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 Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 7:26 pm
It's not just that they're the 'manga' crowd, but that they're the sort who believe that Manga is an accurate portrayal of Japan, as opposed to a product of the popular culture.
I don't know if any of you have heard of the WacDonalds issue, but it was hilarious.
They're crazy, and wrong, and talking out their a**, and I think that secretly, they know it. That's why so few of them are willing to brave the debate any longer.
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Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 8:14 pm
Ryushikaze
I don't know if any of you have heard of the WacDonalds issue, but it was hilarious."I have in my hands the means, and in my heart, the will." I got the gist of it, because I saw it being made fun of on Destiny Failed, heh heh! x'D
@Twin- Oh, how I loathe Vampire Knight. And Fruits Basket. (I love Akito, but still.)
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Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 10:57 pm
Ryushikaze It's not just that they're the 'manga' crowd, but that they're the sort who believe that Manga is an accurate portrayal of Japan, as opposed to a product of the popular culture.
I don't know if any of you have heard of the WacDonalds issue, but it was hilarious.
They're crazy, and wrong, and talking out their a**, and I think that secretly, they know it. That's why so few of them are willing to brave the debate any longer. Yes, thanks. That's the point I was trying to make but it wasn't coming out quite right. I kind of wish the people who were fighting us in the AC thread here would come over to AC.net and continue since the fighting only stopped because the Mod told us to. They seemed very determined to keep up the fight here... *sigh*
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:56 pm
Balthea Ryushikaze It's not just that they're the 'manga' crowd, but that they're the sort who believe that Manga is an accurate portrayal of Japan, as opposed to a product of the popular culture.
I don't know if any of you have heard of the WacDonalds issue, but it was hilarious.
They're crazy, and wrong, and talking out their a**, and I think that secretly, they know it. That's why so few of them are willing to brave the debate any longer. Yes, thanks. That's the point I was trying to make but it wasn't coming out quite right. I kind of wish the people who were fighting us in the AC thread here would come over to AC.net and continue since the fighting only stopped because the Mod told us to. They seemed very determined to keep up the fight here... *sigh* "I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I'm not." Since I am dubbed by the Cleris Queen as a backstabber to the Cleris Cult, I'm sure the "fight" would be ten times more amusing there. rofl
Get this. Cleris fans come here and copy paste our stuff, and post it in the CXA Forums.
I hope they copy paste this and get it through their heads that they're being petty.
*bitter*
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:58 pm
I wonder how our Cleris friends in the Cleris guild would feel about you being accused like that?
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 7:07 pm
"I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I'm not." I'm not sure.
I'm not sure if I can ask them.
FF_G said that members came here and told the members of her Forum what I had been writing about them. (Which is nothing. >_>) I'm just afraid that maybe that rabid with all of the mule accounts, went there and made me look bad or something. =shrugs=
She told me not to expect sympathy from members in the CXA Forums, because they feel I betrayed them as well. And I know some people in the Cleris Guild--- er most, are in the CXA Forums. So, I don't know.
Funny, they talk bad about us all the time, but they're right because they can do no wrong.
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 10:19 pm
"Don't step on the flowers!"
No, this is just ridiculous.
First off, if the rabids aren't behind this, I'd be shocked. Second, we say and do nothing negative towards Cleris that the Cleris guild doesn't do towards us.
Does everyone need a lesson in what the Cloti/Cleris alliance stands for?
1. No Cloti or Cleris will have their personality completely generalized because of their pairing.
2. No Cleris will hate a Cloti person for liking their pairing.
3. No Cloti will hate a Cleris person for liking their pairing.
4. You don't have to like everyone, just don't hate them because of what pairing they prefer.
5. You are allowed to debate the LTD, and prove either side wrong with facts or quotes.
6. You are allowed to believe your pairing is right and express that you feel the other is wrong canon-wise.
Please, add more rules if you find them necessary, though I know some of these rules are the same thing worded differently. Most people don't seem to understand that THIS is what the alliance is about. It's not about thinking both pairings are legitimately canon, or that debating either side makes you not part of the alliance.
Though honestly, these shouldn't even need to be rules, they are rules of etiquette and dignity to the common man that apply to all circumstances if you change the words Cleris and Cloti around to other things. Hating someone for a personal preference is immature.
Bottom line. Don't hate a person because they like a friggin different two fictional people as a couple.
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Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 6:14 am
Sadly, FFG will just call that a rabid cloti ploy. I say this not based on her being a C/A supporter, but based her being a complete nutter who's working to set herself up as the queen bee of Clerith.
But you both saw how she crashed and burned in Devotion, she got very, very defensive when I suggested she should rejoin the debate and support her claims.
FFG doesn't want this alliance, and that's why she's lying, because she sees C/T supporters as not simply the competition or the opposition, but as 'The Enemy' in that faceless McCarthyist way. She, and a few close sycophants bray very loudly in an attempt to retain control, and it works on those who view the debate not as a matter of preference or the contents of the continuity, but as a matter of validation. People like the sock puppet troll we had awhile back.
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Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 8:17 am
"Don't step on the flowers!"
Indeed. It's kind of sad really. I'm glad yourself and about three or four other mods came in there and told her to knock off the flamming.
At least Lunar has nothing to be ashamed of. I also don't believe our mutual Cleris friends are the type of people who would turn their backs on Lunar just because the queen b.... of Cleris has. Odd that FFG can say that Lunar's so awful in the guilds over here when not only are both guild leaders in each other's guilds, but they specifically ask Lunar for her opinions over there.
Well, no more time should be wasted on this anyways. It's plainly clear that those rabid girls are to blame, and at least Lunar won't feel the need to defend FFG any longer. Plus, those rabid girls are on the slippery slope to being caught for their mules. Knowing they'll get some sort of justice for the kind of things they've done to my friends is sort of sweet in a way. The Almighty Ban Hammer is the ultimate in internet justice. XD
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Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 8:52 am
Not quite. The ban is high up there, but it's not the ultimate. The Final Solution might be, however. Nothing like completely ignoring someone to cause them to explode. It takes quite a bit of doing, however, so the banhammer's much more useful in most cases.
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Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 9:13 am
"Don't step on the flowers!"
Very true. I'm slowly but surely trying to seperate myself from referring to them, even if it's not by name. Put them on my ignore list here, and got everyone else involved to do the same.
Obviously we are dealing with a specific type of bully (my father's an international bullying speaker, so I've got a tiny bit of knowledge when it comes to this sort of thing.) Ignoring them is good, and it'll drive them crazy, but it's also a huge hit to their honour if they get banned. Anyways, I've edited my father's website enough to know that the absolute best way to deal with bullies is to do both. Ignore them, and then inform someone in authority.
Here on Gaia I'm not holding my breathe since I've had reports I sent over a year ago come back to me, and by that time there's nothing to be done. Perhaps the amount of people this has affected will cause for something a little faster, but I doubt it. Their offense is annoying, but it's not painful. Nobody likes having their username being displayed and having people flat out lie about them, but at the same time, I'm not loosing sleep over it. I just want them to get what they have coming, so they don't go around with this inflated ego at never being touched.
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Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 6:11 pm
Balthea
"Don't step on the flowers!"
Indeed. It's kind of sad really. I'm glad yourself and about three or four other mods came in there and told her to knock off the flamming.
At least Lunar has nothing to be ashamed of. I also don't believe our mutual Cleris friends are the type of people who would turn their backs on Lunar just because the queen b.... of Cleris has. Odd that FFG can say that Lunar's so awful in the guilds over here when not only are both guild leaders in each other's guilds, but they specifically ask Lunar for her opinions over there.
Well, no more time should be wasted on this anyways. It's plainly clear that those rabid girls are to blame, and at least Lunar won't feel the need to defend FFG any longer. Plus, those rabid girls are on the slippery slope to being caught for their mules. Knowing they'll get some sort of justice for the kind of things they've done to my friends is sort of sweet in a way. The Almighty Ban Hammer is the ultimate in internet justice. XD "I have in my hands the means, and in my heart, the will." Exactly. If they didn't want to hear my Cloti opinion, why did they ask for it? Hoping they could disprove it wrong, and then when they can't, they call me a backstabber? :/ That doesn't make much sense. Thanks for putting the rules of an alliance up. =D That's exactly how I feel about it. Unfortunately, some people are going to continue to act like children when others wish to act like adults. Like Ryu said, anything we're saying here that they are copy pasting will be seen as a treacherous Cloti act. Because, they have to oppress us Clotis, in order to create their perfect Cleris world, or some messed up s**t like that. rolleyes
Psh, I regret ever have defended her! What an explosive temper, especially when I didn't even do anything. rofl Of course, her anger towards me has been bottled up for " a long time now " . I can't imagine why. I've been nothing but nice in the Cleris Forums, and I've never argued a single point with them there. In the Cleris Guild here, I only tell them my opinion when they ask for it, like Balthea said. So, I don't understand. I think the only thing that was copy pasted from the C/A Forums is the thing LookThar posted. Evenso, they blamed me, but that wasn't me who posted that. :/ I even told him to change his post. rolleyes
I can't believe I called FF_G a sweet heart. D : < Some people are good at hiding their TRUE colors. Yeah, I hope the Cleris fans that are nice to us here, won't say I'm a backstabber because FF_G announces the word, lol. It's kind of like the incident I had back at StrifeHeart awhile ago. A lot of people thought I was treated unfairly there. (long story)
Well, whatever. I don't want to be apart of either SH or the C/A Forums, if they can't discuss things without biting one anothers' heads off. :/
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Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 8:24 pm
Hmm.....maybe I should join the AC forums too....everyone's getting their piece of drama, lol. Then again, I'm still recovering from the stress that the mule-lover AG97 stirred up.
*Sighs* I'm not surprised that the Cleris fans are getting riled up a lot lately. If only they were more civilized. *Hugs Lunar* I'm sorry that happened to you!
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Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 4:51 am
"I have in my hands the means, and in my heart, the will." Awe, you should join Twin! It took me forever to join, but I finally did after thinking about it for ages. x'D
Just don't post in Devotion. P: Because just by BEING Cloti, you are seen as a hellish being with no life, no matter what you say or how polite you say it. rofl
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Posted: Sun May 04, 2008 8:09 pm
Okay, I'll avoid it. Though, maybe I'll check out Devotion out of morbid curiosity. xd
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