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 Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 2:39 pm
Next month I am going to begin the process of Self-Initiation to Buckland's non-traditional form of Wicca, Seax-Wica.....yes I know it's not recognized as Wicca because it has rules that Buckland started. I know the history. I am not an idiot, so don't treat me like I am.
In my opinion Seax to Wicca in like Mormon to Christianity.
A lot of Christians don't consider Mormons Christian, and a lot of Wiccans don't consider Seax Wicca.
I get it. It is all clear to me now, thank you everyone whom I argued with for the past week or so. I am set in stone.
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Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 9:08 pm
Are you not interested in BTW Wicca? You could go and try that and actually be able to call yourself Wiccan without anyone arguing, lol.
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Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 11:36 pm
I dunno I just seem to agree with most that Buckland has said, why he made Seax and the beliefs. I still do have time to change my mind, but I don't think I will. I dunno.
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Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 9:48 pm
My advice is if you feel it do it, if you don't stay away and if you're not sure, well there's nothing wrong with taking time to find out more to see if it's the path for you. And paths change. Sometimes they stay on a similar course, and sometimes they veer waaaaay of to somewhere else and you go "how the hell did I get here?" But however it goes, if it feels right it probably is (this is not to be confused with "if it feels good it probably is" because things can feel good and not be so. Like eating a family size bag of potato chips in one sitting. It feels good yes, but it's not good for you.)
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Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 9:53 pm
yeah. I am still in a process of finding. and if I don't, well it was fun trying. I just don't want anyone telling me i'm wrong along the way. even if i am wrong.....i dunno people could be more polite.
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Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 9:56 pm
And more often than not it's the journey, not the destination, that truly matters in the end. For without the journey, we would not learn.
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Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 9:58 pm
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Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 10:01 pm
heart And with that jewel of wisdom, I bid you goodnight, for I think the sleepy time tea is working it's magical magic-y goodness, as I am actually sleepy. Hopefully I will actually fall asleep tonight. smile Good night, everyone, I wish you all pleasant dreams when you get there.
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Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 10:02 pm
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Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 7:22 am
KasaChan yeah. I am still in a process of finding. and if I don't, well it was fun trying. I just don't want anyone telling me i'm wrong along the way. even if i am wrong.....i dunno people could be more polite. Just gotta keep an open mind and be ready for whatever comes your way! biggrin
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Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 11:50 am
I've a few questions.
First of all, who here accepts that Gardner created Wicca?
And second of all, from those who accept it, who would be more willing to call themselves something else if there was another religion/title/whatnot available to call yourself?
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Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 12:11 pm
this will be the last I have to say on this subject. Quoted from wikipedia: Quote: The Wicca Movement Gardner's greatest influence was that upon the creation of the Neopagan religion of Wicca. Gardner claimed he did not invent the religion, but discovered it through the New Forest Coven, who initiated them into their ranks in 1939. He went on to publicise the religion, gaining new converts, and forming the tradition of Gardnerian Wicca, which provided a basis for many other forms of Wicca.
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Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 12:39 pm
That says he created it, but doesn't take credit for it. neutral
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Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 11:18 pm
i'm not sure, i'm still fairly new to witchcraft. but in my opinion everyone should be treated equally regardless of status.
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Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 6:39 am
KasaChan Next month I am going to begin the process of Self-Initiation to Buckland's non-traditional form of Wicca, Seax-Wica.....yes I know it's not recognized as Wicca because it has rules that Buckland started. I know the history. I am not an idiot, so don't treat me like I am.
In my opinion Seax to Wicca in like Mormon to Christianity.
A lot of Christians don't consider Mormons Christian, and a lot of Wiccans don't consider Seax Wicca.
I get it. It is all clear to me now, thank you everyone whom I argued with for the past week or so. I am set in stone.
The rest is just semantics over this word "wicca" I know Btws who say that they're valid because they do things exactly Gardner's way, just don't have the initiated line back to him. I know BTW's who say that they have lineage back to Garner they just incorporate different Gods and Goddesses. There are hundreds of people out there lying about their lineage, who can really know for sure. I know British Traditionalists who are no more spiritual (and in some cases less) than people who proudly say they learned out of books.
Are you a better person for your studies?
I do believe there need to be standards, but I don't think they can be set here. I don't think you can buy a Silver Ravenwolf book and a pentacle and then call yourself Wiccan because you say so, but unfortunately we just don't have hard and set rules. The line is very thick and very grey where wicca starts and ends (unless you are one of those who say lineage back to Gardner end of story)
I think it is time that Wiccans realize that the word is acceptable for others to use. Call yourselves Gardnerians if you believe your lineage is true, but more harm than good is being done by discounting the true magick of others because of this word you are clinging to.
I applaud you on becoming Seax Wiccan, good luck in your endeavors. Be proud. I have had the good fortune of meeting Raymond Buckland several times (he lives here in Ohio) he is a highly spiritual man and wise human being.
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