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It's sad that most born humans don't even get a chance to determine their own lives - often even after becoming legal adults, due to the inability to deal with the problems of their childhood.

I think that controlling one's own life, and one's own body, is something that everyone should do, and be free to do. But it's hard for people to take on that responsibility, and the truth is that many born humans don't even seem to get the chance to try. Life is tough, and some people don't seem to see how they make it tougher on themselves (often by being unable or unwilling to take responsibility for their own lives).

Yes, and my idea is- To think, had she willed it, any of you or your siblings could be dead.

Not trying to make an emotional appeal, but that is the fact of the matter- she could have killed one of you legally, and you would have supported it.

But, she didn't and for that I am thankful. And I hope to be thankful for the lives of many more.

It really doesn't bother me that my mother is Pro-Choice, and thus might have chosen abortion instead of having children. I mean, if my parents hadn't had sex that night, if they had sex a few minutes earlier or later, a different sperm might have fertilized the ovum and I wouldn't be here.

Personally, it worries me more that some women might only have children because they feel obligated to, or feel that they have no other choice than to do so. I hope that women who feel that way after carrying their pregnancy to term give the resulting children up for adoption instead of raising them but resenting them. And that those children get adopted into loving homes.

But, really, I think that most people do want to have children after they get pregnant (if not before). Even when it's a surprise. It doesn't seem to matter if they are Pro-Life or Pro-Choice, I think most couples are pretty happy about having a baby. And that is something that I think everyone can be thankful for!

Well, that depends on theologies, and wether individual sperm have souls. I believe that they do not, and that a soul is created at conception (Mind you, not in the evangelical sense that "zomg baby at conception!" idea, but a more loose beginning to who one is, unique to the conception and only after conception.) Basically, the soul waits until conception to appear. so minutes, days, whatever, you'd still be you, minus the time difference of course.

And that's just it- It's never about the fetus's life. It's always the woman. Not even her life, just her convenience, and her time, and her lifestyle. It's not an obligation to help someone, it's an obligation to not kill someone.

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No, no, I get it. It's something I've thought about as well, because I did consider all my options. And I think it's in my nature (perhaps everyone's) to consider the what ifs...

It's just...for me at least, the difference between my daughter - who loves purple, makes up songs, and will cry if she forgets to hug me every morning before I go to work - and a fetus, simply floating and forming, completely unaware of anything. Yes, it -could- eventually turn into a child with its own personality who I would love...but if it never got there, it would just be "the road not taken"...it's just not the same to me, y'know?

Of course, I believe that part of this stems from my belief on souls and when they enter the body. It would be hard for me to mourn an aborted fetus in the same sense that I would mourn a born child who died. I wouldn't consider them quite on the same level, and while both may be sad situations, the difference is great.

But like I said, I do see what you mean. It's a strange concept at first glance, but I think those who hold the same position I do have many varied reasons for it. I only know mine, but now that you've brought it up, I'm actually curious about where others come from on it. <3

You're very optimistic. biggrin If I where in your shoes I would count my blessings. "phew..."

I'm just glad I wouldn't have to worry about that, though my mom decided not to get pregnant again after me (though she was fine, she was scared that something bad could happen since she was told that long before she even had me). Though she seems to be against abortion (she never really talks about it).

Though I don't know when the soul enters the body, the embryo and fetus are still humans to me, developing and unable to do awhole lot at the time, it's still living. Maybe a death of a born person is sadder, I would still feel bad if I lost the child before it was born.