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Creld

PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 1:33 pm


Okay, Okay, I get it.
PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 1:34 pm


Zair06890
um da I KNOW THAT!XD way do you think i love kurt so much?so he can hurt me?

*giggles* hurt you? never love ^w^

Retsu15


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 8:30 pm


Creld
Haha, sounds funny when you put it that way. (The song came to mind: "Transformers! Robots in disguise!") lol But you get what I meant, to treat each other like you would treat yourself. (Of the up-most importance)
What if to yourself you lie and to everyone keeps secrets because you don't want them to know certain things?

No one in the world has ever NOT lied. and even if they say they've never lied. They are lying. UNLESS there is a condition where people are truthfull 24/7 (and are not drunk >.> )

I dunno I lie. Only because there are certain things I don't want people to know. About me or things i've done...When I get comfortable with them sure but before that I'm not gonna spill my entire life story and expect you to understand.
PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 12:13 am


BloodStar09
Creld
Haha, sounds funny when you put it that way. (The song came to mind: "Transformers! Robots in disguise!") lol But you get what I meant, to treat each other like you would treat yourself. (Of the up-most importance)
What if to yourself you lie and to everyone keeps secrets because you don't want them to know certain things?

No one in the world has ever NOT lied. and even if they say they've never lied. They are lying. UNLESS there is a condition where people are truthfull 24/7 (and are not drunk >.> )

I dunno I lie. Only because there are certain things I don't want people to know. About me or things i've done...When I get comfortable with them sure but before that I'm not gonna spill my entire life story and expect you to understand.

Very good points, and I shall explain my opinion on all of them.
First, "What if to yourself you lie". Now, what I think you meant is "What if you lie to yourself", which is almost impossible. The act of lying is to purposely tell something that is false. If you know it is false, it is impossible to trick yourself into believing it is true unless you put yourself through some brain-washing method which would take a while and a lot of effort because you know the information already. Now, there is another exeption with my disoder (DID) as shown in this example: "People with DID are sometimes accused of lying because they deny engaging in activities others have witnessed them doing. They may not be consciously lying, however, if they engaged in the behavior while in a dissociated state -- for instance, as one of their dissociated aspects of self, or alternate personalities -- and have no conscious memory of it." That has never happened to me and hopefully won't. I have memory of when I let my alternate personalities take over.
Second, "Everyone keeps secrets because you don't want them to know certain things". This I completely disagree with. Yes, people "choose" to keep secrets so that others don't know something (I am guilty of keeping secrets from my family, specifically my DID), HOWEVER, IT IS NOT A REQUIREMENT (Not "everyone does"!). If I am to learn to trust someone with my life (i.e. partner), I shall not hold ANY secrets from them. I would be truthfully honest ALWAYS. This includes presents and other forms of surprises.
Third, "No one in the world has ever NOT lied." This may be true, however, what is to stop someone from not lying? Nothing. If you were to trust your partner with your life and care for them more than anything, there is no reason to lie. I believe it is always best for the truth to be known, no matter how much it may hurt.
Fourth, "UNLESS there is a condition where people are truthfull 24/7", DAMN IT! I scoured the internet looking for this disorder because I KNOW it exist, but I can't find it!! Anyway, yeah there is a disorder like that, I've seen it on the news before.
Fifth, "I dunno I lie. Only because there are certain things I don't want people to know. About me or things i've done...When I get comfortable with them sure but before that I'm not gonna spill my entire life story and expect you to understand." Well, that is you, not everyone else. I never said that I'd walk up to someone and say "Hey! Mind telling me all your secrets!?" Of course I would give the other person time to become comfortable with me before I asked such a thing. I'm just saying that I will never start going out with someone without knowing everything, that's how I am. If your a friend, fine, keep your secrets. I won't like you for it, but you may have your reasons. But for my partner, I nor she will have any secrets against one another, because secrets only lead to deception.

Creld


Zair Chaos Kitsune

PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 12:47 pm


wow i didn't even get to read crelds post to far with out quiting and posting this>.< ok here ish a test to prove i can't lie,ask me anything and than you will vote on if it ish a lie or not ok?^^
PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 2:03 pm


Wait, "can't lie"? I doubt that you are "not able to lie", and how will voting whether something is a lie or not change whether it is the truth?

Creld


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 2:46 pm


So what if I wanted to become your partner I have to tell you everything like i was raped when I was little. My parents are drug addicts. I live in a shitty enviroment.

Excuse me no people don't need to know tha. unfortunately I trust you enough to just say that but god there are things I wish people would never find out because then I get labled I get the s**t from everyone one else

I've seen the hard part of tellin the truth all the time so I gave up and put on this stupid false mask that says EVERYTHINGS all right when in fact NOTHING AND I MEAN NOTHING IS ALRIGHT!!!

*sits and sighs* Sorry...
PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 3:45 pm


"So what if I wanted to become your partner I have to tell you everything like i was raped when I was little. My parents are drug addicts. I live in a shitty enviroment." Yes, if you wanted to become my partner, I would like to know those things. It shows me what you've been through, how you went through life, and how you ended up here. It also shows that you trust me, because your willing to tell me such personal things. I could also try and help if not comfort you about these problems you have in life.
"Excuse me no people don't need to know tha." No one "needs" anything, they only "want". I would want to know that as I explained in the earlier statement.
"unfortunately I trust you enough to just say that but god there are things I wish people would never find out because then I get labled I get the s**t from everyone one else" I never said that you had to be truthful to the whole world. I just said that you would have to be truthful to your partner. Meaning if you want to tell lies and hold secrets from others, that's your choice, but no lying or holding secrets from your partner. Your partner should care for you and believe in you enough to accept you for who you are and whatever you have done, even if it is/was considered "wrong" or "taboo".
"I've seen the hard part of tellin the truth all the time so I gave up and put on this stupid false mask that says EVERYTHINGS all right when in fact NOTHING AND I MEAN NOTHING IS ALRIGHT!!!" I've done the a similar thing. I wear a mask of lies for my family, just so they think I'm alright (and so they don't throw me in an asylum or put me on drugs). But that's just the thing. Lies and secrets, only deception and pain come from them... That is why I want to find someone (my partner) who I can trust everything with and never have to lie or hold secrets against and the same for them. Let me ask you this to see how you would feel about this. If you met someone who knew EVERYTHING about you, and that person came up to you and hugged you and said "Everything's alright. I believe in you, there's no reason to lie. I'll be here for you, forever by your side." How would you feel?
"*sits and sighs* Sorry..." Don't be, your simply expressing your opinion and feelings on something that you don't exactly agree on. Everyone has their own opinions on things, we just don't exactly agree on how to be in a lover's relationship.

Creld


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 3:55 pm


If someone came up to me and did that I would probably look at them and break. All the walls I ever put up would crumble and I would start crying.

*wipes eyes* Like I am now... *sniffles*
PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 3:58 pm


I think i need someone to do that.... But no one here is willing to. My friends might if I ever opened up to them.

Sometimes I just want to stop disolving into being fake and screma that somethings wrong.

crying

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sonicblast_100
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 4:04 pm


i know how u feel star i have secrets that are eating me alive but i have noone to open up too
PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 4:06 pm


There is a saying that I like

"I don't put up walls for them to be broken I put them up to see who will climb over it to get to me"

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Creld

PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 4:16 pm


BloodStar09
If someone came up to me and did that I would probably look at them and break. All the walls I ever put up would crumble and I would start crying.

*wipes eyes* Like I am now... *sniffles*

"Exactly, isn't a good feeling though? Knowing that you can rely on another for all your problems, and that they would care for you?"
PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 4:17 pm


BloodStar09
I think i need someone to do that.... But no one here is willing to. My friends might if I ever opened up to them.

Sometimes I just want to stop disolving into being fake and screma that somethings wrong.

crying

"That is why I am on a search for my dream. To be able to have that with someone. But it can't just be anyone, it has to be my partner who I will spend the rest of my life with."

Creld


Creld

PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 4:18 pm


sonicblast_100
i know how u feel star i have secrets that are eating me alive but i have noone to open up too

"Well there is people in this guild you can open up to." (If you want to.) "I'm not here to put you down and tell you that your scum for doing something, I would be willing to listen to your problems if you want."
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