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Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 5:48 am
divineseraph technically, we're fourth dimensional as we exist in another direction- time. Quantum theory seems like a load to me- a lot of it assumes that the math IS the reality, when really it's an abstract measure of probability. Essentially, it states that a photon can be in multiple places a la probability. True enough. It forgets, however, that probability is an abstraction and assumes that it is a tangible thing, and that their equations equal out to reality. Roughly speaking, they're saying that since a coin can be either heads or tails, if we don't know, it must be both head AND tails until we find out. That coin analogy is way off. I think you're misunderstanding what quantum theory actually states. It describes the very nature of matter. A photon, for example, actually DOES exist in all its possible states, until observed. There's an experiment (saw a lecture about it on youtube, can't remember the name) that, using some prisms, shows that a photon actually goes in 2 directions at the same time. Similar is the widely known double slit experiment, which show the wave nature of particles.
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Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 10:44 pm
Richard Dawkins is one of my heroes. I think the atheist community needs a powerful voice, and we got one.
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Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 8:41 am
Mei tsuki7 Nebulance Jewpanesey Not to mention the fact that if you can disprove the existence of god(s) with science (which he has), then it is no longer a philosophical debate but a statement of observable fact. You cannot disprove something which is outside the realm of science, with science. God would exist as part of a separate, spiritual reality. God is a higher dimensional creature and therefore our three dimensional science does not apply to him. @OP I have not heard of him. Could you link some good speeches? I could say I have dancing lung fairies living in my a**s that you can't see because they are made up of super-natural anti-matter like Cthulhu but that doesn't make it true. Seriously, your god can't do everything. If he exists, he can be proven. If he doesn't exist, limitless stories can be made to fooling people he does exist. It's that simple. It's like telling a child Santa exist and he has no way of finding out he doesn't exist.
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Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 9:54 am
Dawkins was the final straw. Watching and reading his stuff is what showed me just how illogical my belief was. I believe that Dawkins is a hero and a great spokesperson for the atheist community and I really respect him deeply for having the courage to stand up against religion.
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WickedRentSpringAwakening
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Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 9:58 pm
Dawkins is good at what his specialized field is: evolutionary biology. He makes a fool of himself when attempting to discuss religion. Like most of the "new atheists," he oversimplifies the subject of religion, which quite frankly as a scientist, he should KNOW better than to do.
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Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 12:56 pm
Starlock Dawkins is good at what his specialized field is: evolutionary biology. He makes a fool of himself when attempting to discuss religion. Like most of the "new atheists," he oversimplifies the subject of religion, which quite frankly as a scientist, he should KNOW better than to do. He is an evolutionary biologist yes. He came to religion because of the primary case against evolution, the so called creation science, which of course led him to religion. He discusses religion very well. Read his books about the subject and watch his documentaries. He knows what he is talking about and does so using the scientific method. If he over simplifies religion that is because religion can be an extremely simple topic. People just want to make it seem bigger and more complex than it really is.
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Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 4:28 pm
He discusses certain aspects of religion well, but not all of them. He is not a scholar of religious studies, and while I understand his frustration with the small segment of certain religious groups that naysays evolutionary theory and opposes science, it hardly describes all religious groups. I have looked at some of his books on the subject, and like pretty much all the books I've looked at by the "new atheists" it does oversimplify religion because it targets Abrahamic faiths and ignores everything else (often, also, cherry picking the worst extremes of the Abrahamic faiths and ignoring the moderates); it overgeneralizes. As a scientist he should know better.
If you don't think religion is complicated, no offense, but you haven't studied it enough. I used to think it was simple too. Then I actually started studying it. I suppose from a certain point of view you could call it "simple" but it's a little too easy to poke holes in some of the arguments made by the "new atheists" because they overgeneralize. sweatdrop
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Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 2:19 pm
Dawkins lays it on too thick in my opinion. When arguing with people I'm only mean and sarcastic if they're being mean or ridiculous first.
You can't try to build and understanding with other people by acting hostile.
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Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 4:54 am
I think dawkins is a monster. He takes the momentum in the LGBT rights movement and uses it to fuel religious intolerance. I haven't read this so called "genius" book of his yet, but all the arguments I have heard from him have been "I'm right and you're wrong so shut up and get over it" ridiculous rantings. He seems like every other preacher hell bent on conversion and stamping out religion in our society. His bullshit argument about conditioning makes me twitch. I am a sterile male to female transsexual who worships fertility gods, how the hell is that conditioned into me? Atheism is perfectly valid I have no proof for my beliefs but so far I'm still convinced that "new atheism" is just the old atheism with more open intolerance towards other religions. I hate him so much and I'm scared to let myself give into it and direct my hatred at atheists in general and become exactly the kind of monster he is.
Not to mention the fact that he acts like self claimed prophet with the right given to him by gods he is sure do not exist, to stamp out religion everywhere in our society because clearly religion is always evil without exception. Atheists are valid, but they don't get empirical proprietary rights to intelligence, science, deduction or reason, dawkins is going to have to learn to share if ever wants to stop being an a*****e.
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Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 10:55 am
Adalyna I think dawkins is a monster. He takes the momentum in the LGBT rights movement and uses it to fuel religious intolerance. I haven't read this so called "genius" book of his yet, but all the arguments I have heard from him have been "I'm right and you're wrong so shut up and get over it" ridiculous rantings. He seems like every other preacher hell bent on conversion and stamping out religion in our society. His bullshit argument about conditioning makes me twitch. I am a sterile male to female transsexual who worships fertility gods, how the hell is that conditioned into me? Atheism is perfectly valid I have no proof for my beliefs but so far I'm still convinced that "new atheism" is just the old atheism with more open intolerance towards other religions. I hate him so much and I'm scared to let myself give into it and direct my hatred at atheists in general and become exactly the kind of monster he is. Not to mention the fact that he acts like self claimed prophet with the right given to him by gods he is sure do not exist, to stamp out religion everywhere in our society because clearly religion is always evil without exception. Atheists are valid, but they don't get empirical proprietary rights to intelligence, science, deduction or reason, dawkins is going to have to learn to share if ever wants to stop being an a*****e. hmm..'empirical proprietary rights to intelligence, science, deduction or reason' I like the way you put that, I'm not sure what the first half means but it rolls off the tongue pretty well. They do act like they have a monopoly over those things a lot of the time. It gets old and tiring after a while. You should go hang around atheists who aren't like that because a lot of them aren't and then maybe you'll be able to even out your perception of them. Besides, hatred isn't good for your health xp I still like Dawkins, I think he's a complete a** he's a scientist and has no place talking about religion and theology but he's funny, a bit high and mighty but still fun to listen to.
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