other reasons ) but I see how he turned 3 Who-verse stories into gold dust and gave the series a come back that Jesus would have been proud of, won it multiple awards and gave it the first time in history for BBC to use in it's 10 segment holiday calender, among other things.
But that's a little off topic here, seeing as how this is about Matt smith and all.
So lets be honest here.
Matt Smith has not had many roles to date, apart from some small parts here and there.
There is no "Living in a cave" line. The only reason you wouldn't hear of Matt Smith is if you have been living in a council estate with 3 kids and a very good social life, bit of a film buff and watch TV when you get back from work. He's not a well known (big) actor and although some may have heard of him, he still isn't that big and well known.
In the small parts he did have, many critics and reviews claimed he was very wooden and awkward in his movements.
Count in that big head and large chin and you have Frankenstein's monster.
Now it is true that each DR is played in the most unusual of ways and it takes an unusual actor to pull it off but my gripe is that Matt is always awkward in real life as it is.
Matt Smith himself is probly your regular student and is probly great to go have a pint with and seeing as the doctor has always been a bit odd, he may fit in.
But in all truth, fan-girls/boys aside. You have to start looking at the actor and what he can do instead of blindly defending and accusing him. I'm not saying anyone here does that but I know many that do, it started with DT before he got the roll and it's still going on.
As for holding a gun, It doesn't matter what he used it for or aimed at, even if it is for shooting a lock off. The point is each doctor although woke up with a completely new take on life and personality, they still kept part of the last doctor and fused it with their own take as did the writers. once wrote out, it then becomes law and the next writer follows on from it, taking cues from the old, building on and using new ideas.
10th had the time war to show him how to turn away from violence. 9th had a bit of a temper and with a new re-gen gave him the ability to escape. 8th was romantic and calm after a long life of being 7th. you get the idea. So even though we have no clue why he has a gun or why he hits a human, the point still remains, a good writer has to work with things and create a full dimensional character.
The doctor doesn't attack humans and I am basing this on 10th, Many people won't like this but seeing as the 10th is part of the 11nth and the writers job is to work with everything and then work with new ideas, it still seems odd and a bit stupid that he would hit a human even if the human was about to have sex with the tardis. So if it turns out that he hit or used a gun for any reason of violence other than mind control or to be the only way to save the world or many years have gone by and he has time to develop and get over what has just happened, then it's just stupid. And in the mist we all get lost.
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Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 12:34 pm
Oh, I'm more than happy to give Matt Smith a go, and loved him at the end of the last episode.
: D I just have my reserves about Moffat from the episodes he's already written. I love his context and ideas (The Empty Child, Silence in the Library, Girl in the Fireplace), but I want to pull my hair out over the random romance and, in my opinion, fairytale females. Sally Sparrow, River Song, Amy Pond. And they're all so strikingly pretty. : / I liked how... normal Rose, Martha, and Donna were. And the only Moffat girl I think I've found convincingly plucky and interesting was the cockney mother in Empty Child.
And let's put aside certain comments in interviews about women being needy husband-hunters. : D I don't want to jump of the bandwagon of the PC-hyper sensitive, so I just think his female characters and penchant for random mush gets up my nose, and that could turn ME off the series... If other's don't mind, woo for them!
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Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 2:01 pm
Tanubi Yoshim Nor do I like how people seem to be bashing Russell T Davies, probly just because he's gay and Welsh. Ok, wait. WHAT!? When has anyone here ever done that? Honestly, I couldn't care less if he's Welsh or Canadian or Brazilian or Korean and I don't care if he's gay or straight or bi or Jack, for crying out loud. I'm pretty sure no one else here does either. Do NOT accuse people of things like that without a very good reason! mad As to the rest of your post... You know what. I quit. If you want to think that way, then be my guest. I'm not going to argue with you or anyone else anymore. It's obviously pointless.
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Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 8:25 pm
If this is a dream, the whole world is inside it. I'm excited for him. I can't wait to see what the new episodes are going to be like, and especially what the new companion is going to be like! :3 heart
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Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 9:58 pm
I personally don't think anyone should talk bad about RTD, if it wasn't for him the show might still be dead for another couple of years. cry
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Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 9:33 pm
Eruravenne Tanubi Yoshim Nor do I like how people seem to be bashing Russell T Davies, probly just because he's gay and Welsh. Actually, neither of those are why I don't like him. Those happen to be two really irrelevant facts in my case against him. Now, this is the Matt Smith thread, not the RTD thread, but I'll be more than happy to explain exactly why I don't like RTD somewhere else, if you want. I'm incredibly enthusiastic about series five: one, I miss seeing it on the TV, and two, the promos actually look rather good, from what little I've seen. If Matt turns out to be good as Eleven, then I'll be really happy. If not, I'll just take the good with the bad and keep going. (Example: TW s1 was largely terrible but s2 was much more improved.) It takes time to get used to another character, both acting- and writing-wise.
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Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 9:17 am
Defender_Of_Earth_Rose I personally don't think anyone should talk bad about RTD, if it wasn't for him the show might still be dead for another couple of years. cry Ditto on that. RTD is amazing. And he always will be.
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Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 4:58 pm
Through the mist we walk... @ Eruravenne
What I am saying is, I have no clue why people hate RTD and those are the only things people could have a problem with seeing as though I can't figure out as to why they seem to dislike him.
The man has given life to the show and gave it many first timers in the shows history.
Many credits and awards have been given to the show for the first time in history and seeing as he has 2 other TV shows that are getting the same, he seems like a good writer. So I jokingly say Welsh and Gay because I have no idea what peoples problem is with him.
I know SM has made sure that in every episode and every story he has wrote, everyone lives. That could be a reason why people do not like RTD, because not every lives.
Do not take my my post the wrong way, I was not accusing anyone of hating him for being Gay or Welsh, it was just a joke as there seems to be a loss why people dislike him.
As to the rest of my post, it's based on fact and my opinion. I have noticed you posting a lot around the guild with your own opinion, most of it is just your opinion and not much fact, (I do not have a problem with your opinion even if it does turn out to be false and very wrong). this isn't how I post. if anyone is gonna have a problem with fact and my opinion then I am sorry to say but perhaps they should quit. I am aloud to think that way and voice it.
I have another opinion too.. Can you say Fanfic? I can see it now. *River Song turns to the doctor and lets out a gasp as his true name escapes her parched lips* "Steven? Steven? Is it you? Oh Steven I want you, my 48yr old time travelling stud!"
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Has anyone wondered as to why they used Matt Smith when SM said that he believed only a 40yr old or older could play the DR? And in the mist we all get lost.
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Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 5:09 pm
@ Tanubi Yoshim
I think a lot of people hate RTD's writing rather than the show, which is totally a matter of taste. Also, he lost a ton of support over Torchwood's last season. Still, even his most vehement detractors usually acknowledge the debt he is owed for resurrecting Doctor Who.
I also don't think it's that he kills characters. Almost every author kills characters. I'm relatively sure that Steven Moffat will kill characters off at some point.
From what I can tell, most people dislike RTD's writing for:
Plot holes
Ridiculously over-blown finales
A borderline-show-damaging obsession with Rose Tyler (whom I liked, incidentally)
Seriously. Even people who liked Rose got a bit annoyed when she kept coming back. I personally thought it cheapened the emotional impact of Doomsday, which I thought was done incredibly well.
I'm sure there are people who hate him for being a gay Welshman, but for most fans it's an artistic difference.
So, back to the charming fellow who is the point of this thread.
Matt Smith:
Is it shallow that I'm already in love? I think he's going to be marvelous. Rather than wondering why they cast a 27-year-old where they'd planned on someone in his 40's, I'm going to trust that it was because he walked in and blew them all away. He wasn't what anyone expected, but he obviously nailed it. And even if he turns out to be the next Colin Baker, he's much more attractive. Also, maybe it's that I've only seen Vengeance on Varos, but Colin doesn't seem that awful.
In short, I can't wait to see him in action. I love this show so much, and since new Doctors are inherent to the show, it's more fun to assume the best.
Also? He's damn adorable.
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Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 9:05 pm
Dunsinane, I agree with everything you said. I'm prepared for the chance that Matt will turn out to be a disappointment, but I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt based on what I've seen of his Doctor thus far. Nothing else comes into play.
(Also, I'm a fan of the Sixth Doctor so if he turns out to be another Colin, I'll have no problem with that, heheh. Just as long as the writing is better than in Colin's day, that is.)
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Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 5:28 am
Through the mist we walk... I did notice the plot holes but it all seems explainable and reading the Caster Diary's, I can see why they are all explainable. But there was more unexplainable plot holes during the Colin Baker years. I could mention over a few hundred but I understand what your saying.
Also, I do admit Rose did keep coming back and it was a bit of an obsession but in the couple of episodes I have seen of the new series, (Not in the most legal of ways) Amy is going to be Rose with vengeance but I have only seen two and these could be the only Amy Pond heavy ep's but it didn't seem like it. Only thing I like so far, is the tardis now sports a top floor. And in the mist we all get lost.
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Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 2:30 pm
Off Topic:
Sonic Fans laugh now...
Amy Rose
XD
On Topic:
I'd rather have a happy end for rose then to know that she would spend the rest of her life alone. Besides I'm sure she won't be coming back for quiet along time. If she does it will most likely be with Ten or the clone. Which won't happen since Steven Moffat hated her with a passion.
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Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 1:02 am
Defender_Of_Earth_Rose Off Topic: Sonic Fans laugh now... Amy Rose XD
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Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 7:14 pm
I would want to give MS a chance but SM kinda ******** it up for me and you ever seen DR WHO #1? well this dude has gone and changed the 11th into a frisky old geeza and i see so many refs to the first DR WHO in the first few episodes and i am wondering why. He also looks emo and a right sad mofo.
when the first episode starts up your wondering where the action went and then you come face to face with some sleezy kisser gram and then come face to face with how fast #11 goes for it. Amy Pond is really dull so what she is doing becoming a kisser gram and then making out with #11 is anyones guess. in real life she would be sat at home doodling and working as a shop assistant in some second hand store.
DR WHO? He be a bad mutha ********. Matt Smith? He just be a sad mutha ********.
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