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 Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 6:36 pm
I apologize. I have a habit of hijacking threads. I just enjoy a good debate/argument.
Also, I'm not male. My avatar isn't either, for that matter. But you're not the first, nor are you the last, to mistake my gender. So it's ok.
But as for the topic, I'd look into different stones and crystals and whatnot. Certain ones might have properties that are conducive to storing energy. And...I guess you could make one of them into a keychain or something. But it's not hard to carry a small stone around with you everywhere. I've done it for years.
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Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 8:32 pm
@ChiyuriYami: Think of it like a simple electrical circuit. The battery would be "The Source" or that non-physical place at the source of all creation. You pull energy from the battery through the wires (which you could equate to your mind, your will, the fabric of the physical, whatever) and you use it to light up the the bulb (which would be you, or your goal or what-have-you) and then the electrons go back to the battery.
You can't light up a bulb without having a complete circuit. Only when the electrons are allowed to flow from the battery, through the wires, through the bulb, then back to the battery will the bulb light up. That is how I see "spiritual energy" as returning to its source.
@Jou Kyoushu: I think that something like a bone or tooth could be used. Any number of stones or metal objects could also be used. I would consider anything of natural origin (and plastic items are the only things I think wouldn't work as well, really) as being a plausible "psi battery". I'm not sure if I would use Iron though, as it is sometimes considered a kind of drain on spiritual energies and the like. Silver, however, I would think would work quite well.
You mentioned a keychain; have you maybe considered a silver ring or the like?
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Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 4:45 am
@Obscure: That's one way to see it but it still look odd for me.
If I am the wires to this battery, and pull out energy for my own body then send it back since it still was in the circuit, then how does energy that I pull out of the wires (me) go back into the circuit?
@Jou Kyoushu: can you be more precice as to why you need to do that? There might be different approche to do what you want that would work better.
Also for things that would contain energy longuer, Anything that is often near psi/spiritual energy tend to keep it more. Flesh, Bones, Blood.. these are perfect material to keep energy within. Those who use stone usualy does something special to it for it to become a good container. I know a way but to me it seem rather useless to do it and is complicated to explain if you don't have the same base then me in Psi.
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Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 5:58 pm
Sorry, Dras, but when I said 'guys'. I wasn't indicating a specific gender. I usually refer to a group of people, no matter the gender, as 'guys'.
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Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 8:09 pm
Jou Kyoushu Sorry, Dras, but when I said 'guys'. I wasn't indicating a specific gender. I usually refer to a group of people, no matter the gender, as 'guys'. Yeah, but you used the personal pronoun "he" when referring to me. But, like I said, it really doesn't matter.
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Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 8:21 pm
ChiyuriYami @Obscure: That's one way to see it but it still look odd for me. If I am the wires to this battery, and pull out energy for my own body then send it back since it still was in the circuit, then how does energy that I pull out of the wires (me) go back into the circuit? Where do you think the spiritual energy that you use comes from anyway? From the food you eat? From your soul's interaction with the non-physical? Whatever your ideas about it, it had to come from the Source in the first place. It returning to the Source and then flowing back to you could be seen as a sub-circuit within my analogy given above. If it still doesn't make sense to you then don't force it. A lot of people don't see the world as I do and that's fine.
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Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 5:45 am
Obscurus ChiyuriYami @Obscure: That's one way to see it but it still look odd for me. If I am the wires to this battery, and pull out energy for my own body then send it back since it still was in the circuit, then how does energy that I pull out of the wires (me) go back into the circuit? Where do you think the spiritual energy that you use comes from anyway? From the food you eat? From your soul's interaction with the non-physical? Whatever your ideas about it, it had to come from the Source in the first place. It returning to the Source and then flowing back to you could be seen as a sub-circuit within my analogy given above. If it still doesn't make sense to you then don't force it. A lot of people don't see the world as I do and that's fine. well at first, to me it seemed it was made instead of came from. To me, I feel a whole set of flows all around my body and inside and the spiritual energy seem to be comming from a few center point in the flows. I can'ty really point out exactly where those center are but they are a few and there is atless maybe 5 or 6.. Two that I am sure of is one at the head and one a little under the chest. If you read some of my past post in other threads, you might hear the term "spiritual system" somewhere. That is usualy the term I use to name those flows around and inside my body. That might explain how it goes back to the source but it would mean that the energy knows where we are located or actually just pulled over like gravity to the one who it belong. I'll try a few test to see that.
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Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 6:50 pm
DrasBrisingr Jou Kyoushu Sorry, Dras, but when I said 'guys'. I wasn't indicating a specific gender. I usually refer to a group of people, no matter the gender, as 'guys'. Yeah, but you used the personal pronoun "he" when referring to me. But, like I said, it really doesn't matter. Again, I apologise... PS: Does anyone know any good sources of kinetic/magick info?
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Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 6:54 pm
Obscurus The way I see so-called "spiritual energy" is that it also conforms to the Law of Conservation of Energy. Sure, there is an amount of it so large that it may as well be called infinite, in my opinion, but it still conforms to that law. Afterall, everything within the Universe is everything that there is, was, or ever will be. I include any spiritual or "astral" realms in my definition of the Universe. You draw your spiritual energy from somewhere and it goes back to that place (eventually) after you're done with it. I see "spiritual energy" as just being more subtle than "physical energy". Physical energy is only affected by things like gravity when in the vicinity of very massive objects (or super-massive, like black holes). The main difference I see between physical and spiritual energies is that spiritual energy can be tapped from anywhere at anytime if one has the know-how to do so. Then again, wasn't Tesla supposed to be working on free, wireless energy anywhere in the world? Zero-point energy if I'm not mistaken? Either way, I don't think it's really necessary to go on and on about since we're getting off topic. As far as things that can contain psi or spiritual energy (I see both as the same thing, essentially), the first thing that popped into my mind was gems, crystals, or stones. Maybe some metallic objects. I think in order for it to be retrieved at a later time you'd have to program it somehow to keep the energy from leaching out of the object over time. Even physical batteries will lose energy when left for a long time. Seems entropy is an inescapable part of existence. Anyway, my two cents. I agree, to a point. I believe the human body (I can't find the word I'm looking for here) translates the energy into a form we can use, like a hydroelectric dam.
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Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 8:07 pm
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Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 9:27 pm
ChiyuriYami Obscurus ChiyuriYami @Obscure: That's one way to see it but it still look odd for me. If I am the wires to this battery, and pull out energy for my own body then send it back since it still was in the circuit, then how does energy that I pull out of the wires (me) go back into the circuit? Where do you think the spiritual energy that you use comes from anyway? From the food you eat? From your soul's interaction with the non-physical? Whatever your ideas about it, it had to come from the Source in the first place. It returning to the Source and then flowing back to you could be seen as a sub-circuit within my analogy given above. If it still doesn't make sense to you then don't force it. A lot of people don't see the world as I do and that's fine. well at first, to me it seemed it was made instead of came from. To me, I feel a whole set of flows all around my body and inside and the spiritual energy seem to be comming from a few center point in the flows. I can'ty really point out exactly where those center are but they are a few and there is atless maybe 5 or 6.. Two that I am sure of is one at the head and one a little under the chest. If you read some of my past post in other threads, you might hear the term "spiritual system" somewhere. That is usualy the term I use to name those flows around and inside my body. That might explain how it goes back to the source but it would mean that the energy knows where we are located or actually just pulled over like gravity to the one who it belong. I'll try a few test to see that. I think you may just be overthinking it, but like I said, not everyone sees the world the way I do. @Jou Kyoushu: I agree with you that the energy might be adapted, but I feel that deep down it's really the same thing. First Matter becoming myriad forms through Transformation. But that's just my Hermetic way of thinking.
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Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 12:27 pm
So, according to my research and some help from people within the guild, I have come to a conclusion that a silver piece of jewelry would be the best king of Psi Battery.
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Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 12:28 pm
Jou Kyoushu So, according to my research and some help from people within the guild, I have come to a conclusion that a silver piece of jewelry would be the best king of Psi Battery. Good. Let us know how it turns out.
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Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 9:42 am
Bad news, gang. I'm too poor to afford anything of quality..... gonk
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Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 2:48 pm
Jou Kyoushu Bad news, gang. I'm too poor to afford anything of quality..... gonk Go to a thrift store or something and find something sterling silver. It'll be less expensive there. From what I've read, though, I'm thinking you should perform some sort of cleansing on it to clear out anything from the previous owner? I don't know, it just seems like something Azana would suggest.
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