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 Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 12:10 am
one of our guild members made an interesting post about "China forces woman into abortion at EIGHT months for breaching one-child policy"
http://www.gaiaonline.com/forum/extended-discussion/something-to-make-pro-choicers-pro-lifers-think/t.66581937/?_gaia_t_=616
"The policy leads to an estimated 13 million abortions every year, with many of those ordered by local authorities. Infanticide is also widespread in many rural areas."
I was completely oblivious to the statistics... and to think how many baby girls are killed because the fathers want boy's to carry on their name...
what a sick sad world we live in sweatdrop
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Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 12:24 am
As numbers of people increase, quality of life goes down.
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Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 2:15 am
The Chinease have a population problem..
I can understand them doing s**t like this.
They have too many people, too little food.
With one box of rice, and 10 million people, everyone dies.
With one box of rice, and 100 people, they get fed.
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Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 7:47 pm
One more reason to demonize the commies.
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Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 9:04 am
i wonder if the airport scanners are a depopulation trick - causing cancer in the older passengers and destroying the ability of the young to reproduce effectively.
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Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 2:26 pm
Michael Noire i wonder if the airport scanners are a depopulation trick - causing cancer in the older passengers and destroying the ability of the young to reproduce effectively. well if they ever implement them into schools that would definitely be the case. 2 scans minimum every school day? sure to cause massive problems regarding health.
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Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 8:49 pm
TrutherMei Michael Noire i wonder if the airport scanners are a depopulation trick - causing cancer in the older passengers and destroying the ability of the young to reproduce effectively. well if they ever implement them into schools that would definitely be the case. 2 scans minimum every school day? sure to cause massive problems regarding health. too true.. and on the population debate on not enough food: If more land were converted from animals to say nuts and seeds and other sources of protein - there would be tons of food. way too much land goes to meat, and growing the food for the meat. that is a lot of land and resources that would be much better off growing other things. The average American diet is sad. seriously. look up SAD DIET.
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Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 9:00 pm
ammaea TrutherMei Michael Noire i wonder if the airport scanners are a depopulation trick - causing cancer in the older passengers and destroying the ability of the young to reproduce effectively. well if they ever implement them into schools that would definitely be the case. 2 scans minimum every school day? sure to cause massive problems regarding health. too true.. and on the population debate on not enough food: If more land were converted from animals to say nuts and seeds and other sources of protein - there would be tons of food. way too much land goes to meat, and growing the food for the meat. that is a lot of land and resources that would be much better off growing other things. The average American diet is sad. seriously. look up SAD DIET. I don't think that growing vegan protein would really change the situation much. If we took all of the grazing land and used it for farmland we'd have the same issues of food production, pesticides, et cetera. We'd just be producing a different kind of food.
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Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 1:15 am
Sterilize drug addicts so they can't have kids? This video probably doesn't really belong in this thread, but people really shouldn't bring children into the world if they can't even take care of themselves. I guess as long as this isn't mandatory its not eugenics. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sat2X7-orU
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Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 2:09 am
Obscurus ammaea TrutherMei Michael Noire i wonder if the airport scanners are a depopulation trick - causing cancer in the older passengers and destroying the ability of the young to reproduce effectively. well if they ever implement them into schools that would definitely be the case. 2 scans minimum every school day? sure to cause massive problems regarding health. too true.. and on the population debate on not enough food: If more land were converted from animals to say nuts and seeds and other sources of protein - there would be tons of food. way too much land goes to meat, and growing the food for the meat. that is a lot of land and resources that would be much better off growing other things. The average American diet is sad. seriously. look up SAD DIET. I don't think that growing vegan protein would really change the situation much. If we took all of the grazing land and used it for farmland we'd have the same issues of food production, pesticides, et cetera. We'd just be producing a different kind of food. I've read quite a bit lately on how it would help a lot actually... http://www.animalaid.org.uk/images/pdf/factfiles/wreck.pdfhttp://factoidz.com/give-up-red-meat-to-help-save-the-planet/ have you looked at how much land is used for large factory farms? and how much grain it really takes to feed the cows, etc? something to think about anyway..
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Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 2:17 am
Oh, glad you mentioned the grain, I mean corn, cuz I was gonna say those farms don't take up much space at all! The animals are side by side with no room usually xd
a lot of Californian farms are empty these days. people just don't seem to be growing crops as much as they used to. not really sure why. not profitable? hard to sell? more trouble than it's worth? i see empty fields with just grass and wish that property was mine. I'd at least grow food for my family!
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Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 8:14 am
ammaea Obscurus ammaea TrutherMei Michael Noire i wonder if the airport scanners are a depopulation trick - causing cancer in the older passengers and destroying the ability of the young to reproduce effectively. well if they ever implement them into schools that would definitely be the case. 2 scans minimum every school day? sure to cause massive problems regarding health. too true.. and on the population debate on not enough food: If more land were converted from animals to say nuts and seeds and other sources of protein - there would be tons of food. way too much land goes to meat, and growing the food for the meat. that is a lot of land and resources that would be much better off growing other things. The average American diet is sad. seriously. look up SAD DIET. I don't think that growing vegan protein would really change the situation much. If we took all of the grazing land and used it for farmland we'd have the same issues of food production, pesticides, et cetera. We'd just be producing a different kind of food. I've read quite a bit lately on how it would help a lot actually... http://www.animalaid.org.uk/images/pdf/factfiles/wreck.pdfhttp://factoidz.com/give-up-red-meat-to-help-save-the-planet/ have you looked at how much land is used for large factory farms? and how much grain it really takes to feed the cows, etc? something to think about anyway.. I'm just going to say that I didn't read the links; not because I don't care but because I don't think it's necessary to read them for me to make my point of equivalent exchange. I know there is a lot of land used for factory farming, but it would take even more to raise organic livestock. It takes a lot of grain to feed the cows, but it would take a whole lot more land to feed them all grass. People don't want to give up meat. Growing large amounts of food organically would take a ridiculous amount of land to produce what we produce now because crop loss from pests, disease, drought, etc. would take a much heavier toll without pesticides and GMOs. I just don't see it as being feasible myself. Maybe it is, but coming from someone that has grown up on a farm, the son of farmers, I don't see it as feasible for the farmers or for the consumers. Costs would skyrocket. There has to be a trade-off: You either have factory farms condensed into a relatively small area and you use pesticides and GMOs, or you use huge amounts of land (and contend with the deforestation and habitat destruction that causes).
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Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 4:07 pm
Obscurus ammaea Obscurus ammaea TrutherMei Michael Noire i wonder if the airport scanners are a depopulation trick - causing cancer in the older passengers and destroying the ability of the young to reproduce effectively. well if they ever implement them into schools that would definitely be the case. 2 scans minimum every school day? sure to cause massive problems regarding health. too true.. and on the population debate on not enough food: If more land were converted from animals to say nuts and seeds and other sources of protein - there would be tons of food. way too much land goes to meat, and growing the food for the meat. that is a lot of land and resources that would be much better off growing other things. The average American diet is sad. seriously. look up SAD DIET. I don't think that growing vegan protein would really change the situation much. If we took all of the grazing land and used it for farmland we'd have the same issues of food production, pesticides, et cetera. We'd just be producing a different kind of food. I've read quite a bit lately on how it would help a lot actually... http://www.animalaid.org.uk/images/pdf/factfiles/wreck.pdfhttp://factoidz.com/give-up-red-meat-to-help-save-the-planet/ have you looked at how much land is used for large factory farms? and how much grain it really takes to feed the cows, etc? something to think about anyway.. I'm just going to say that I didn't read the links; not because I don't care but because I don't think it's necessary to read them for me to make my point of equivalent exchange. I know there is a lot of land used for factory farming, but it would take even more to raise organic livestock. It takes a lot of grain to feed the cows, but it would take a whole lot more land to feed them all grass. People don't want to give up meat. Growing large amounts of food organically would take a ridiculous amount of land to produce what we produce now because crop loss from pests, disease, drought, etc. would take a much heavier toll without pesticides and GMOs. I just don't see it as being feasible myself. Maybe it is, but coming from someone that has grown up on a farm, the son of farmers, I don't see it as feasible for the farmers or for the consumers. Costs would skyrocket. There has to be a trade-off: You either have factory farms condensed into a relatively small area and you use pesticides and GMOs, or you use huge amounts of land (and contend with the deforestation and habitat destruction that causes). I wasn't talking about organic livestock. I was talking about organic beans and lentils and oats and different grains. (Stuff you soak for so many hours to let out the phytic acid, ect) Other sources of proteins and whatnot.. Organic soy? *shrug* There'd be double the land mass and you'd get a lot more out of it as far as I could tell.. someone correct me if I'm wrong
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Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 9:56 pm
ammaea Obscurus ammaea Obscurus ammaea too true.. and on the population debate on not enough food: If more land were converted from animals to say nuts and seeds and other sources of protein - there would be tons of food. way too much land goes to meat, and growing the food for the meat. that is a lot of land and resources that would be much better off growing other things. The average American diet is sad. seriously. look up SAD DIET. I don't think that growing vegan protein would really change the situation much. If we took all of the grazing land and used it for farmland we'd have the same issues of food production, pesticides, et cetera. We'd just be producing a different kind of food. I've read quite a bit lately on how it would help a lot actually... http://www.animalaid.org.uk/images/pdf/factfiles/wreck.pdfhttp://factoidz.com/give-up-red-meat-to-help-save-the-planet/ have you looked at how much land is used for large factory farms? and how much grain it really takes to feed the cows, etc? something to think about anyway.. I'm just going to say that I didn't read the links; not because I don't care but because I don't think it's necessary to read them for me to make my point of equivalent exchange. I know there is a lot of land used for factory farming, but it would take even more to raise organic livestock. It takes a lot of grain to feed the cows, but it would take a whole lot more land to feed them all grass. People don't want to give up meat. Growing large amounts of food organically would take a ridiculous amount of land to produce what we produce now because crop loss from pests, disease, drought, etc. would take a much heavier toll without pesticides and GMOs. I just don't see it as being feasible myself. Maybe it is, but coming from someone that has grown up on a farm, the son of farmers, I don't see it as feasible for the farmers or for the consumers. Costs would skyrocket. There has to be a trade-off: You either have factory farms condensed into a relatively small area and you use pesticides and GMOs, or you use huge amounts of land (and contend with the deforestation and habitat destruction that causes). I wasn't talking about organic livestock. I was talking about organic beans and lentils and oats and different grains. (Stuff you soak for so many hours to let out the phytic acid, ect) Other sources of proteins and whatnot.. Organic soy? *shrug* There'd be double the land mass and you'd get a lot more out of it as far as I could tell.. someone correct me if I'm wrong I still think that you would need the same amount of land (if not more) to grow organic vegan proteins as you would to raise farm animals, organic or not. Unless there's something I don't know about vegan protein that makes it far superior to animal protein in the production sense.
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Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 3:41 am
Obscurus ammaea Obscurus ammaea Obscurus ammaea too true.. and on the population debate on not enough food: If more land were converted from animals to say nuts and seeds and other sources of protein - there would be tons of food. way too much land goes to meat, and growing the food for the meat. that is a lot of land and resources that would be much better off growing other things. The average American diet is sad. seriously. look up SAD DIET. I don't think that growing vegan protein would really change the situation much. If we took all of the grazing land and used it for farmland we'd have the same issues of food production, pesticides, et cetera. We'd just be producing a different kind of food. I've read quite a bit lately on how it would help a lot actually... http://www.animalaid.org.uk/images/pdf/factfiles/wreck.pdfhttp://factoidz.com/give-up-red-meat-to-help-save-the-planet/ have you looked at how much land is used for large factory farms? and how much grain it really takes to feed the cows, etc? something to think about anyway.. I'm just going to say that I didn't read the links; not because I don't care but because I don't think it's necessary to read them for me to make my point of equivalent exchange. I know there is a lot of land used for factory farming, but it would take even more to raise organic livestock. It takes a lot of grain to feed the cows, but it would take a whole lot more land to feed them all grass. People don't want to give up meat. Growing large amounts of food organically would take a ridiculous amount of land to produce what we produce now because crop loss from pests, disease, drought, etc. would take a much heavier toll without pesticides and GMOs. I just don't see it as being feasible myself. Maybe it is, but coming from someone that has grown up on a farm, the son of farmers, I don't see it as feasible for the farmers or for the consumers. Costs would skyrocket. There has to be a trade-off: You either have factory farms condensed into a relatively small area and you use pesticides and GMOs, or you use huge amounts of land (and contend with the deforestation and habitat destruction that causes). I wasn't talking about organic livestock. I was talking about organic beans and lentils and oats and different grains. (Stuff you soak for so many hours to let out the phytic acid, ect) Other sources of proteins and whatnot.. Organic soy? *shrug* There'd be double the land mass and you'd get a lot more out of it as far as I could tell.. someone correct me if I'm wrong I still think that you would need the same amount of land (if not more) to grow organic vegan proteins as you would to raise farm animals, organic or not. Unless there's something I don't know about vegan protein that makes it far superior to animal protein in the production sense. I'd be very interested to see the data comparing yield and space and cost for the two very different types of farm.
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