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Yes, when there is no other water |
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Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 2:58 pm
Your personal sob story is not equal to fluoride not having any good effects... but I get the point.
What do we need to do to stop the fluoride? Boycott the water company? Good luck with that...
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Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 8:22 pm
On the note of cavities: Allegedly, fluoride rinses help remineralize the teeth in order to prevent cavities. The official story is that once you get a cavity there's nothing that you can really do about it but get it fixed. That said, I read this guy's account of his cavities filling themselves in. I think the guy has a doctorate in engineering or something like that, but he's on the "caveman diet". If I'm remembering right, when he has tooth problems he just ups his calcium and magnesium intake (via supplements). I think this is it: http://rawpaleodiet.vpinf.com/dental-regeneration-1.html
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Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 2:00 am
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/07/20/indian-children-blinded-crippled-by-fluoride-in-water.aspx
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/07/01/paul-connett-interview.aspx
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Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 1:17 pm
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Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 7:44 pm
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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 6:51 pm
Sciamancer Your personal sob story is not equal to fluoride not having any good effects... but I get the point. Are you retarded? Your post had nothing to do with anything I said, I think you were posting just to post. Sob story? Are you kidding me? It's a ******** tooth ache.
@TrutherMei: I had been using the strongest oragel they make to no effect. Also, why is it good to use that, but fluoride is bad? The main ingredient, Benzocaine, can cause quite a few problems as well if over used.
For pain relief, basically the fluoride does the same thing as oragel, with the added benefit of the supposed remineralization. I've also read a similar account of someone who fixed his teeth without using fluoride or getting drilled, but I don't have that kind of dedication.
For results: I started using the fluoride rinse (which is prescription, so that means they are admitting it's dangerous if not used in a controlled manner), and after a few days it started working. I still don't plan on using that side to chew until I get it fixed. So far so good anyway, no more pain unless I mess with the cavity.
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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 7:29 pm
I just know, if I go a while without using fluoride tp, my teeth actually start to hurt. heh But it has to be "minimal" fluoride, or else it actually has the opposite effect for some reason. I just wish it was easier to find a "tooth paste", that's cheap, without glycerin or sls which contains a tad bit of fluoride. Sls really messes with me, seriously. It's bad for the environment and I believe it's what makes my mouth foam ALL day long, sometimes even for days after brushing my teeth. It's terrible. And I can't find any toothpastes under 6$ without it, which also use a tiny bit of fluoride. Glycerin, I've heard, messes with reenamilization, and is in all toothpastes I've seen, vegetable based or not.
I've heard of baking soda and peroxide are a bit abrasive, and from the taste I probably wouldn't be able to stand it. Maybe I should try adding peppermint drops and see what happens? Maybe the bakingsoda will help remeneralize the same? Or maybe not?
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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 8:16 pm
I use baking soda to brush, and every once in a while I will swish a peroxide solution. I also keep my toothbrush in the same solution to kill germs. Careful with the peroxide though, in large amounts it can be very dangerous, although it's usually sold diluted, to use it orally any way, you should dilute it further. As for the taste of baking soda, you get used to it. My mouth actually feels less fresh when I use normal toothpaste now.
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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 9:58 pm
Up until about a month ago I went two or three years without using any toothpaste at all. I still brushed and flossed; I just didn't use toothpaste. In the beginning I used baking soda but I came out of that habit. In subsequent professional cleanings/checkups the dentist didn't find any cavities.
Recently I've gone back to using a toothpaste that has baking soda and peroxide in it because I want whiter teeth. I'm not sure if it really makes me teeth feel any cleaner than just brushing does. It is whitening them though. biggrin
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Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 3:17 am
http://www.tomsofmaine.com/products/toothpaste/product-detail/clean-and-gentle-care-sls-free-antiplaque-plus-whitening-fluoride-free-toothpaste
This is what I use: http://usa.weleda.com/our-products/shop/plant-gel-toothpaste.aspx
but you're right, they both have Glycerin
I'm also very interested in trying a "Salvadora persica toothbrush", they are twigs that have been used for centuries.
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Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 6:11 am
I'd use that kind if I could, really. I'm using the Tom's Of Maine w/fluoride for myself right now, but I can't seem to find the kind without sls in my stores nearby. And I just don't have the money to pay outrageous shipping for online stuff. With their shipping, I could've bought two of their sls free pastes in person. Like I said, I don't think that fluoride is necessarily a poison, just like everything, it's when it's used in excess. Like, I don't believe it should be used in our freaking drinking water. I hate that. It's proven that there's absolutely no difference when it's ingested like that. But if I don't cover my teeth in fluoride for just a little bit, every so often, they really do start to get sensitive. I've tried it before with KMF toothpastes. I had to eventually switch to alternating that, and some other kind that contained fluoride.
Of course, I don't know how many of you all see dentists on a normal basis or anything or if you decide to go with their plans or not, but I don't have insurance or the money to go in the first place to actually do anything else preventative.
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Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 9:00 pm
I usually get a professional dental checkup once a year but didn't this year just because I forgot to schedule. I don't really see the benefit in paying out of pocket for more than that as I don't even really like to go that much and I just want someone that does that for a living to tell me that there are no serious problems going on. Whatever I'm doing seems to be working so I'm going to stick with it.
As an aside, Mei mentioned twigs as a toothbrush. I've read that hazel twigs make good toothbrushes once you chew the ends a while to fray them out. Survival knowledge, GO!
You can also use wood ashes in lieu of toothpaste but you have to be kind of careful with that. Hardwood ash will whiten your teeth because of the potassium hydroxide, but it can also damage your teeth if you use it too often. You should know that potassium hydroxide is more commonly known as lye. Therefore use it with caution. Only hardwood ash contains significant amounts of potassium hydroxide. Soap used to be made by leaching the lye out of hardwood ash and mixing it with rendered fat. Another survival hygiene tip!
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Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 9:10 pm
I have a question. Since Sodium Flouride is considered a poison in this forum.
My question, is that why the Brand-name, Crest, makes me sick to my stomach after using it then sometimes vomiting my own stomach acids?
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Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 10:23 pm
The True Prince I have a question. Since Sodium Flouride is considered a poison in this forum. My question, is that why the Brand-name, Crest, makes me sick to my stomach after using it then sometimes vomiting my own stomach acids? If I brush my teeth on an empty stomach it sometimes makes my stomach upset. It might have very little to do with the actual toothpaste. Unless it only happens to you with Crest, but not with other toothpastes?
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Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 6:58 am
I'd say it might be the artificial flavors added combined with using that around the back of your mouth where the gag reflex is. If it's only with Crest. I hate the taste of saccharine and artificial mint, makes me gag.
I think there's a lot worse in most commercial toothpastes than just the fluoride, tbh.
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