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 Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 9:43 pm
Hino Recca Transformers Wiki Airazor's gender in the Hasbro line is due to Beast Wars story editors Bob Forward and Larry DiTillio's insistence. The original Airazor toy wasn't developed with a specific gender in mind, and Bob & Larry wanted a larger female presence in the show, and the Airazor toy seemed as good a choice as any. They requested the change early enough that the toy's packaging bio could have its pronouns changed to female (thank god). The later Transmetal version of Airazor was the first American-released Transformer mold created to represent a female character. Nng, it explains it, but not by much. :/ I mean, the character mold for the show had allready been given feminine features. (Maybe not a huge rack, ala Blackarachnia, but then, not all females must have huge hooters to be female). Considering how long it takes to make a dub versus make a fully CG series, I think they switched her to a guy just to be goofy. That's just as logical an explanation as any, really. though I guess Hasbra America got their revenge by making Override in Cybertron a girl. *shrug*
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Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 11:15 pm
DevilsLight Yamato1 Pumkinn BogiePop Yamato1 DevilsLight In the Jap version she is a he smile of course then we need to figure out which came first... American or Jap smile American. It was released in North America in 1995, and in Japan in 1997. They also turned the entire series into a joke, adding goofy sound effects and various gags. If I recall correctly, Megatron shrieked like a little girl, Depth Charge was a folk singer, and Rattrap could smell what the audience was eating, and always wanted some. And Optimus Primal occasionally asking "where is my banana?" many people were unhappy with this dub, lol. that sounds funny as s**t id watch BW Megatron was a little gay shrieking like a little girl might work with him
Lol! I thought Beast Wars was funny anyway! I'd watch the jap version...If I could. I've tried. Couldn't find any and when I did it didn't have Eng subtitles and since I no hablo Japanese....
But Airazor was dude huh? In that Jap version I mean...Was that the only gender swapping going on?It wouldn't have surprised me if they had swapped Terrorsaur. He seemed a bit feminine in build, and since it's ALL about the build apparently... rolleyes Terrorsaur had boobs? o.O how come I didn't notice them! In any case we should definitely find a link to clips or something of the Jap version with subs so that we can see what is being dub over there. And we thought bootleg was crappy lol.
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Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 5:52 pm
Pumkinn Is it just me or is every Femme character created, in comics or cartoons, just really lame personality wise?
Its like they come in three models:
(I had to edit this in order not to swear so I hope you'll understand my meaning as I attempt to find a Cybertronian equivalent)
Glitch
Killer Glitch
or Crazy...I'll say Pleasure Model.
What is the point of a femme anyway? Where the creators trying to draw in a female audience? Or just make the Cybertronians seem less gay for having an all "male" species?
I thought gender was a state of mind for giant alain robots? Why do they have BOOBS! They don't even serve a purpose! At least have them shoot lasers or bombs or something! That at least would be epic as well as LMAO funny! rofl
But NO! They have BOOBS that do nothing except serve to say "Hey! Look at these! I'm a Femme!" which is kind of retarded because if you're going to do that you might as well give them sex definite genitals like humans do and just forget the gender of the mind thing.
Which would suck slag! Because personally, one of the things I loved about Cybertronian culture was the fact that gender was a state of mind and not a physical state of being. I loved that all bots where essentially either asexual or hermaphrodites for all the good genitals might do them! And then along came the FEMMES! And Fragged it all up for me and my inner childhood happy fantasy land of metal and steampunkery! ARGH!
...Anyone else feel that way? Don't worry. I feel exactly the same as you do. There shouldn't be genders. I'm all for some looking "feminine" but then giving them girly voices and "feminine" colors just annoys me.
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Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 6:07 pm
i hate overdrive from cybertron she has the lags of a fem but the uperbody of a man shes like a trany of the transformers
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Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 11:31 am
Blame Cartoon Network, they're the ones that made her a girl, she was supposed to be a guy. That's one of the reasons I liked Galaxy Force better than Cybertron.
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Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 2:09 am
Pumkinn Magni Prime I am sure that there are fem Decepticons . . . as to why or why not there even should be feminine transformers- I say why not? They are living mechs, and if any are male, then there should be females as well.
Given that Cybertronians are not in fact "male" in the sense that we understand it there most certainly does not have to be any kind of feminine equivalent.
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Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 2:17 am
voice of reason for all Pumkinn Is it just me or is every Femme character created, in comics or cartoons, just really lame personality wise?
Its like they come in three models:
(I had to edit this in order not to swear so I hope you'll understand my meaning as I attempt to find a Cybertronian equivalent)
Glitch
Killer Glitch
or Crazy...I'll say Pleasure Model.
What is the point of a femme anyway? Where the creators trying to draw in a female audience? Or just make the Cybertronians seem less gay for having an all "male" species?
I thought gender was a state of mind for giant alain robots? Why do they have BOOBS! They don't even serve a purpose! At least have them shoot lasers or bombs or something! That at least would be epic as well as LMAO funny! rofl
But NO! They have BOOBS that do nothing except serve to say "Hey! Look at these! I'm a Femme!" which is kind of retarded because if you're going to do that you might as well give them sex definite genitals like humans do and just forget the gender of the mind thing.
Which would suck slag! Because personally, one of the things I loved about Cybertronian culture was the fact that gender was a state of mind and not a physical state of being. I loved that all bots where essentially either asexual or hermaphrodites for all the good genitals might do them! And then along came the FEMMES! And Fragged it all up for me and my inner childhood happy fantasy land of metal and steampunkery! ARGH!
...Anyone else feel that way? Don't worry. I feel exactly the same as you do. There shouldn't be genders. I'm all for some looking "feminine" but then giving them girly voices and "feminine" colors just annoys me.
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Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 1:01 pm
I never understood why Cybertronians need sexes if they don't sexually reproduce.
I'm not even entirely certain they have a sex, only a gender, which is also confusing but a little less so.
Is this something they are designed with? Or do they choose to identify with one gender over the other, and if so, how do they decide and when? And what are, if any, physical differences between the two gender, because not all of the femmes are small and sleek and not all of the mechs are large and bulky.
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Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 7:56 pm
As stated earlier, it all depends on the origin you're working with. If the Quintessons marketed them as consumer goods, they would have been given gender protocols to make them more appealing to their owners. If the Quintessons weren't involved, it could be the result of dealing with other cultures.
Or if you're going by the IDW continuity, gender differences were artificially created by Jhiaxus, just to see if he could.
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Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 11:58 am
there are some character traits that are view and geared to femininity, witch would seem missed placed or down right inappropriate on a male like character.
Gen 1 Arcee is basically the motherly archetype, could you imagine BB or Springer watching over Daniel the same way she did talk2hand
Blackarachnia/Airachnid and Starscreem sher alot of the same traits. throughout history females were not seen as a str8 up threat, gearing more to under handed tactics, like poisons, that men just couldint do to "honor codes" and such.
not being sexist
if you try replace any fembot with a manbot to do the same role it would just be odd and out of place
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Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 7:05 pm
BogiePop there are some character traits that are view and geared to femininity, witch would seem missed placed or down right inappropriate on a male like character. Gen 1 Arcee is basically the motherly archetype, could you imagine BB or Springer watching over Daniel the same way she did talk2hand Blackarachnia/Airachnid and Starscreem sher alot of the same traits. throughout history females were not seen as a str8 up threat, gearing more to under handed tactics, like poisons, that men just couldint do to "honor codes" and such. not being sexist if you try replace any fembot with a manbot to do the same role it would just be odd and out of place Its seems like the only dif between mechs and femmes are based off entirely sexist generalizations. Although...Bulkhead in the new TF razz is probably the most nurturing of the lot of the Autobots.
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Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 10:26 pm
Skadi Sundermount BogiePop there are some character traits that are view and geared to femininity, witch would seem missed placed or down right inappropriate on a male like character. Gen 1 Arcee is basically the motherly archetype, could you imagine BB or Springer watching over Daniel the same way she did talk2hand Blackarachnia/Airachnid and Starscreem sher alot of the same traits. throughout history females were not seen as a str8 up threat, gearing more to under handed tactics, like poisons, that men just couldint do to "honor codes" and such. not being sexist if you try replace any fembot with a manbot to do the same role it would just be odd and out of place Its seems like the only dif between mechs and femmes are based off entirely sexist generalizations. Although...Bulkhead in the new TF razz is probably the most nurturing of the lot of the Autobots. i dont see Bulkhead as nurturing on prime, jakes mother fills that roll, bullhead is the kindhearted big guy archetype
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Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 9:05 pm
BogiePop Skadi Sundermount BogiePop there are some character traits that are view and geared to femininity, witch would seem missed placed or down right inappropriate on a male like character. Gen 1 Arcee is basically the motherly archetype, could you imagine BB or Springer watching over Daniel the same way she did talk2hand Blackarachnia/Airachnid and Starscreem sher alot of the same traits. throughout history females were not seen as a str8 up threat, gearing more to under handed tactics, like poisons, that men just couldint do to "honor codes" and such. not being sexist if you try replace any fembot with a manbot to do the same role it would just be odd and out of place Its seems like the only dif between mechs and femmes are based off entirely sexist generalizations. Although...Bulkhead in the new TF razz is probably the most nurturing of the lot of the Autobots. i dont see Bulkhead as nurturing on prime, jakes mother fills that roll, bullhead is the kindhearted big guy archetype His relationship with Miko strikes me as very fatherly. The way he treats the other kids also seems very caring and protective.
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Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 3:52 pm
Skadi Sundermount BogiePop Skadi Sundermount BogiePop there are some character traits that are view and geared to femininity, witch would seem missed placed or down right inappropriate on a male like character. Gen 1 Arcee is basically the motherly archetype, could you imagine BB or Springer watching over Daniel the same way she did talk2hand Blackarachnia/Airachnid and Starscreem sher alot of the same traits. throughout history females were not seen as a str8 up threat, gearing more to under handed tactics, like poisons, that men just couldint do to "honor codes" and such. not being sexist if you try replace any fembot with a manbot to do the same role it would just be odd and out of place Its seems like the only dif between mechs and femmes are based off entirely sexist generalizations. Although...Bulkhead in the new TF razz is probably the most nurturing of the lot of the Autobots. i dont see Bulkhead as nurturing on prime, jakes mother fills that roll, bullhead is the kindhearted big guy archetype His relationship with Miko strikes me as very fatherly. The way he treats the other kids also seems very caring and protective. i see your your point, but to me bulkhead (and BB to) comes off like a big brother, hes your friend and will watch out for you, much like a father figure, but in my opinion Prime and ratchet are fatherly types, there rolls are to guide and protect, less there to be your friend and more to insure the safety of the "family". Father = leader Family = team
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Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 7:14 pm
BogiePop Skadi Sundermount BogiePop Skadi Sundermount BogiePop there are some character traits that are view and geared to femininity, witch would seem missed placed or down right inappropriate on a male like character. Gen 1 Arcee is basically the motherly archetype, could you imagine BB or Springer watching over Daniel the same way she did talk2hand Blackarachnia/Airachnid and Starscreem sher alot of the same traits. throughout history females were not seen as a str8 up threat, gearing more to under handed tactics, like poisons, that men just couldint do to "honor codes" and such. not being sexist if you try replace any fembot with a manbot to do the same role it would just be odd and out of place Its seems like the only dif between mechs and femmes are based off entirely sexist generalizations. Although...Bulkhead in the new TF razz is probably the most nurturing of the lot of the Autobots. i dont see Bulkhead as nurturing on prime, jakes mother fills that roll, bullhead is the kindhearted big guy archetype His relationship with Miko strikes me as very fatherly. The way he treats the other kids also seems very caring and protective. i see your your point, but to me bulkhead (and BB to) comes off like a big brother, hes your friend and will watch out for you, much like a father figure, but in my opinion Prime and ratchet are fatherly types, there rolls are to guide and protect, less there to be your friend and more to insure the safety of the "family". Father = leader Family = team Ratchet reminds me more of a disgruntled uncle. xp
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