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 Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 7:51 am
Eumorpha Dixie Dellamorto No need to be nasty, el know-it-all. See that doesnt feel very good does it? I'm not being nasty. That's my nickname for the Captain. I like nicknames, I'm sorry. El Capitan- I suppose you're right. However, I must say, it's only natural to call all icecream strawberry when it's the best flavor. whee Don't worry, I like El Capitan too. xD I prefer fudge flavour, myself.
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Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 7:59 am
Well that was resolved quite nicely. And Here Here for icecream.
On a side note, I apologize for the attack on your perceived tone. Everyone is entitled to a pet name. Though being the TNG fan that I am, I would have gone with "mon Capitain" Which is what Q calls Picard. Though even then, he's being sarcastic and rude... oh Q...
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Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 9:03 am
Captain Amaranth Eumorpha Dixie Dellamorto No need to be nasty, el know-it-all. See that doesnt feel very good does it? I'm not being nasty. That's my nickname for the Captain. I like nicknames, I'm sorry. El Capitan- I suppose you're right. However, I must say, it's only natural to call all icecream strawberry when it's the best flavor. whee Don't worry, I like El Capitan too. xD I prefer fudge flavour, myself. Yay!! =D Despite being of the fairer gender, I never actually developed any sort of love for chocolate. Peanut butter fudge is good though. Dixie- It's ok. It's hard to tell sometimes what someone means on the internet. I do my best not to be mean or nasty. As for TNG, Q's concept was pretty cool, but I think because of trends at the time, he came out looking kinda goofy. I just can't get around that weird poofy hair. Patrick Stewart had the right of it by going bald. Baldies are timeless. rofl
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Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 6:57 pm
Eumorpha Dixie- It's ok. It's hard to tell sometimes what someone means on the internet. I do my best not to be mean or nasty. As for TNG, Q's concept was pretty cool, but I think because of trends at the time, he came out looking kinda goofy. I just can't get around that weird poofy hair. Patrick Stewart had the right of it by going bald. Baldies are timeless. rofl
Indeed, Thats why I hate the internet sometimes.
I love Q even though he has weird poofy hair... but you have to love picard.
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Posted: Sat May 02, 2009 2:53 pm
MyShadowHidesMe Lily Darling Steampunk is steampunk, plain and simple. (^_Q) Yeah, it's not something that can really be explained isn't it? It is what it is to the eye of the beholder. Oh yeah, Bioshock is steampunk(to me anyway) because of the age and undermantinence of the facility, causing the *ahem* inhabitants to make their own gear. All of the weapons have a very home-made feel to them(the grenade launcher looks like it was made out of vegetable cans). And yeah, my bit of Bioshock awesomeness propaganda.I'd like to ask, where is the steam in Bioshock? Sure, there's plenty of water, but is any of it turned into steam for the sake of producing mechanical energy? How do improvised weapons and crumbling architecture translate into being steampunk? I think you have it a bit backward, as it does seem a lot of folks do (as in, anachronism does not mean steampunk, DIY does not mean steampunk, clunky robots do not mean steampunk, etc.). Bioshock is very close to my heart, and I can't stand it when people label Bioshock as steampunk, as it is really anything BUT steampunk. Dieselpunk, genepunk, biopunk, whatever you may call it. There's no steam, and the only anachronisms present are represented by internal-combustion powered robots and giant non-descript machinery, and the presence of genetic modification beyond even what we can accomplish with modern medicine. At the very best, it may share any number of stylistic similarities, it may even "give that steampunk feel" by reminding you of definitive steampunk works. On its own, however, there is no logically acceptable argument asserting any steampunk-ness to Bioshock. It quite simply fails all the obvious "is it steampunk?" checks. Not to mention, anytime someone says "Bioshock is steampunk" regardless of their defense or "proof," it dilutes the concept of "steampunk" itself. The same goes for when people say "Fallout 3 is steampunk" and so on. Seriously, guys... Whatever happened to the STEAM? That's the ONE thing we cannot forget in steampunk, no matter how far you stretch the genre, no matter what setting it's in, no matter what other crazy anachronistic or fantastical stuff you add in, without the steam, there simply is no steampunk.
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Posted: Sat May 02, 2009 3:04 pm
Er.... very well said. (If a bit... emotional).
It is somewhat worrisome that nowadays especially (as steampunk becomes less and less obscure) that things are being branded as 'steampunk' - despite the oft obvious lack of steam (even if they evoke a similar 'feel').
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Posted: Sat May 02, 2009 3:45 pm
I apologize if I appear long-winded and, well, aggressive; please don't mistake my post(s) as outright belligerence. I'm just very passionate about this particular topic -- Bioshock specifically, but also the steam element in steampunk.
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Posted: Sat May 02, 2009 3:55 pm
And rightly so, good fellow.
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Posted: Sat May 02, 2009 7:56 pm
Xeigrich I'd like to ask, where is the steam in Bioshock?
I'm not defending it... I'm just pointing it out... though I don't know how redirecting water thru a turret gun will keep it from killing you... being "steam-powered" or not, but whatever...
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Posted: Sat May 02, 2009 8:08 pm
Dixie Dellamorto Xeigrich I'd like to ask, where is the steam in Bioshock? I'm not defending it... I'm just pointing it out... though I don't know how redirecting water thru a "steam-powered" turret gun will keep it from killing you... but whatever... I would also like to add the chemical thrower, as it emitted steam sometimes when you hit it. And the really creepy room in Dandy Dental that blew clouds of steam in your face in the Medical Area. You know the one, where you go to look at that desk in the corner, turn around and that guy is right in your face? Not to get technical or anything, but there's the steam. =D On top of that, I'd like to throw Hephaestus in there. Not because it's particularly steampunk, because technically there was no steam in there, but there were giant gears in there. Lots of them. =D
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Posted: Sat May 02, 2009 8:19 pm
Bioshock is too Art noveau to be steampunk.
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Posted: Sat May 02, 2009 9:09 pm
Shush.. he asked where the steam
was, and I told him. *laughs*
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Posted: Sun May 03, 2009 1:10 am
I would have to say, my interpretation of SteamPunk is a world of sepia tones and dingy skies. A landscape filled with Gothic architecture and SteamTech, kissed lightly by the PseudoScience I love so much. Chromium steel and brass find a purpose in boilers and blades, while steam roars like an angry dragon and the still mysterious aether dangles itself before us, a most seductive lure. The mundane world of the aristocracy is a shroud that conceals secret societies and clandestine cults who worship the aether and seek to control it; the common man's world is one of sweat and grime, where a day's wage comes at the end of a wrench or a gun. The ground gives freedom in the form of Steam driven chariots that hiss and clatter down cobblestone byways, while the skies embrace great airships who make berth in the clouds themselves. A man's day begins with the shriek of a factory steam whistle, and ends as the setting sun's ruby light sets the oil-filmed harbor waters ablaze with colors never before seen by the eyes of mortal man. Where the eyes of man turn skyward, searching for great gear-driven cities that sit in the clouds like man-made Asgard, and the innocent curls of the cumulus conceal adventure, majesty, and invention.
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Posted: Sun May 03, 2009 1:15 am
Benjamin Bradt I would have to say, my interpretation of SteamPunk is a world of sepia tones and dingy skies. A landscape filled with Gothic architecture and SteamTech, kissed lightly by the PseudoScience I love so much. Chromium steel and brass find a purpose in boilers and blades, while steam roars like an angry dragon and the still mysterious aether dangles itself before us, a most seductive lure. The mundane world of the aristocracy is a shroud that conceals secret societies and clandestine cults who worship the aether and seek to control it; the common man's world is one of sweat and grime, where a day's wage comes at the end of a wrench or a gun. The ground gives freedom in the form of Steam driven chariots that hiss and clatter down cobblestone byways, while the skies embrace great airships who make berth in the clouds themselves. A man's day begins with the shriek of a factory steam whistle, and ends as the setting sun's ruby light sets the oil-filmed harbor waters ablaze with colors never before seen by the eyes of mortal man. Where the eyes of man turn skyward, searching for great gear-driven cities that sit in the clouds like man-made Asgard, and the innocent curls of the cumulus conceal adventure, majesty, and invention. Dude...you're on fire.
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Posted: Sun May 03, 2009 1:51 pm
Ladies and gentlemen, please. Bioshock is pulp fiction/psycho thriller set in the 1960s. Sure, there are steampunk elements to it, but that's because it's pulp fiction.
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