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i've read all through this and i feel i have to mention something that hasn't been mentioned yet....

i'm anti abortion myself, and so are my friends. and so when my friend got pregnant through rape, she was all for keeping it. she didn't report her rape, and the guy that raped her found her and beat her...she didn't report that either...but when she got her next ultrasound three months later, the baby was barely alive, the water bag was half-empty and sucked in around him, and he had stopped developing at the point of time of the last ultrasound. the fact her son was a live was a miracle, but he wasn't going to make it much longer. she got an abortion and to this day she still cries about the fact that she killed her child.

or the time my friends mother was in a car accident while pregnant and a pole or something went through her uterus and cut the baby in half. the baby was still alive but really, how? she got an abortion too, though it nearly killed her to do so.

sometimes, the situation just calls for it. before these two experiences occured around me, i was 100% against it. but now i say---if the baby has no chance of living, why try to give it a life. both of those babies would have been stillborn.

i totally agree with what you said song. the fetus dieing is the only reason why a mother should be allowed to abort....so long as it will be dead before it is born. mothers who kill their children because they have a higher chance of having spinal bifida or something like that make me angry!!!!

as for my friend...we live in a town where justice seems to be missing, unfortunately. the law enfocrement people tend to be biased against certain families, to the point that my friends attempt to get a restraining order after he called and threatened to kill her daughters was refused. in fact, another friend was unable to get the man who drugged and raped her when she was 14 behind bars...even though they knew who he was and had undeniable proof. they refused to even take him to trial.

i am so sorry for what you went through. my sincerest apologies.

lol, you shouldn't apologies, It was when I was really little, they didn't rape me it was more like. .well it wasn't rape. I don't want pity.

I'm sorry that your towns justice isn't up to par and people are bias there. That's ridiculous and should be complained about. My father is in the an attorney and he's running for judge where I'm from so hopefully after he enters into judgeship he'll be able to make an impact. I'm actually really excited about all the things he's going to do. He's speaks three languages so he'll be able to help with the Spanish community as well. ^.^

Answering to 1. A girl at the age of nineteen is as capable of delivering a child as a twenty seven year old. And because girls are developing earlier they are sometimes even able to have a healthy birthing at the age of fourteen. Mentally, a girl can handle it. We are all mint to be mothers no matter what people say and just because a girl is taken away from her teen days and brought into mother hood a little early it will not screw up their mental state and cause them to go crazy.

Answering 2. I understand that. It is horrible for the mother and usually she goes into a state of depression. But it's not over the baby that she is usually crying and sadden about. It's usually the horrible thing that has happened to her and she's wondering why her.

Answering 3. I don't really understand what your getting at with this statement because I understand that. I would rather people abstain from sex till their married or at least past college.

Answering 4 Why have one more innocent child have it's life taken away rather than give it a chance to make something of what it's been given. That's like saying living is killing the kid. Killing is killing the kid.

Answer to 5. Biology professor informed me of this. I doubt it's till it's a month and even if it is. You can't even abort till past a month so it would still be killing the child.

Answer to 6. Ok, their life isn't ruined if they have to focus on a child instead of themselves. That's may change the way they act but it doesn't ruin there life.

Answer to 7. As I said in a previous post I think that if the child were to die or the mother than abortion should be acceptable but what I'm trying to address is when women are aborting a perfectly healthy child.

Answer to 8. That's contradicting in a way. If a child is born with a defect it has just as much right o live as anyone else. I know people with some of the rarest cases of disabilities and their as happy as a lark. My sister even has what some would call a defect and we don't treat her any different than I treat you. Just because a child may have communicating problems doesn't mean it deserves to be dubbed as idiot or unworthy.

Answer to 9 Actually the mother should take care of the child. And as for the children in foster care. I plan on adopting. I will not pay for every child because that's ridiculous the father should pay for his child not a complete stranger that is in support of it. And as we speak I am already paying for a child's education so please, don't think I'm not trying to help.


((FYI. . . I wrote that post a very long time ago and my grammar and ideas have improved {at least I think they have} so some of the stuff in there was a tyrant because I was getting arguments from unstudied people about rape and other things so some of it was directed to someone.))

not pity...more like empathy. and i always apologize for the horrible things in peoples lives...i started doing years ago

so am i....but complain all we will, nothing is done. i hope your father gets the judgeship...and i hope he is able to make as big a difference as he possibly can.

and as for the different kind of abortion techniques...yes, there are many different ways to abort. but each one has a devastating toll on the child and the mother...did you know that the day after pill can cause clots? these clots can form anywhere in the body, including the brain. that can lead to death. and in many cases of any type of clinical abortions, there is the risk of a rare but serious disease that leads to death. not to mention infections that can cause sterility or death...it just isn't a good choice.

imagine you are the fetus...say you are six weeks along. tests have shown that a fetus at this stage can feel pain. now assume your mother decides to abort you...imagine the feeling...imagine the pain...imagine being sucked away from your safe haven, ripped apart, drawn out. could you do that to your child?

and as for ocndoms and the pill not working...if you ain't ready to be a mom, you ain't ready to have sex. simple as that.

i know it doesn't stop teenagers...and that eally does sadden me. but in most states, a teenager is required to have a parents permission.

i have ptsd as well. and i'm single and pregnant. my ptsd would not allow me to raise the child on my own, so my mom and stepdad will have guardianship of her. this gives a safe home where i will still be allowed to be with her and she will be loved.

i can respect your view of not wanting to ptu your child through foster care. i myself was raised in the system till i was adopted at 11...it is horrible. i just wonder if you know that in many instances, an infant has a family before it is even born AND the mother has the oppurtunity to meet the family and make sure it is a safe environment even after the child is born.

i respect that you are prochoice. as i mentioned in earlier posts, i am not but i also believe that in special circumstances like the ones i mentioned it is best to abort. however, i will still argue my side because many times i have found that young women have abortions largely because they are misinformed, or because of the outside influences on them. for example, the father makes the decision to abort and the mother is expected to go along with it. in a way, i am sort of prochoice because i believe that in the end, it should be the mothers choice, not the choice of family and friends or strangers who are picketing. but i also believe that the father should have a say as well. single fathers would be more common if women would realize that men are just as capable of raising the child. and it goes both ways---just because the father doesn't want the child doesn't mean the mother doesn't, and if she decides to keep it, she is often alone in raising it. but just because the mother doesn't want the child doesn't mean the father doesn't---shouldn't he have the equal chance of raising the child alone.

yes, i would have a child that i knew was going to be severely disabled. they may bring the most hardship, but they also bring the most joy.

i applaud you for saying that when you get ready to have sex, you will most likely get your tubes tied. since you don't want kids, that is the smartest choice you could make. if more women were as wise as you, there would be less unwanted children and less abortions.

as for most states not allowing you to have an abortion after three weeks, i don't see how that could possibly be so as the majority of women who find out they are pregnant don't find out until the second month, usually around six weeks.

and as for abusive parents---they are abusive because they haven't been taught better, or because they were abused, or because they simply didn't know that doing this or that would hurt the child. the child changing your life usually has nothing to do with it---babies change your life. period. its true in every single case, not just a handful. more often then not, abuse is due to what i mentioned, or drugs and alcohol.