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 Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 5:09 am
Sakyh HistoryWak Zombicide tangocat777 Nter At first it was like a slap in the face to Sony, now it's like a slap in the face to Microsoft. It's like Microsoft is trying so hard to be the cool kid (by stealing exclusives) but only getting half of the deal. You see guys? This guy has chilled down already. We're all going to forget in time. Just relax, break out the booze, and enjoy the ride. How am I supposed to enjoy it? FINAL FANTASY s**t IS COMING TO MY CONSOLE. THAT IS NOT FUN, NOR A RIDE. NOT COOL, MAN. It should have stayed on the PS3. cry It's not like it's mandatory to buy/play it. @Nter: Ok. You're taking it too seriously. @Canis: I hope you're being sarcastic. confused You can't tell me the Playstation brand needed FF to exist. No one game is so big that it's losing exclusivity basically crumbles the brand. A brand shouldn't but such weight and importance onto a game that isn't first party. Reason being, There was always a chance that someday they'd release it on more than one console or on another console entirely. It isn't Playstation's only important game. People will come to see that Playstation didn't the series in order to survive. Fans still get to play the game on Playstation so they shouldn't be as pissed as they are. I know I lack sympathy in exclusivity issues but that's because I only cared out if I can play a game not if someone else can too. FF is probably going to hurt Sony a lot, BUT, there are still a few other exclusives left in Sony's arsenol. Such as: Killzone 2Resistance 2 God of War 3 Kingdom Hearts 3 GoW and KH are two pretty big titles. And I'm expecting a lot out of Killzone 2. And Kojima is still exclusive to Sony so any games he'll make will belong to the PS3.
& Wak, exclusive titles are hugely important. Let's face it, most of the games on the PS3 are also on the 360. If they don't get many exlcusive titles that are awesome games, then why buy the PS3 when the 360 has a lot of the same titles and is cheaper? You obviously don't know what happened the first time around. And I guarantee it's going to happen again because it looks pretty much the same as the first one. And for all you know, Kojima could go with a different developer.
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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 5:17 am
Zombicide Sakyh HistoryWak Zombicide tangocat777 Nter At first it was like a slap in the face to Sony, now it's like a slap in the face to Microsoft. It's like Microsoft is trying so hard to be the cool kid (by stealing exclusives) but only getting half of the deal. You see guys? This guy has chilled down already. We're all going to forget in time. Just relax, break out the booze, and enjoy the ride. How am I supposed to enjoy it? FINAL FANTASY s**t IS COMING TO MY CONSOLE. THAT IS NOT FUN, NOR A RIDE. NOT COOL, MAN. It should have stayed on the PS3. cry It's not like it's mandatory to buy/play it. @Nter: Ok. You're taking it too seriously. @Canis: I hope you're being sarcastic. confused You can't tell me the Playstation brand needed FF to exist. No one game is so big that it's losing exclusivity basically crumbles the brand. A brand shouldn't but such weight and importance onto a game that isn't first party. Reason being, There was always a chance that someday they'd release it on more than one console or on another console entirely. It isn't Playstation's only important game. People will come to see that Playstation didn't the series in order to survive. Fans still get to play the game on Playstation so they shouldn't be as pissed as they are. I know I lack sympathy in exclusivity issues but that's because I only cared out if I can play a game not if someone else can too. FF is probably going to hurt Sony a lot, BUT, there are still a few other exclusives left in Sony's arsenol. Such as: Killzone 2Resistance 2 God of War 3 Kingdom Hearts 3 GoW and KH are two pretty big titles. And I'm expecting a lot out of Killzone 2. And Kojima is still exclusive to Sony so any games he'll make will belong to the PS3.
& Wak, exclusive titles are hugely important. Let's face it, most of the games on the PS3 are also on the 360. If they don't get many exlcusive titles that are awesome games, then why buy the PS3 when the 360 has a lot of the same titles and is cheaper? You obviously don't know what happened the first time around. And I guarantee it's going to happen again because it looks pretty much the same as the first one. And for all you know, Kojima could go with a different developer. I don't really see Kojima jumping ship, personally. As for Killzone, it's packed into the same category as Resistance: games without a name. The problem I have with Killzone 2 is that the first wasn't really well received, and why Sony thinks they can push it hard enough to make people love it I will never know. Resistance 2 might be really good, but the truth is, Resistance: FoM was the ONLY game worth buying when the PS3 released, as well as the only good one for a few months. THAT'S why people ate it up as much as they did. Now that there are alternatives, Sony is going to have to prove that it wasn't hype. A mediocre sequel with ruin the game and hurt the PS3 immensely. @ Sakyh: Did you realize that you listed a Square game as exclusive? The same Square that put one of their most anticipated games on the 360's coming soon list? I think Kingdom Hearts has a look that does not require high-end graphics, and the series could probably do more good on Wii than PS3. Motion controls + action RPG = potential win.
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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 6:39 am
Zombicide Sakyh HistoryWak Zombicide tangocat777 Nter At first it was like a slap in the face to Sony, now it's like a slap in the face to Microsoft. It's like Microsoft is trying so hard to be the cool kid (by stealing exclusives) but only getting half of the deal. You see guys? This guy has chilled down already. We're all going to forget in time. Just relax, break out the booze, and enjoy the ride. How am I supposed to enjoy it? FINAL FANTASY s**t IS COMING TO MY CONSOLE. THAT IS NOT FUN, NOR A RIDE. NOT COOL, MAN. It should have stayed on the PS3. cry It's not like it's mandatory to buy/play it. @Nter: Ok. You're taking it too seriously. @Canis: I hope you're being sarcastic. confused You can't tell me the Playstation brand needed FF to exist. No one game is so big that it's losing exclusivity basically crumbles the brand. A brand shouldn't but such weight and importance onto a game that isn't first party. Reason being, There was always a chance that someday they'd release it on more than one console or on another console entirely. It isn't Playstation's only important game. People will come to see that Playstation didn't the series in order to survive. Fans still get to play the game on Playstation so they shouldn't be as pissed as they are. I know I lack sympathy in exclusivity issues but that's because I only cared out if I can play a game not if someone else can too. FF is probably going to hurt Sony a lot, BUT, there are still a few other exclusives left in Sony's arsenol. Such as: Killzone 2Resistance 2 God of War 3 Kingdom Hearts 3 GoW and KH are two pretty big titles. And I'm expecting a lot out of Killzone 2. And Kojima is still exclusive to Sony so any games he'll make will belong to the PS3.
& Wak, exclusive titles are hugely important. Let's face it, most of the games on the PS3 are also on the 360. If they don't get many exlcusive titles that are awesome games, then why buy the PS3 when the 360 has a lot of the same titles and is cheaper? You obviously don't know what happened the first time around. And I guarantee it's going to happen again because it looks pretty much the same as the first one. And for all you know, Kojima could go with a different developer. 1st of all I love Killzone 1. I own it, I've beaten it, and I still play it. Secondly, Kojima hates Microsoft so I doubt he'll be making any 360 games in the upcoming future. And I'm not worried about him leaving Sony for Nintendo in any way like Rare left Nintendo for Microsoft. EDIT: @ Superjawes: Yeah, and here's the difference. It's Kingdom Hearts 3. As in part of a series that's actually a series in the sense it follows the same storyline. With GTA and FF, none of the games (except for X-2) is an actual sequel. It's just another FF or GTA title. So I don't think that will actually jump ship. KH (1-3) doesn not have gameplay that would translate well onto the Wii, so I don't think it would port to the Wii. And again, unlike FF13 & FF1 which have nothing to do with each other asides from the fact that their titles are "Final Fantasy" KH3's storyline is a direct conntinuation from KH2, so I don't think we'll see it on the 360. It's like if a Mass Effect sequel came out for the 360, and then Mass Effect 3 came out for both the 360 and the PS3 in the sense that it would be 3 to Mass effect 1 as KH3 is to Kh1. It just wouldn't make sense. Additional EDIT: And just cause it's an action RPG doesn't mean it would work with the Wiimote. I think it'd be a potential fail rather than potential win.
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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 7:28 am
Sakyh Zombicide Sakyh HistoryWak Zombicide How am I supposed to enjoy it? FINAL FANTASY s**t IS COMING TO MY CONSOLE. THAT IS NOT FUN, NOR A RIDE. NOT COOL, MAN. It should have stayed on the PS3. cry It's not like it's mandatory to buy/play it. @Nter: Ok. You're taking it too seriously. @Canis: I hope you're being sarcastic. confused You can't tell me the Playstation brand needed FF to exist. No one game is so big that it's losing exclusivity basically crumbles the brand. A brand shouldn't but such weight and importance onto a game that isn't first party. Reason being, There was always a chance that someday they'd release it on more than one console or on another console entirely. It isn't Playstation's only important game. People will come to see that Playstation didn't the series in order to survive. Fans still get to play the game on Playstation so they shouldn't be as pissed as they are. I know I lack sympathy in exclusivity issues but that's because I only cared out if I can play a game not if someone else can too. FF is probably going to hurt Sony a lot, BUT, there are still a few other exclusives left in Sony's arsenol. Such as: Killzone 2Resistance 2 God of War 3 Kingdom Hearts 3 GoW and KH are two pretty big titles. And I'm expecting a lot out of Killzone 2. And Kojima is still exclusive to Sony so any games he'll make will belong to the PS3.
& Wak, exclusive titles are hugely important. Let's face it, most of the games on the PS3 are also on the 360. If they don't get many exlcusive titles that are awesome games, then why buy the PS3 when the 360 has a lot of the same titles and is cheaper? You obviously don't know what happened the first time around. And I guarantee it's going to happen again because it looks pretty much the same as the first one. And for all you know, Kojima could go with a different developer. 1st of all I love Killzone 1. I own it, I've beaten it, and I still play it. Secondly, Kojima hates Microsoft so I doubt he'll be making any 360 games in the upcoming future. And I'm not worried about him leaving Sony for Nintendo in any way like Rare left Nintendo for Microsoft. EDIT: @ Superjawes: Yeah, and here's the difference. It's Kingdom Hearts 3. As in part of a series that's actually a series in the sense it follows the same storyline. With GTA and FF, none of the games (except for X-2) is an actual sequel. It's just another FF or GTA title. So I don't think that will actually jump ship. KH (1-3) doesn not have gameplay that would translate well onto the Wii, so I don't think it would port to the Wii. And again, unlike FF13 & FF1 which have nothing to do with each other asides from the fact that their titles are "Final Fantasy" KH3's storyline is a direct conntinuation from KH2, so I don't think we'll see it on the 360. It's like if a Mass Effect sequel came out for the 360, and then Mass Effect 3 came out for both the 360 and the PS3 in the sense that it would be 3 to Mass effect 1 as KH3 is to Kh1. It just wouldn't make sense. Additional EDIT: And just cause it's an action RPG doesn't mean it would work with the Wiimote. I think it'd be a potential fail rather than potential win. Game play won't transfer? The KH battle system is very simple, and the Wii would only enhance the experience, in my opinion. But anyways...I thought of something else. According to the KH storyline, there is nothing left of conflict in the original story. The main baddie is dead...both his Heartless and his Nobody. Therefore, a true Kingdom Hearts 3 would have to come up with a completely new conflict for the recognized characters, making it less of a sequel like Halo 1 to 3. On top of that, the secret ending of KH2 (more importantly the Final Mix) had nothing to do with Sora, Riku, or Kairi. It only referenced the title now coming to PSP, while Square also decided to develop a Kingdom Hearts game for DS. This breaking away might signal a game that exists in the Kingdom Hearts universe is more than possible for Wii. On a final note, while you say that games ion a series generally follow a single console, but for one, SquareEnix is entirely third party, so unless they are bound by contract, they could put KH 3 on any console they wanted. Moreover, the PS3 also requires a new purchase for old fans, just as a Wii version would. Difference is, there are more Wiis on the market, and the Wii is significantly cheaper than the PS3. Throw in decent graphics with Hi-Res cutscenes (like the earlier games and God of War), and you've got a recipe for a great game.
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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 8:50 am
SuperJawes2112 Sakyh @ Superjawes: Yeah, and here's the difference. It's Kingdom Hearts 3. As in part of a series that's actually a series in the sense it follows the same storyline. With GTA and FF, none of the games (except for X-2) is an actual sequel. It's just another FF or GTA title. So I don't think that will actually jump ship. KH (1-3) doesn not have gameplay that would translate well onto the Wii, so I don't think it would port to the Wii. And again, unlike FF13 & FF1 which have nothing to do with each other asides from the fact that their titles are "Final Fantasy" KH3's storyline is a direct conntinuation from KH2, so I don't think we'll see it on the 360. It's like if a Mass Effect sequel came out for the 360, and then Mass Effect 3 came out for both the 360 and the PS3 in the sense that it would be 3 to Mass effect 1 as KH3 is to Kh1. It just wouldn't make sense. Additional EDIT: And just cause it's an action RPG doesn't mean it would work with the Wiimote. I think it'd be a potential fail rather than potential win. Game play won't transfer? The KH battle system is very simple, and the Wii would only enhance the experience, in my opinion. But anyways...I thought of something else. According to the KH storyline, there is nothing left of conflict in the original story. The main baddie is dead...both his Heartless and his Nobody. Therefore, a true Kingdom Hearts 3 would have to come up with a completely new conflict for the recognized characters, making it less of a sequel like Halo 1 to 3. On top of that, the secret ending of KH2 (more importantly the Final Mix) had nothing to do with Sora, Riku, or Kairi. It only referenced the title now coming to PSP, while Square also decided to develop a Kingdom Hearts game for DS. This breaking away might signal a game that exists in the Kingdom Hearts universe is more than possible for Wii. On a final note, while you say that games ion a series generally follow a single console, but for one, SquareEnix is entirely third party, so unless they are bound by contract, they could put KH 3 on any console they wanted. Moreover, the PS3 also requires a new purchase for old fans, just as a Wii version would. Difference is, there are more Wiis on the market, and the Wii is significantly cheaper than the PS3. Throw in decent graphics with Hi-Res cutscenes (like the earlier games and God of War), and you've got a recipe for a great game. I just cannot see the gameplay translate over well onto the Wiimote. It's more than just the basic "hack and slash" moves. There are also the other malee moves that would be harder to pull off with the wiimote. And then you have summoning and magic. How would that work? And then there's the new fusion forms that was introduced in KH2 (Can't remember what they were actually called). If that comes back that could also be problematic. I didn't mention the handheld games because those are just little sidestories that aren't essential to the series. yes it's third party, but that doesn't neccessarily mean it will be multi-platformed. Third party developers have actually been known to stay exclusive. Oh, and it just occured to me that the best rebuttle you could've used was Capcom and Devil May Cry 4. EDIT: Are Naughty Dog & Insomniac 3rd party developers?
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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:06 am
Sakyh SuperJawes2112 Sakyh @ Superjawes: Yeah, and here's the difference. It's Kingdom Hearts 3. As in part of a series that's actually a series in the sense it follows the same storyline. With GTA and FF, none of the games (except for X-2) is an actual sequel. It's just another FF or GTA title. So I don't think that will actually jump ship. KH (1-3) doesn not have gameplay that would translate well onto the Wii, so I don't think it would port to the Wii. And again, unlike FF13 & FF1 which have nothing to do with each other asides from the fact that their titles are "Final Fantasy" KH3's storyline is a direct conntinuation from KH2, so I don't think we'll see it on the 360. It's like if a Mass Effect sequel came out for the 360, and then Mass Effect 3 came out for both the 360 and the PS3 in the sense that it would be 3 to Mass effect 1 as KH3 is to Kh1. It just wouldn't make sense. Additional EDIT: And just cause it's an action RPG doesn't mean it would work with the Wiimote. I think it'd be a potential fail rather than potential win. Game play won't transfer? The KH battle system is very simple, and the Wii would only enhance the experience, in my opinion. But anyways...I thought of something else. According to the KH storyline, there is nothing left of conflict in the original story. The main baddie is dead...both his Heartless and his Nobody. Therefore, a true Kingdom Hearts 3 would have to come up with a completely new conflict for the recognized characters, making it less of a sequel like Halo 1 to 3. On top of that, the secret ending of KH2 (more importantly the Final Mix) had nothing to do with Sora, Riku, or Kairi. It only referenced the title now coming to PSP, while Square also decided to develop a Kingdom Hearts game for DS. This breaking away might signal a game that exists in the Kingdom Hearts universe is more than possible for Wii. On a final note, while you say that games ion a series generally follow a single console, but for one, SquareEnix is entirely third party, so unless they are bound by contract, they could put KH 3 on any console they wanted. Moreover, the PS3 also requires a new purchase for old fans, just as a Wii version would. Difference is, there are more Wiis on the market, and the Wii is significantly cheaper than the PS3. Throw in decent graphics with Hi-Res cutscenes (like the earlier games and God of War), and you've got a recipe for a great game. I just cannot see the gameplay translate over well onto the Wiimote. It's more than just the basic "hack and slash" moves. There are also the other malee moves that would be harder to pull off with the wiimote. And then you have summoning and magic. How would that work? And then there's the new fusion forms that was introduced in KH2 (Can't remember what they were actually called). If that comes back that could also be problematic. I didn't mention the handheld games because those are just little sidestories that aren't essential to the series. yes it's third party, but that doesn't neccessarily mean it will be multi-platformed. Third party developers have actually been known to stay exclusive. Oh, and it just occured to me that the best rebuttle you could've used was Capcom and Devil May Cry 4. EDIT: Are Naughty Dog & Insomniac 3rd party developers? I'm not sure about the companies you mentions. Anyway, what do we have in Kingdom Hearts that we need to translate? The game was primarily a menu, with the D-Pad (or right stick) navigating the menu and X activating a selection (which included summons and drive forms). Circle was jump, triangle was reaction, and square was other action. The Wiimote has an A button, a B button, a C button, a Z button, a 1 button, a 2 button, and motion sensitivity. With these, you have all you need to make the Kingdom Hearts 2 scheme work, but maybe even better. The A and B buttons can replace X and Circle, and motion can replace the Triangle and Square (or Z could replace defense button). The D-Pad would work for the command menu, and you could even set access to a summon or drive menu on 1 and 2. Now as for specifics, many things in KH2 became Limits (or whatever they called them since I didn't use them). If Square wanted to continue that route, motion controls would fit seamlessly into the equation. Not to mention that a point-to-lock-on system could make things easier for magic (point to where a spell should attack as opposed to having to lock onto an enemy).
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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:17 am
SuperJawes2112 Sakyh SuperJawes2112 Sakyh @ Superjawes: Yeah, and here's the difference. It's Kingdom Hearts 3. As in part of a series that's actually a series in the sense it follows the same storyline. With GTA and FF, none of the games (except for X-2) is an actual sequel. It's just another FF or GTA title. So I don't think that will actually jump ship. KH (1-3) doesn not have gameplay that would translate well onto the Wii, so I don't think it would port to the Wii. And again, unlike FF13 & FF1 which have nothing to do with each other asides from the fact that their titles are "Final Fantasy" KH3's storyline is a direct conntinuation from KH2, so I don't think we'll see it on the 360. It's like if a Mass Effect sequel came out for the 360, and then Mass Effect 3 came out for both the 360 and the PS3 in the sense that it would be 3 to Mass effect 1 as KH3 is to Kh1. It just wouldn't make sense. Additional EDIT: And just cause it's an action RPG doesn't mean it would work with the Wiimote. I think it'd be a potential fail rather than potential win. Game play won't transfer? The KH battle system is very simple, and the Wii would only enhance the experience, in my opinion. But anyways...I thought of something else. According to the KH storyline, there is nothing left of conflict in the original story. The main baddie is dead...both his Heartless and his Nobody. Therefore, a true Kingdom Hearts 3 would have to come up with a completely new conflict for the recognized characters, making it less of a sequel like Halo 1 to 3. On top of that, the secret ending of KH2 (more importantly the Final Mix) had nothing to do with Sora, Riku, or Kairi. It only referenced the title now coming to PSP, while Square also decided to develop a Kingdom Hearts game for DS. This breaking away might signal a game that exists in the Kingdom Hearts universe is more than possible for Wii. On a final note, while you say that games ion a series generally follow a single console, but for one, SquareEnix is entirely third party, so unless they are bound by contract, they could put KH 3 on any console they wanted. Moreover, the PS3 also requires a new purchase for old fans, just as a Wii version would. Difference is, there are more Wiis on the market, and the Wii is significantly cheaper than the PS3. Throw in decent graphics with Hi-Res cutscenes (like the earlier games and God of War), and you've got a recipe for a great game. I just cannot see the gameplay translate over well onto the Wiimote. It's more than just the basic "hack and slash" moves. There are also the other malee moves that would be harder to pull off with the wiimote. And then you have summoning and magic. How would that work? And then there's the new fusion forms that was introduced in KH2 (Can't remember what they were actually called). If that comes back that could also be problematic. I didn't mention the handheld games because those are just little sidestories that aren't essential to the series. yes it's third party, but that doesn't neccessarily mean it will be multi-platformed. Third party developers have actually been known to stay exclusive. Oh, and it just occured to me that the best rebuttle you could've used was Capcom and Devil May Cry 4. EDIT: Are Naughty Dog & Insomniac 3rd party developers? I'm not sure about the companies you mentions. Anyway, what do we have in Kingdom Hearts that we need to translate? The game was primarily a menu, with the D-Pad (or right stick) navigating the menu and X activating a selection (which included summons and drive forms). Circle was jump, triangle was reaction, and square was other action. The Wiimote has an A button, a B button, a C button, a Z button, a 1 button, a 2 button, and motion sensitivity. With these, you have all you need to make the Kingdom Hearts 2 scheme work, but maybe even better. The A and B buttons can replace X and Circle, and motion can replace the Triangle and Square (or Z could replace defense button). The D-Pad would work for the command menu, and you could even set access to a summon or drive menu on 1 and 2. Now as for specifics, many things in KH2 became Limits (or whatever they called them since I didn't use them). If Square wanted to continue that route, motion controls would fit seamlessly into the equation. Not to mention that a point-to-lock-on system could make things easier for magic (point to where a spell should attack as opposed to having to lock onto an enemy). Is Z the trigger button?
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Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 8:13 pm
I think we're ok for now, now that the fanboys have calmed. But what happens if the 360 were to get exclusive DLC or something along the lines of that? People would be burned at the stake.
I hope you brought marshmallows.
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Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 5:31 pm
SuperJawes2112 Game play won't transfer? The KH battle system is very simple, and the Wii would only enhance the experience, in my opinion. Nope. Play Kingdom Hearts and count how many times you press X during one section of fighting. That's how much you'd have to waggle your wrist to play KH on the Wii. TERRIBLE!
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Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 7:05 pm
Arvis_Jaggamar SuperJawes2112 Game play won't transfer? The KH battle system is very simple, and the Wii would only enhance the experience, in my opinion. Nope. Play Kingdom Hearts and count ch you'd have to waggle your wrist to play KH on the Wii. TERRIBLE! There's an "A" button on the Wiimote stare
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Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 8:12 pm
Sakyh Zombicide Sakyh HistoryWak Zombicide How am I supposed to enjoy it? FINAL FANTASY s**t IS COMING TO MY CONSOLE. THAT IS NOT FUN, NOR A RIDE. NOT COOL, MAN. It should have stayed on the PS3. cry It's not like it's mandatory to buy/play it. @Nter: Ok. You're taking it too seriously. @Canis: I hope you're being sarcastic. confused You can't tell me the Playstation brand needed FF to exist. No one game is so big that it's losing exclusivity basically crumbles the brand. A brand shouldn't but such weight and importance onto a game that isn't first party. Reason being, There was always a chance that someday they'd release it on more than one console or on another console entirely. It isn't Playstation's only important game. People will come to see that Playstation didn't the series in order to survive. Fans still get to play the game on Playstation so they shouldn't be as pissed as they are. I know I lack sympathy in exclusivity issues but that's because I only cared out if I can play a game not if someone else can too. FF is probably going to hurt Sony a lot, BUT, there are still a few other exclusives left in Sony's arsenol. Such as: Killzone 2Resistance 2 God of War 3 Kingdom Hearts 3 GoW and KH are two pretty big titles. And I'm expecting a lot out of Killzone 2. And Kojima is still exclusive to Sony so any games he'll make will belong to the PS3.
& Wak, exclusive titles are hugely important. Let's face it, most of the games on the PS3 are also on the 360. If they don't get many exlcusive titles that are awesome games, then why buy the PS3 when the 360 has a lot of the same titles and is cheaper? You obviously don't know what happened the first time around. And I guarantee it's going to happen again because it looks pretty much the same as the first one. And for all you know, Kojima could go with a different developer. 1st of all I love Killzone 1. I own it, I've beaten it, and I still play it. Secondly, Kojima hates Microsoft so I doubt he'll be making any 360 games in the upcoming future. And I'm not worried about him leaving Sony for Nintendo in any way like Rare left Nintendo for Microsoft. EDIT: @ Superjawes: Yeah, and here's the difference. It's Kingdom Hearts 3. As in part of a series that's actually a series in the sense it follows the same storyline. With GTA and FF, none of the games (except for X-2) is an actual sequel. It's just another FF or GTA title. So I don't think that will actually jump ship. KH (1-3) doesn not have gameplay that would translate well onto the Wii, so I don't think it would port to the Wii. And again, unlike FF13 & FF1 which have nothing to do with each other asides from the fact that their titles are "Final Fantasy" KH3's storyline is a direct conntinuation from KH2, so I don't think we'll see it on the 360. It's like if a Mass Effect sequel came out for the 360, and then Mass Effect 3 came out for both the 360 and the PS3 in the sense that it would be 3 to Mass effect 1 as KH3 is to Kh1. It just wouldn't make sense. Additional EDIT: And just cause it's an action RPG doesn't mean it would work with the Wiimote. I think it'd be a potential fail rather than potential win. I wouldn't mind seeing how it works, but it would probably end up being a button masher, completely bypassing the oppurtunity given to it with the Wiimotes. I wouldn't want them to change the gameplay style though. Last time they did that...well...Kindgom Hearts: Chain of Memories happened. *shudders*
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Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 8:22 pm
SuperJawes2112 Arvis_Jaggamar SuperJawes2112 Game play won't transfer? The KH battle system is very simple, and the Wii would only enhance the experience, in my opinion. Nope. Play Kingdom Hearts and count ch you'd have to waggle your wrist to play KH on the Wii. TERRIBLE! There's an "A" button on the Wiimote stare But the problem with that is that Kingdom Hearts is essentially a button masher, and face it, the Wiimote and nunchuck isn't the best setup for button mashing, meaning we'd be stuck with waggle controls, or we'd be stuck with Wiimote on its side, which is a rip, because it most likely means motion controls will be at a minimum and I could just play it on a more suitable DualShock or 360 controller.
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Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 8:27 pm
-The Gray Legend- SuperJawes2112 Arvis_Jaggamar SuperJawes2112 Game play won't transfer? The KH battle system is very simple, and the Wii would only enhance the experience, in my opinion. Nope. Play Kingdom Hearts and count ch you'd have to waggle your wrist to play KH on the Wii. TERRIBLE! There's an "A" button on the Wiimote stare But the problem with that is that Kingdom Hearts is essentially a button masher, and face it, the Wiimote and nunchuck isn't the best setup for button mashing, meaning we'd be stuck with waggle controls, or we'd be stuck with Wiimote on its side, which is a rip, because it most likely means motion controls will be at a minimum and I could just play it on a more suitable DualShock or 360 controller. Hey, you can mash the A, move with the nunchuk stick, and wave the Wiimote for action commands. How hard would it be?
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Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 8:30 pm
Zombicide tangocat777 Nter At first it was like a slap in the face to Sony, now it's like a slap in the face to Microsoft. It's like Microsoft is trying so hard to be the cool kid (by stealing exclusives) but only getting half of the deal. You see guys? This guy has chilled down already. We're all going to forget in time. Just relax, break out the booze, and enjoy the ride. How am I supposed to enjoy it? FINAL FANTASY s**t IS COMING TO MY CONSOLE. THAT IS NOT FUN, NOR A RIDE. NOT COOL, MAN. It should have stayed on the PS3. cry I'll bet it'll be a ride when you break out the booze. You may even enjoy it. Now, you might as well relax. *fires shotgun at Zombicide's foot* After all, your not going anywhere. @KHIII discussion: valid points, but here's the thing: if it's on the Wii, I will buy it.[/discussion]
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Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 10:20 pm
SuperJawes2112 -The Gray Legend- SuperJawes2112 Arvis_Jaggamar SuperJawes2112 Game play won't transfer? The KH battle system is very simple, and the Wii would only enhance the experience, in my opinion. Nope. Play Kingdom Hearts and count ch you'd have to waggle your wrist to play KH on the Wii. TERRIBLE! There's an "A" button on the Wiimote stare But the problem with that is that Kingdom Hearts is essentially a button masher, and face it, the Wiimote and nunchuck isn't the best setup for button mashing, meaning we'd be stuck with waggle controls, or we'd be stuck with Wiimote on its side, which is a rip, because it most likely means motion controls will be at a minimum and I could just play it on a more suitable DualShock or 360 controller. Hey, you can mash the A, move with the nunchuk stick, and wave the Wiimote for action commands. How hard would it be? It would be very hard. And gay. Using the A button would effectively render the Wiimote pointless. The whole POINT of motion controls is to simulate a more "realistic" experience. Ignore that this concept fails epically in every game. But completely relegating prefabbed motions to certain action commands? What's the point!? How is that better than just pressing a button?
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