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My brother was nice enough to bring me home some chocolate soy milk because I had a major chocolate craving going on. I got my fix but he got the biggest container possible. gonk

Not sure If I'll be able to drink it all before it goes bad..

Thanks for the article pirhan!

i tried finding that clear skin diet book at barnes & noble!! I couldn't remember the author tho, so I was skimming book titles.

Not to hijack the thread, but how is that clear skin diet working out for you?

chocolate almond milk.


i worship it.

I love soy milk, but it REALLY isn't safe to drink outside asia! I'm sorry but it's true. We just don't know how to make it properly in the west :/

Here's the main dangers of soy that I know of, not all of them related directly to soy milk, but to soy in general.

1. Most modern soy foods are not fermented to neutralize toxins in soybeans, and are processed in a way that denatures proteins and increases levels of carcinogens, so it is NOT a good source of protein.
2. The compound that resembles vitamin B12 in soy cannot be used by the human body; in fact, soy foods cause the body to require more B12, therefore it is not actually a good replacement for other B12 sources.
3. Soy foods contain trypsin inhibitors that inhibit protein digestion and affect pancreatic function.
5. Soy isoflavones are phyto-endocrine disrupters. At dietary levels, they can prevent ovulation and stimulate the growth of cancer cells. Eating as little as 30 grams (about 4 tablespoons) of soy per day can result in hypothyroidism with symptoms of lethargy, constipation, weight gain and fatigue.
6. Most soy beans grown in the west are genetically engineered to allow farmers to use large amounts of herbicides. So that is another worry unless you can find/afford organic soy.
7. In Asia, people actually consume very little soy daily, and what they do consume is mostly a product of fermentation, such as soy sauce and miso soup, and so is safe to eat as it's anti-nutrients have been neutralised. So the opinion that soy is safe because people eat lots of it Japan and Japanese live long lives, is actually not quite right.

Here in Michigan it's illegal to sell raw milk, you can only get it if you own a cow. A farm not far from where I live does a cow sharing program (like buying stock, in a cow) so you co-own the cow with other people your just paying the farm to take care of it for you. I want to go over there as they also have cheese (they make Dutch type cheese on their farm) and free-range eggs for sale.

I have a lactase deficiency (i think) so I can't eat to much dairy (and I work at a pizza place gonk ). I haven't had cow's milk in a long time, I hardly drink soy milk, when i get it i use for chai lattes. Goat's milk sound intriguing, how does it taste?

Someone was wondering about negatives of almond milk. If you make your own be careful, bitter almonds if mixed with water create cyanide (also natural banana flavor is made from almonds, so it does too.)

Where do you get your goat milk pirhan? I've only read about it being better and easier to digest and I can only think of whole foods as a place to find it.

I'm not a big milk person to start with. I use whole cows milk for baking and on the rare occasion where i want milk I buy soy or almond milk so it doesn't disappear overnight.

I am lucky as well that both the larger chain Save On Foods grocery store as well as the "small" chain Nesters both carry this brand: http://www.happydaysdairy.com/products.html

They have an organic line as well, but I don't see that other then Whole Foods. You'll most likely not have this brand as it's a smaller BC company.

Surprisingly enough - went to Whole Foods and my yogurt, miso and goats milk is all $1 less expensive then the local grocery store.