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Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 8:30 pm
Gay Marriage is unnatural. How a person of the same sex is attracted by another person with the same sex is beyond me.
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Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 8:03 am
you don't have to get it....just stay out of the way of those that do.
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Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 9:54 pm
Generation Prince Gay Marriage is unnatural. How a person of the same sex is attracted by another person with the same sex is beyond me. The definition of natural is something that can be done. Just because no baby is born from the bumping-of-uglies between them doesn't make it unnatural. Besides, you said gay MARRIAGE is unnatural which, clearly, did not make sense. ----------------------- On my opinion to the OP, I agree that a civil gay marriage should be allowed to all. A religious marriage I must say, however, should be decided by the church instead of the law.
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Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 10:08 pm
See I tottaly am fine with homosexual marrage between guys and guys or girls and girls I think It is wrong to shun them..
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Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 5:53 pm
PitifulSoulLostInDarkness This is a pressing matter here in the U.S. Should gays be able to get married??? State what you think here. Are strongly for it or strongly against it! I dub this...OPEN!!! Aside for the fact that I'm not in the US, I do take issue with that statement. With approximately 11 per cent of the global community being NOT hetrosexual (and thats a conservative estimate, seeing as lots of gay people deny their sexuality) I think its a big GLOBAL issue, not a US one. Personnally, I don't care. Yeah, I'm gay, but seriously, who cares if you're married? You shouldn't need a piece of paper to prove who you are. Marriage is a religous concept primarily, so I'm kinda "meh" towards it.
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Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 8:59 pm
I don't believe in gay marriage. Marriage is a religious joining, and a church should not be forced to do things that go against its religion. However, I am all for civil unions being made legal. I don't CARE why people are gay. I don't care if its hormones and can be fixed, or if you're born like that. However, everyone deserves to be happy.
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Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 1:02 am
Marriage, to most people, is a symbolic act Having little or nothing to do with religion And frequently a lot to do with legal or financial matters
so WHY THE HELL does the gender of those two people matter to ANYONE besides the person they're marrying? THAT is a MUCH better question then whether gay marriage is "right or wrong"
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Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 2:50 am
kitty in psychosis Marriage, to most people, is a symbolic act Having little or nothing to do with religion And frequently a lot to do with legal or financial matters so WHY THE HELL does the gender of those two people matter to ANYONE besides the person they're marrying? THAT is a MUCH better question then whether gay marriage is "right or wrong" Most people do not view it as a religious act, but it is. To even be married most ministers require that the couple meet with them on a few occasions, and that they must approve the marriage. If the minister finds that the couple is not suitable in his eyes, then he can refuse. Of course, you can always find someone who is willing to do it. My fiancée said I could do what I want with our wedding. He only has a few stipulations, one of them being that he wants the actual ceremony in a church. Although I am pagan, and a church holds no meaning to me, I really don't mind and have agreed to it. However, this may pose some issues in finding a church that is willing to marry us. However it is viewed by "most" people today really doesn't matter. It IS a religious act and one religion should not be forced to go against what they believe in.
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Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 3:28 am
Dragoness Arleeana kitty in psychosis Marriage, to most people, is a symbolic act Having little or nothing to do with religion And frequently a lot to do with legal or financial matters so WHY THE HELL does the gender of those two people matter to ANYONE besides the person they're marrying? THAT is a MUCH better question then whether gay marriage is "right or wrong" Most people do not view it as a religious act, but it is. To even be married most ministers require that the couple meet with them on a few occasions, and that they must approve the marriage. If the minister finds that the couple is not suitable in his eyes, then he can refuse. Of course, you can always find someone who is willing to do it. My fiancée said I could do what I want with our wedding. He only has a few stipulations, one of them being that he wants the actual ceremony in a church. Although I am pagan, and a church holds no meaning to me, I really don't mind and have agreed to it. However, this may pose some issues in finding a church that is willing to marry us. However it is viewed by "most" people today really doesn't matter. It IS a religious act and one religion should not be forced to go against what they believe in. That's why there should be some middle ground. Marriage should be legal to homosexuals everywhere as long as the church agrees to it. The state should not be involved in the matter at all, whether it's for or against marriage. However, this doesn't mean I want all religious marriages declined by churches, homosexuals deserve as much religious respect as anyone else if they are followers of the belief.
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Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 4:14 am
Captain_Shinzo Dragoness Arleeana kitty in psychosis Marriage, to most people, is a symbolic act Having little or nothing to do with religion And frequently a lot to do with legal or financial matters so WHY THE HELL does the gender of those two people matter to ANYONE besides the person they're marrying? THAT is a MUCH better question then whether gay marriage is "right or wrong" Most people do not view it as a religious act, but it is. To even be married most ministers require that the couple meet with them on a few occasions, and that they must approve the marriage. If the minister finds that the couple is not suitable in his eyes, then he can refuse. Of course, you can always find someone who is willing to do it. My fiancée said I could do what I want with our wedding. He only has a few stipulations, one of them being that he wants the actual ceremony in a church. Although I am pagan, and a church holds no meaning to me, I really don't mind and have agreed to it. However, this may pose some issues in finding a church that is willing to marry us. However it is viewed by "most" people today really doesn't matter. It IS a religious act and one religion should not be forced to go against what they believe in. That's why there should be some middle ground. Marriage should be legal to homosexuals everywhere as long as the church agrees to it. The state should not be involved in the matter at all, whether it's for or against marriage. However, this doesn't mean I want all religious marriages declined by churches, homosexuals deserve as much religious respect as anyone else if they are followers of the belief.They can follow the religion all they want, but if the church they wish to be married at frowns down on it, they shouldn't be forced to perform the ceremony. I very much think the state SHOULD be involved as a legal marriage OR civil union means certain legal rights are gained. There IS a middle ground. Civil unions, which I've already brought up. This would allow the couple to benefit from the same legal things that "married" couples do. Such as filing joint taxes. You can fill out the paper work/civil union licence and still have your ceremony however you want. All you need to be legally married is the license anyways. No one can stop you from having the kind of ceremony you want, unless of course you want to have it in a church that wont allow it.
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Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 7:37 am
Dragoness Arleeana kitty in psychosis Marriage, to most people, is a symbolic act Having little or nothing to do with religion And frequently a lot to do with legal or financial matters so WHY THE HELL does the gender of those two people matter to ANYONE besides the person they're marrying? THAT is a MUCH better question then whether gay marriage is "right or wrong" Most people do not view it as a religious act, but it is. To even be married most ministers require that the couple meet with them on a few occasions, and that they must approve the marriage. If the minister finds that the couple is not suitable in his eyes, then he can refuse. Of course, you can always find someone who is willing to do it. My fiancée said I could do what I want with our wedding. He only has a few stipulations, one of them being that he wants the actual ceremony in a church. Although I am pagan, and a church holds no meaning to me, I really don't mind and have agreed to it. However, this may pose some issues in finding a church that is willing to marry us. However it is viewed by "most" people today really doesn't matter. It IS a religious act and one religion should not be forced to go against what they believe in. aren't "most" people the ones getting married? they don't do it for a reason they don't understand, know, or care about
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Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 7:39 am
Dragoness Arleeana Captain_Shinzo Dragoness Arleeana kitty in psychosis Marriage, to most people, is a symbolic act Having little or nothing to do with religion And frequently a lot to do with legal or financial matters so WHY THE HELL does the gender of those two people matter to ANYONE besides the person they're marrying? THAT is a MUCH better question then whether gay marriage is "right or wrong" Most people do not view it as a religious act, but it is. To even be married most ministers require that the couple meet with them on a few occasions, and that they must approve the marriage. If the minister finds that the couple is not suitable in his eyes, then he can refuse. Of course, you can always find someone who is willing to do it. My fiancée said I could do what I want with our wedding. He only has a few stipulations, one of them being that he wants the actual ceremony in a church. Although I am pagan, and a church holds no meaning to me, I really don't mind and have agreed to it. However, this may pose some issues in finding a church that is willing to marry us. However it is viewed by "most" people today really doesn't matter. It IS a religious act and one religion should not be forced to go against what they believe in. That's why there should be some middle ground. Marriage should be legal to homosexuals everywhere as long as the church agrees to it. The state should not be involved in the matter at all, whether it's for or against marriage. However, this doesn't mean I want all religious marriages declined by churches, homosexuals deserve as much religious respect as anyone else if they are followers of the belief.They can follow the religion all they want, but if the church they wish to be married at frowns down on it, they shouldn't be forced to perform the ceremony. I very much think the state SHOULD be involved as a legal marriage OR civil union means certain legal rights are gained. There IS a middle ground. Civil unions, which I've already brought up. This would allow the couple to benefit from the same legal things that "married" couples do. Such as filing joint taxes. You can fill out the paper work/civil union licence and still have your ceremony however you want. All you need to be legally married is the license anyways. No one can stop you from having the kind of ceremony you want, unless of course you want to have it in a church that wont allow it. what's wrong with you? why do you seem to have such a problem with gays?
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Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 7:52 am
kitty in psychosis Dragoness Arleeana Captain_Shinzo Dragoness Arleeana kitty in psychosis Marriage, to most people, is a symbolic act Having little or nothing to do with religion And frequently a lot to do with legal or financial matters so WHY THE HELL does the gender of those two people matter to ANYONE besides the person they're marrying? THAT is a MUCH better question then whether gay marriage is "right or wrong" Most people do not view it as a religious act, but it is. To even be married most ministers require that the couple meet with them on a few occasions, and that they must approve the marriage. If the minister finds that the couple is not suitable in his eyes, then he can refuse. Of course, you can always find someone who is willing to do it. My fiancée said I could do what I want with our wedding. He only has a few stipulations, one of them being that he wants the actual ceremony in a church. Although I am pagan, and a church holds no meaning to me, I really don't mind and have agreed to it. However, this may pose some issues in finding a church that is willing to marry us. However it is viewed by "most" people today really doesn't matter. It IS a religious act and one religion should not be forced to go against what they believe in. That's why there should be some middle ground. Marriage should be legal to homosexuals everywhere as long as the church agrees to it. The state should not be involved in the matter at all, whether it's for or against marriage. However, this doesn't mean I want all religious marriages declined by churches, homosexuals deserve as much religious respect as anyone else if they are followers of the belief.They can follow the religion all they want, but if the church they wish to be married at frowns down on it, they shouldn't be forced to perform the ceremony. I very much think the state SHOULD be involved as a legal marriage OR civil union means certain legal rights are gained. There IS a middle ground. Civil unions, which I've already brought up. This would allow the couple to benefit from the same legal things that "married" couples do. Such as filing joint taxes. You can fill out the paper work/civil union licence and still have your ceremony however you want. All you need to be legally married is the license anyways. No one can stop you from having the kind of ceremony you want, unless of course you want to have it in a church that wont allow it. what's wrong with you? why do you seem to have such a problem with gays? You're...kidding me right? Stop with the personal attacks, they are uncalled for, and there is nothing "wrong" with me. I have nothing against gays, and support gay civil unions. I have said that everyone deserves the right to be happy. However, I do not believe it is right to force a religion to do something that they are against. That is not fair. However, if civil unions were legal, which is the same LEGALLY as a marriage, that would be an even middle ground. The church wouldn't be forced to go against their beliefs, and a gay couple would still be allowed to have the same legal rights as every other couple. Of course, if you can find a church that Is willing to do it, kudos to you. Either way, marriage/civil union, it is the same in the end, with both parties happy. I think the state should be involved in the overall decision of this. The state is who is going to have to decide whether or not they will allow gay civil unions. I think this should be the extent of it though. Separation of Church and State means that both should not be governed by on party. I thoroughly believe in this. That is why I do not think the State should in any way be forcing something onto any religion or church. Civil Unions are an equal middle ground, that the church would have no say in. I have just restated my entire side on this, which I REALLY hate having to do. Where have I even ONCE even HINTED at having a problem with gays?
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Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 9:31 am
Dragoness Arleeana kitty in psychosis Dragoness Arleeana Captain_Shinzo Dragoness Arleeana kitty in psychosis Marriage, to most people, is a symbolic act Having little or nothing to do with religion And frequently a lot to do with legal or financial matters so WHY THE HELL does the gender of those two people matter to ANYONE besides the person they're marrying? THAT is a MUCH better question then whether gay marriage is "right or wrong" Most people do not view it as a religious act, but it is. To even be married most ministers require that the couple meet with them on a few occasions, and that they must approve the marriage. If the minister finds that the couple is not suitable in his eyes, then he can refuse. Of course, you can always find someone who is willing to do it. My fiancée said I could do what I want with our wedding. He only has a few stipulations, one of them being that he wants the actual ceremony in a church. Although I am pagan, and a church holds no meaning to me, I really don't mind and have agreed to it. However, this may pose some issues in finding a church that is willing to marry us. However it is viewed by "most" people today really doesn't matter. It IS a religious act and one religion should not be forced to go against what they believe in. That's why there should be some middle ground. Marriage should be legal to homosexuals everywhere as long as the church agrees to it. The state should not be involved in the matter at all, whether it's for or against marriage. However, this doesn't mean I want all religious marriages declined by churches, homosexuals deserve as much religious respect as anyone else if they are followers of the belief.They can follow the religion all they want, but if the church they wish to be married at frowns down on it, they shouldn't be forced to perform the ceremony. I very much think the state SHOULD be involved as a legal marriage OR civil union means certain legal rights are gained. There IS a middle ground. Civil unions, which I've already brought up. This would allow the couple to benefit from the same legal things that "married" couples do. Such as filing joint taxes. You can fill out the paper work/civil union licence and still have your ceremony however you want. All you need to be legally married is the license anyways. No one can stop you from having the kind of ceremony you want, unless of course you want to have it in a church that wont allow it. what's wrong with you? why do you seem to have such a problem with gays? You're...kidding me right? Stop with the personal attacks, they are uncalled for, and there is nothing "wrong" with me. I have nothing against gays, and support gay civil unions. I have said that everyone deserves the right to be happy. However, I do not believe it is right to force a religion to do something that they are against. That is not fair. However, if civil unions were legal, which is the same LEGALLY as a marriage, that would be an even middle ground. The church wouldn't be forced to go against their beliefs, and a gay couple would still be allowed to have the same legal rights as every other couple. Of course, if you can find a church that Is willing to do it, kudos to you. Either way, marriage/civil union, it is the same in the end, with both parties happy. I think the state should be involved in the overall decision of this. The state is who is going to have to decide whether or not they will allow gay civil unions. I think this should be the extent of it though. Separation of Church and State means that both should not be governed by on party. I thoroughly believe in this. That is why I do not think the State should in any way be forcing something onto any religion or church. Civil Unions are an equal middle ground, that the church would have no say in. I have just restated my entire side on this, which I REALLY hate having to do. Where have I even ONCE even HINTED at having a problem with gays? you seem constantly on the offensive with this subject Which itself hints at intolerance or disgust for the group of people being discussed And my personal belief about churches is that they need to realize that people's way of thinking has changed And the churches, being intolerant to so much, are doing society no good In reality they're only holding it back
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