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Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 11:00 am
Shadows-shine No it doesn't matter. It only bothers me when I see it over done. I don't mind if I see a few things that have to do with religion in a public place. I've just been to places where it's way over done. I don't think I ever have been to any place where it was overdone, I think it would only bother me if people started to get all angry and start blowing their top because I don't believe what they do. That would irritate me, so if they have multiple religious symbols and in conjunction with that expect me to believe what they do, I would not be too happy.
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Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 12:57 pm
Semiremis Shadows-shine No it doesn't matter. It only bothers me when I see it over done. I don't mind if I see a few things that have to do with religion in a public place. I've just been to places where it's way over done. I don't think I ever have been to any place where it was overdone, I think it would only bother me if people started to get all angry and start blowing their top because I don't believe what they do. That would irritate me, so if they have multiple religious symbols and in conjunction with that expect me to believe what they do, I would not be too happy. I can't recall if I have either. I agree with you. I would get upset if I was expected to follow what some one else believed just because I walked into their place of business and they blew their top about it.
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Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 3:37 pm
I think everyone being more accepting would help. You don't have to convert, or listen to someone trying to convert you. Still, everyone is looking for fulfillment and happiness, and whatever religion brings you that you are more than welcome to, as far as I am concerned. Everyone has their rights.
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Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 8:07 pm
I firmly believe in religious tolerance, as long as my faith is equally and respectfully tolerated.
What I am against is such things as the WCC and the strong pull towards Ecumenism which tries to unite all by sacrificing Faith Doctrines. I believe in Ecumenical dialogue but not at the sacrifice of Doctrine.
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Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 12:34 pm
quietstorm 2 If it goes against the word of GOD I avoid it. In my line of work I did'nt have a choice.I did'n allow it to interfere in my belief. There are some that will never believe the way Christians do and as a result all I can do is pray about it, and continue to stand for what I do know. heart Amen heart
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Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 7:55 pm
I really haven't read what anyone else said, but here's a good point.
We can be vehement on our stances of politics and other matters such as macs vs windows, but almost any religious conversation becomes hostile and "offensive." Religion shouldn't have an automatic barrier around it. It should be open to discussion and if someone thinks religion is wrong, that person should act to stop it. How tolerant you are of other religions just reflects how much you care about the issue.
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Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 8:43 pm
I think religious tolerance is key to peace. Getting rid of religion entirely isn't really practical. Religion is an extension of one's personal beliefs and convictions. Even if we abolished the term "religion" groups of people sharing beliefs and motives would still emerge, so we would still have religions. Just without a name to define them.
However, if we tolerate other people's beliefs then we are able to get along better. We wouldn't end up fighting as often over a mere difference of opinion. Actions are what matter, not motives or philosophies. If someone does something that one doesn't think is morally right, then one has every right to get upset over it. Not out of malice towards the offender's religeon, but out of detest for what the offender is doing.
In other words, actions are what matter, not beliefs.
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Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 9:47 pm
i'll tolerate you if you tolerate me.
freedom of conscience is terribly important.
if you force someone to comply with your point of view, you have not gained a believer, but a slave.
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Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 6:17 pm
I think there will always be religious intolerance as long as there are those that believe their way is the only way. We fight wars based on religious beliefs and use religion to justify our hatred of those that are different from us. Until we become truly enlightened, we won't live in a world with true religious tolerance.
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Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 11:55 am
I believe in it. It's hard to achieve with the varying religions though. I can understand disagreeing with others, but not looking down on them. Likewise, I can see being sad that others don't agree with you or what you do, but not attacking the other party as being biast and close minded for not agreeing.
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Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 12:35 pm
I can tolerate beliefs but actions are different. I'm not going to tolerate you murdering me just because it's your religious mandate.
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Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 1:32 pm
In Medias Res IV quietstorm 2 If it goes against the word of GOD I avoid it. In my line of work I did'nt have a choice.I did'n allow it to interfere in my belief. There are some that will never believe the way Christians do and as a result all I can do is pray about it, and continue to stand for what I do know. What would go against the word of G-d? Let's use me as an example. I'm a lesbian, I swear, I will drink, I occasionally take drugs, I don't believe ha-Satan is evil, I don't believe in Original Sin, I loathe Christians who quote the Tanakh and misuse it to support their own bigotry, I deny Jesus as my personal saviour. Am I someone who you will avoid? Will you pray for me? But I'm religious, devoutly so. As long as you act within love for yourself and your neighbor, I have no qualms. Also, how is avoiding you a loving thing? And I pray for everybody.
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Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 8:02 pm
I think Abrahamic religions are doomed by the simple fact that they do not acknowledge each-other. Their mutual intolerance will cause them to gradually dismantle each-other.
Most other religions can and should be relatively tolerant towards each-other.
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Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 10:52 pm
almisami I think Abrahamic religions are doomed by the simple fact that they do not acknowledge each-other. Their mutual intolerance will cause them to gradually dismantle each-other. I don't really agree with this for one simple reason. There are factions in Christianity that acknowledge the Jews to still count as YHVH's chosen people, and that, one way or another, they'll be saved as long as they stick to the old laws, it's not a stance I'm inclined to agree with, but it's one that exists. Also, the Quran itself acknowledges the "People of the book" i.e. Christians and Jews as being groups that should be left to coexist with peacefully. The groups are generally intolerant of each-other at the moment, but this has a lot more to do with deeply ingrained cultural conflicts spanning a good 2000 years than it does with the religions themselves. Quote: Most other religions can and should be relatively tolerant towards each-other. Not sure I agree with that depending on how you're using "most other religions" there. There are a lot of religions out there I find not only wrong, but abhorrent, what they condone is horrific, and what they do is even worse, and I am in no way tolerant to them. There are even portions of my own religion which I will not only actively denounce, but publicly curse for the horrific stances they hold.
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