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I understand what you're saying, but I'm just saying, with your stated goals? It won't work. I'm not saying be reasonable and don't say it. I'm saying be reasonable and don't expect to change anyone's minds about what a misogynist you are. The ones who think you are, and who think this is just a women's thing to you and you're out to control women, will think that no matter what noun you use.

Philosophy does not need to be practical to be true, but you cannot prove that you hold to that philosophy unless it is practical and so you cannot convince people who are bound to assume the worst that you would. I believe I acknowledged that you were saying that if men could get abortions you'd be against it, but I also said, "They won't believe it." Because they will not. For the reason I just highlighted. Again. Until men who are born male and uterus free are able to get abortions and you can put your money where your mouth is, don't expect anyone to believe you when you say it's about civil rights to you and not about controlling women.

Wow id never thought about it like that before now. But yes that makes perfect sense....wait i just realized i say people..not women too...