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 Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 1:15 pm
Wings of Aegis @Mitsch's imitation of Sin The only difference is, I can UNDERSTAND what you typed. gonk Quote: I think that lapis puts up with too much bullshit because she wants to please everyone and be on everyone's good-side. I can't blame her, but there comes a time when you have to stick to your guns. See, the thing I don't get is, I see myself as being a bit more tolerant and 'aims to please' than Psyche is. And yet my guild, though not quite as active, has NEVER had problems like hers. In any case, Lobo...you didn't need to aplogize for anything. They're just too caught up in the fantasy of it all, and trying to conform everyone to the same mindset. Don't give them the satisfaction. PS: Sin PMed me about my quitting. I gave up trying to read it after the first three lines. Something about trying to justify her banning my friend for defending me in PMs, I think. neutral I didn't know you disliked me soo much... Its kinda surprising... I always thought of you as a friend... hm... In any case read above statement I thought you'd try to understand... That I did have a reason to Ban your friend. I gave her three warnings which she ignored. She was openly insulting me calling me fluffy and delusional. After I warned her both in a PM and in the guild she continued to insult me. She tried to lie to Psyche saying that she didn't write anything to be Baned for. She openly admitted writing it in the PM. When I confronted her about her lying and told her why it wouldn't work, she then said she didn't want to be part of a guild of delusional fluffies anyways then threatened to accuse me of stalking. I thought that maybe if you understood the reasons for the Ban you wouldn't hold it against Psyche. I mean, I know your friend was defending your beliefs but the way she did it was against guild rules much less thread rules. I don't understand why you or Lobo would leave I don't understand why Lobo was mad because I edited something I thought he would have appreciated edited If I had known I would have changed it back. He could have PM'd me. Or you could have if you had a problem with my actions concerning your friend. Or your friend could have apologized and stopped acting the way that she was in the guild.
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Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 1:33 pm
Sinesthera Mitsh
SIGH.... cant you just get like over the fact that HEY LOOK I TYPE DIFFERENT ooh scary I mean it's not like I'm not like going to like write proper SENTANCES so if you just cant read what i write then mayb you should try going to college OH WAIT I FORGOT despite the fact i am in college Like right now my walls of text refuse to break themselfs dowm to i dont know Digestible sentences instead of one giant crate full of words words words. so what are you going to do. what are your thoughts are you like oh My god even though there isnt Sucha thing why is mitsh posting like sin or why is maybe its because its just uncomprehendible and you should quit trying magick and psionics ^_^
And now I need to go rub a scouring pad all over my brain for doing that. Read statement above Like yah totally thanks for like being Sooo like conventionally egotistically dickish If you don't understand what I write you can ask me to clarify I offer that as a constant As to them being incomprehensible I know what they mean. Other people seem to understand. They don't seem to find my logic and thoughts ooh so terribly unbelievable Any question a person may have about what I am saying I can answer Instead of making statements behind my back it would be nice i you know, you Asked me to clarify anything you may have read. If you want me to edit a post to make it easier to read I can do that to If you Ask. I won't as a general rule Grammar Nazi all of my posts. I sympathise for your ordeals, and I apologise for insulting your dyslexia. I won't apologise for being OMG SIN SUCKS, however, because I still think you do. If you do annoying things, don't expect us to go easy on you purely because you've had a tough lot.
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Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 1:34 pm
Leave you unwelcomed soul. Mitsh don't apologize for dyslexia. It's a minor disorder, plenty of people have it, and to use it as an excuse is a sorry a** thing to do.
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Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 1:41 pm
Mitsh Sinesthera Mitsh
SIGH.... cant you just get like over the fact that HEY LOOK I TYPE DIFFERENT ooh scary I mean it's not like I'm not like going to like write proper SENTANCES so if you just cant read what i write then mayb you should try going to college OH WAIT I FORGOT despite the fact i am in college Like right now my walls of text refuse to break themselfs dowm to i dont know Digestible sentences instead of one giant crate full of words words words. so what are you going to do. what are your thoughts are you like oh My god even though there isnt Sucha thing why is mitsh posting like sin or why is maybe its because its just uncomprehendible and you should quit trying magick and psionics ^_^
And now I need to go rub a scouring pad all over my brain for doing that. Read statement above Like yah totally thanks for like being Sooo like conventionally egotistically dickish If you don't understand what I write you can ask me to clarify I offer that as a constant As to them being incomprehensible I know what they mean. Other people seem to understand. They don't seem to find my logic and thoughts ooh so terribly unbelievable Any question a person may have about what I am saying I can answer Instead of making statements behind my back it would be nice i you know, you Asked me to clarify anything you may have read. If you want me to edit a post to make it easier to read I can do that to If you Ask. I won't as a general rule Grammar Nazi all of my posts. I sympathise for your ordeals, and I apologise for insulting your dyslexia. I won't apologise for being OMG SIN SUCKS, however, because I still think you do. If you do annoying things, don't expect us to go easy on you purely because you've had a tough lot. Oh well thats fine then. Its not like I haven't had to deal with people disliking my personality. I just always feel upset when people dislike me for surface issues which don't have much bearing on who I am as a person. I mean be annoyed with my actions, if you find my actions annoying, not necessarily with me. Why exactly do I suck? What would you like me to change that is in my control to change which doesn't go against my principals? I have gotten slightly better since I started using fire fox which points out the mistakes I make in spelling. Without that little red line I would never actually notice any of the mistakes I make.
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Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 1:48 pm
a**l Jesus Leave you unwelcomed soul. Mitsh don't apologize for dyslexia. It's a minor disorder, plenty of people have it, and to use it as an excuse is a sorry a** thing to do. Hello person I have never met before? Why am I unwelcome to you? I think its probably prompted by some deeper depression and is probably caused by that. I haven't had to deal with it all my life though so that in combination with increasing mood disorders has had me a little off my stride so to speak. Though my grammar has always been sub par I usually don't make that many spelling mistakes when I am paying attention. I know how to spell recently I have been unable to distinguish between proper spelling and proper pronunciation and improper spelling. Thus the increase in ability to function the time frame in which I have been trying to learn how to cope and other factors have contributed to my lack of ability to function in general. Also my past laise fair approach to grammar in conjunction with the net. It is not meant to search for an apology but more for others to understand my reasons and thus to judge them as they wish. That I have reasons for being the way I am as you have reasons for being the way you are should probably be considered in your assessment of me and vica versa... etc.
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Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 1:50 pm
I don't like you for the simple fact that a majority doesn't like you. Fair enough? Now, shoo you little pest.
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Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 1:52 pm
a**l Jesus I don't like you for the simple fact that a majority doesn't like you. Fair enough? Now, shoo you little pest. Isn't what your saying an example of group think one of the things that people in this guild have been accusing MR of as a Bad thing? I mean why dislike a person with no personal reason and no personal understanding I mean, if you picked apart all of my posts explaining to me exactly why you disliked me and gave me a way to defend myself which you then thought didn't excuse the behaviors which you disliked then I would think it would be perfectly reasonable for you to dislike me.
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Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 1:53 pm
1) You are the biggest committer of Vox Nihili I have met aside from Mendele. You can say things that're completely empty and have very little bearing on... anything. You can say so much without saying anything at all. When you talk about practical magick or psionics, you never say /how/ to do things, eg: Sinesthera To recieve energy First you have to have some sort of Open Channel in order to take information on that level in. These channels may already exist but be blocked or they may not exist or exist in a very shitty condition. These are people who recieve skewed information because they can't open channel or can only open them partially. To code energy you have to learn to differentiate types of energy. Now this is what gives people the hardest time. Learning to tell the differences between subtle veins of energy and learn to code it properly into colors shapes distance ETC. This can take alot of time and there are several differnt ways a person can organise information. All of this is based on what information a person is given to work with. People who rely on already existing sences which they gain access to through various means rely on who created those sences depth of skill in creation. A persons natural form of cource has a pattern of perception and natural way of percieving but of cource people may not have access to this or may make there own. Alot of that to has to deal with mental coding plasticity of experience etc. Which is pretty damn incomprehensible. 2) You edit and delete posts as you see fit. I'm aware that's one of your duties as a moderator, but when it comes to backing up arguments or proving a point, it's really ******** irritating. I don't think there's any post serious enough that it requires to be deleted outright, unless it's just ridiculous. 3) It's incredibly difficult to understand what you mean at the best of times, since you rarely use punctuation. I'm all for conversational tone - hell, I use it myself. But it's pretty hard to discern what you're saying when you type as though your speaking. Cusseck, fai did that, peopled proly iff no idea whatem oner bout.
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Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 1:56 pm
Quit asking questions, you'll get no answers. Your posts make no ******** sense. Don't you dare pull that dyslexia card on me, because unlike some poeple I lack the ability to give a ********. So here's how it is:
You make no sense.
You ask too many questions.
You don't know when to STFU.
The more you talk, the more I have reason to dislike you.
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Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 1:59 pm
Quote: Interesting analogy Another one may be Truth rings a clear note, while lies are discordant To those whose ears can hear clearly the truth will always be heard Why not cast a true note to try to bring some measure of order to discord? What is the point of harmonics if not this? If there is enough truth in the world... enough harmony then discord will not prevail To keep the watter all to your self does nothing for those who are dying for lack What better more then to try to teach how to create filters... to teach logic Logic and semantics aren't One though Yes of course they can highly compliment each other Yet if a persons logic holds true why then pick on the wording a person uses to convey those thoughts? I don't understand anything other than the words alone in that... Quote: I could have sworn he was... Or at least contributed to converse I'm fairly sure he did until his post was moved to the GARBAGE subforum when he was interviewing everyone and making a quiz type thing that would get everyone to know the other better. Around that time is when I noticed him not being so active. Quote: Well... how will people learn if you don't confront them... Alot of people have a tendency not to question their beliefs. It can sometimes help if they get a little prompting Also they may not have considered whatever you might have had to say. I doubt if this was the case they would get upset with you If confrontation and teaching were the onle ways to learn then every single bit of knowledge we have today would be complete and total fallacy. Yes, it does sometimes help to have someone push you against your beliefs to see if they will fall, but Psychelapis didn't do that, she simply pushed me into something she thought was my beliefs, what she did was push me away with her attitude toward my personality. I don't understand the relevance of your post to what Obscurus was saying, please clarify? Quote: I showed that to my boyfriend he thought it was funny too Though I must say... it is not nice to make fun of someone who's dyslexic I actually Tried to use proper grammar and well... about 3 months latter someone assualted me tried to rape me. I started developing signs of dyslexia interupted sleeping patterns and both my constant head ache and my twitch became more prominent. So I would appreciate it if you would please stop being so (OMG SIN Sucks cause she has bad grammar) Its not like I don't have stress issues to try to deal with K? You know why I continue to have bad grammar you know my reasoning. With my currant state I actually can't speak properly anymore and even when talking I make dyslexic ******** ups. So life for you has been less than kind? Take a number, stand in line. I have learning issues, I have nerve issues, I have eyesight issues. I have three bulging discs in my mid back, which make it hard to sit here in this crappy computer chair. I have bad eyesight and a bad insomnia which makes every moment staring at this monitor horrible pain for my eyes. I have nerve issues which make my hands twitch a lot unexpectedly. "I" have carpal tunnel syndrome in BOTH of my hands which makes it very hard to type properly. And I have mental problems from a crappy living style too. Don't we all have our own problems that we can use as an excuse to not use spell check? I'm fairly sure Dyslexia doesn't prevent anyone from using spell check, if it does then I'll admit I'm sorry, but I'm fairly certain it doesn't. Here is a list of multiple spell check programs you can use. Microsoft Word Mozilla Firefox 2.0 SpellchexieSpell - Spell checker add on for Internet ExplorerOrangooIf any of those don't work just look it up in google. Quote: Read statement above Like yah totally thanks for like being Sooo like conventionally egotistically dickish If you don't understand what I write you can ask me to clarify I offer that as a constant As to them being incomprehensible I know what they mean. Other people seem to understand. They don't seem to find my logic and thoughts ooh so terribly unbelievable Any question a person may have about what I am saying I can answer Instead of making statements behind my back it would be nice i you know, you Asked me to clarify anything you may have read. If you want me to edit a post to make it easier to read I can do that to If you Ask. I won't as a general rule Grammar Nazi all of my posts. Every problem I've said behind your back I've said to your face also. Everything I say about you I would say to your face, that goes for everyone. If I call someone a loser behind their back, I am more than willing to say it to their face. I find at least 80% of your posts to be either incomprehensible or I have to at least re-read it three times. A perfect example of incomprehensibility is you being sarcastic(I think???) right there. You CANNOT put direct tone into letters the way you would verbally speak accurately. That is why we do something to point out sarcasm, or when we're immitating someone, when we're being p***k-ish. Mitsh did just that, he put in his post, that made his post 90% more understandable. He probably wouldn't be a moderator if he didn't do things such as this, he wouldn't be understandable. You should learn to do these internet-geek type things. For instance; did it ever occur to you to type in your post? Or do you not know html?
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Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 2:10 pm
Sinesthera Wings of Aegis @Mitsch's imitation of Sin The only difference is, I can UNDERSTAND what you typed. gonk Quote: I think that lapis puts up with too much bullshit because she wants to please everyone and be on everyone's good-side. I can't blame her, but there comes a time when you have to stick to your guns. See, the thing I don't get is, I see myself as being a bit more tolerant and 'aims to please' than Psyche is. And yet my guild, though not quite as active, has NEVER had problems like hers. In any case, Lobo...you didn't need to aplogize for anything. They're just too caught up in the fantasy of it all, and trying to conform everyone to the same mindset. Don't give them the satisfaction. PS: Sin PMed me about my quitting. I gave up trying to read it after the first three lines. Something about trying to justify her banning my friend for defending me in PMs, I think. neutral I didn't know you disliked me soo much... Its kinda surprising... I always thought of you as a friend... hm... In any case read above statement I thought you'd try to understand... That I did have a reason to Ban your friend. I gave her three warnings which she ignored. She was openly insulting me calling me fluffy and delusional. After I warned her both in a PM and in the guild she continued to insult me. She tried to lie to Psyche saying that she didn't write anything to be Baned for. She openly admitted writing it in the PM. When I confronted her about her lying and told her why it wouldn't work, she then said she didn't want to be part of a guild of delusional fluffies anyways then threatened to accuse me of stalking. I thought that maybe if you understood the reasons for the Ban you wouldn't hold it against Psyche. I mean, I know your friend was defending your beliefs but the way she did it was against guild rules much less thread rules. I don't understand why you or Lobo would leave I don't understand why Lobo was mad because I edited something I thought he would have appreciated edited If I had known I would have changed it back. He could have PM'd me. Or you could have if you had a problem with my actions concerning your friend. Or your friend could have apologized and stopped acting the way that she was in the guild. Yes, I do have a general dislike for you. You confuse me...but I was really open to trying to get to know you better up until you made me cry and hurt me in the thread where I told my beliefs. And I didn't like how Psyche handled it; I hold that way more against her than banning my friend. I'm extremely loyal, and don't tolerate people who hurt my friends, which did happen. I disagree with how Mysteric Realms is run, and I care less for legallity than I do individuals. I'm a realistic anarchist; it's not just MR, I'm like that in all facets of life. Many may say my moral compass is skewed, but I love people, and once I befriend them they have my loyalty. Thus I care less how she treated you, because in my eyes you instigated it in the first place. I don't hold anything against Psyche for banning her, because Psyche wasn't there; she was being loyal to you just as I am loyal to my friend. I do hold it against Psyche for how she treated me concerning that thread, and I hold other things against her that have nothing to do with the guild so won't be mentioned here, but again deal with my friends. I understand you have dyslexia; it runs in my family, and my best friend I've grown up with since kindergarten has a very severe case of it. However, my family and my friend know how to use, and utilize, spellcheck. Thus while I feel empathy for your disadvantage, I will not apologize for what I've said regarding your grammar and spelling, because it would take less than five minutes to correct it via a computer program. It's not so much the poor grammar and spelling, but the fact you don't value what you say enough to let a program give it a look over for you. And I can tolerate chat speak and bad spelling and grammar just fine, and won't say a word about it, unless it gets to the point where I flat-out can't understand what someone is saying. I've asked you to clarify in the past, but your clarifications are just as hard to read as the original text. The people who have no trouble understanding you are probably linked to you in some way psychically...either that, or they're not being fully truthful. Lobo got hurt. And you had previously hurt me, and a friend of mine was banned. After Lobo was hurt, I just had enough and left. There was no one left in that guild that would cause me to want to stay; I'm not saying there aren't great people in there, just none that I have ever talked to one-on-one, or that I'd call a good friend. You can honestly say you didn't see this coming? The past month or so, the tension in the guild has been so high it was salient; you could practically reach out and touch it.
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Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 2:16 pm
Mitsh 1) You are the biggest committer of Vox Nihili I have met aside from Mendele. You can say things that're completely empty and have very little bearing on... anything. You can say so much without saying anything at all. When you talk about practical magick or psionics, you never say /how/ to do things, eg: Sinesthera To receive energy First you have to have some sort of Open Channel in order to take information on that level in. These channels may already exist but be blocked or they may not exist or exist in a very shitty condition. These are people who receive skewed information because they can't open channel or can only open them partially. To code energy you have to learn to differentiate types of energy. Now this is what gives people the hardest time. Learning to tell the differences between subtle veins of energy and learn to code it properly into colors shapes distance ETC. This can take alot of time and there are several differnt ways a person can organise information. All of this is based on what information a person is given to work with. People who rely on already existing sences which they gain access to through various means rely on who created those sences depth of skill in creation. A persons natural form of cource has a pattern of perception and natural way of percieving but of cource people may not have access to this or may make there own. Alot of that to has to deal with mental coding plasticity of experience etc. Which is pretty damn incomprehensible. 2) You edit and delete posts as you see fit. I'm aware that's one of your duties as a moderator, but when it comes to backing up arguments or proving a point, it's really ******** irritating. I don't think there's any post serious enough that it requires to be deleted outright, unless it's just ridiculous. 3) It's incredibly difficult to understand what you mean at the best of times, since you rarely use punctuation. I'm all for conversational tone - hell, I use it myself. But it's pretty hard to discern what you're saying when you type as though your speaking. Cusseck, fai did that, peopled proly iff no idea whatem oner bout. Let me see... I can make sense of that. You have to have a way to take in energy, channel I mean most of what I was saying can be easily understood in ways that your body processes information. Think of an open channel as lets say Eye Sight Then you need to decode the information that is carried or imprinted in the energy. If you think of the colors which are translated by learning the differences between energy waves. It makes sense The optic nerve transmitting information to your brain which decodes the information into usable information. When trying to sense things which aren't physical you have to create this process your self. The form that you had before being incarnated and gaining a different form already has these modes of interface already formed. I think that this is one of the reason why it takes so long to see things astrally You have to be able to learn how to decode the information that your sensing. I mean... I remember writing that and it seemed to make sense based on the topic. I have only deleted Spam and Posts which were solely insulting and I couldn't find anything in them that left some sort of substance. There are a handful of posts that I have deleted in the guild. A couple of them have been Bumps, a decent amount of the posts I edited were Pengu's for good reason. Others the ones that I considered reasonable for me to edit to delete them were posts calling other people delusional. I remember having to edit out the word fluffy a couple times. And after people complained enough about this one persons posts I finally edited it to fix the spelling three times at most. I actually haven't really done that much as a mod in the guild. You could ask psyche that... I don't really do very much at all. Any post which has an Edited by sin next to it are the only ones I've ever touched accept the ( I think I've only deleted 4-6 posts throughout the years I've been a mod depending on how many posts by guitar hero I deleted. The bulk of posts I deleted were his) As to talking like I speak. I never really noticed. I usually am much more structured in the way I write then the way I speak. I don't use that much slang. I never really thought I was as guilty of that as most of the people I know. I do use punctuation. I just usually use periods rather than other forms. Though this topic isn't about me... I would suggest anything you needed to say be PM'd to me... Its probably better to talk over PM's about any issues with me then to take up space in a guild...
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Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 2:22 pm
In short:
1) I still find your post highly incomprehensible. Maybe it's just me.
2) You've deleted at least one of my posts, which I then couldn't use to back up my argument against being banned from MysRealms.
3) Yes, this should be taken to PMs.
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Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 2:24 pm
Mitsh In short: 1) I still find your post highly incomprehensible. Maybe it's just me. 2) You've deleted at least one of my posts, which I then couldn't use to back up my argument against being banned from MysRealms. 3) Yes, this should be taken to PMs. u were banned from MR? didnt think that from you mitsh :O
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Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 2:27 pm
MikeeBoi1029 Mitsh In short: 1) I still find your post highly incomprehensible. Maybe it's just me. 2) You've deleted at least one of my posts, which I then couldn't use to back up my argument against being banned from MysRealms. 3) Yes, this should be taken to PMs. u were banned from MR? didnt think that from you mitsh :O S'probably because Psyche thought something I said to Pingu was me admitting that I'd taken part in the raid, or known of it beforehand, neither of which were true. When I told her that, she changed her mind and said I was being banned for being excessively rude. It happens. -.-
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