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Neither of us have read the books yet, so until I get a copy I can't say much on the content; but I do like the few glimpses of the fandom that I've seen, since much like the HP fandom, the Twilight kids have started expanding on the original idea of a series to produce (in a couple of cases) creative and well-written fanfiction. And their girlish excitement is much like when you get a group of Harry Potter fans together -- the passion and the blatant refusal to admit any flaws in the book/movie give me deja vu.

I can't say much on whether it's demeaning to women as I regularly abuse female fiction characters through fanfiction to fulfill my own fantasies; Lavender Brown, for example, has been turned into a soulless whore doomed to be used, abused and left no matter what storyline I place her in, yet I write her as a pathetic being who will kiss the ground you walk on if you give her a second glance, who lives through her lovers because to her there is no life without one. I can see where it'd be considered disrespectful and rather sexist, but since my personal views on it differ from many, I can't object to it since everyone has a different line between acceptable and unacceptable, and everyone has the right to feel and believe what their emotions and moral standards dictate for them personally.

I think the issue of "Twilight vs Harry Potter" is more of a "what makes a book good" debate, rather than a debate between two pieces of literature and their fandoms. I was thinking on it earlier, and for me personally it comes down to on what do we judge fiction? The skill with which it's written, the manner in which the storyline is formed, the effort that is placed into its creation, its ability to affect its readers or appeal to a large audience..? Does a huge fanbase make Twilight a good book because its contents stir up passion in so many people, or is it a bad book because it is poorly written, researched, and executed as compared to others in its genre? Is the Harry Potter series good because of its fanbase and the creative world in which it is based, or is it bad because of Rowling's plot/writing inconsistencies and her choice to "steal" ideas from other places and reshape them for her own?

I dunno if there's really a final, acceptable answer to any of it simply because it's all based on opinion, even the appropriateness of its content. But I do enjoy hearing everyone's opinion on the matter. n_n

- Naz

I'm just a feminazi so I hate to see demeaned female figures in literature that's popular amongst teenage girls. u_u

My sister and my mom like it soooo . . . gonk My sister was even an anti-Twilighter until she read it, and kept trying to get me to read it, but I hate romance stuff. Sometimes even the stuff Darrell says makes me want to like, strangle something.

I just think there are so much better things out there, like all the stuff we're reading in British Literature class. BUT THIS ISN'T A BOOK THREAD, IT'S A MOVIE THREAD. SOOO YEAH. ;D


I, personally, loved the movie Coraline. Anyone else see it? I saw it twice.

(xD But I am a self-proclaimed feminazi, so yeah. <3)

I didn't see any trailers . . . I don't watch TV or anything. XP But I just saw some of the poster art, and plus, it's a freaking NEIL GAIMAN book/movie. And it's really freaking awesome, and it has a definite ending. It totally feels like a video game at times though (it would make a kickass one, at that).

I shall have to give it a chance then. Though the button eyes.. they scare me. oo;;

@Cassy: ..wut? o___o;; WUT?

DARRELL IS GOING TO TAKE ME TO SEE WATCHMEN TODAY!!! heart heart

Y'mean Bubastis? They didn't really do much with him in the comic either, other then show him in a few of Dr. Manhattan's flashbacks, but then again it was more like, "Hey I'm Ozymandias and I'm a ******** genius so I'm going to genetically alter this lynx cause I'm just that cool."

My favorite part of the movie was the beginning, when they played the song The Times They Are A-changin', because that part was so well directed. heart Y'know . . . where they showed the changing of the Minutemen (like Mothman going insane and the others slowly dying off) and the start of the Watchmen.

That scene with the little girl made me angry because in the comics it's more hardcore. Instead of chopping his head with the axe, Rorshach handcuff's the guy's arm, throws him a saw, and sets the house on fire. He turns back and says, "You don't have enough time to cut through the handcuffs." Then walks out and watches the house burn. The other guy never comes out.

That's more hardcore.

Also, you remember when the newspaper seller guy and the black boy reading comics hug before ? That only meant a lot if you read the comics . . . because I was like "D: *HEARTBREAK*" Cause they didn't do that in the comicbooks.

I loved the movie. I know they had to dumb down the ending for regular audiences, but it wasn't that bad because it had the same general idea, I suppose.

OH AND YOU KNOW WHEN DR. MANHATTAN WAS and said that the universe was like "a watch without a watchmaker", that was an alliteration to a religious theory that argues the universe must have a God because, like a watch, the universe is so complicated that it must have been specifically made that way, just like how a watch has to be made into a watch--gears just wouldn't fall into place that way to make a watch without outside guidance. SO I THOUGHT THAT WAS COOL.

Oh and I was also a little irked that the guy at the end, the chubby boy who worked at the newspaper, that he wasn't redheaded. I mean would it have been THAT hard to find a guy for like 30 seconds of screentime who was redheaded? I liked him more as a redhead ;-;

I'm superexcited that on the DVD they're going to put in the scenes with the aformentioned black boy reading comics and the newspaper vendor. Those are like, major characters in the comic.


SORRY I LIKE WATCHMEN TOO MUCH.

Kat and I watched 'Who Framed Roger Rabbit?' last night.

I'm not bad. I'm just drawn that way... heart