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Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 10:37 pm
If you stretch your hands and your pinky and thumb can make a horizontal line, you're already at the normal limit (is it possible to go pass 180 degrees?). This I have already done, and I'm very unfortunately stuck with hands that can do ninths and very wimpy tenths between select keys. XD
It's definitely a big obstacle in repertoire choices not to be able to play octaves. Some exam boards even demand octave scales as part of their technical requirements in advanced grades.
And didn't Chopin used to sleep with corks inbetween his fingers in an attempt to stretch them? XD
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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 1:58 pm
I managed a 190 degree stretch once. Unfortunately, it hurts like hell(obviously, it is extremely taxing on the tendons and I've cheated to get that stretch, since it's practically inhuman from my observations) and doesn't help(except allowing some minimal expansion to my 180 degree stretch, as in I can stretch 180 degrees with my hands perfectly flat), since 190 degree length is the same as 170 degree, so it's pointless. So now, I'm stretching the joints(very dangerous, I know, but I do it with hands alone, as in stretching as far as a single hand will allow, no "assistance" from the other hand). I went from a somewhat comfortable minor tenth to an awkward major tenth that way.
I know, they demand that in level 9 RCM piano exams.
Ah yes. He was a very lucky man, unlike poor Robert. Of course, young Frycek was a boy at the time, unlike Robert who was a grown man when he attempted to do some...expansion. Plus, Chopin had been associated with flexibility(suppleness, as contemporaries of his said) of the hands and even body, I think, during his lifetime.
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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 4:13 pm
Wings If you stretch your hands and your pinky and thumb can make a horizontal line, you're already at the normal limit (is it possible to go pass 180 degrees?). This I have already done, and I'm very unfortunately stuck with hands that can do ninths and very wimpy tenths between select keys. XD It's definitely a big obstacle in repertoire choices not to be able to play octaves. Some exam boards even demand octave scales as part of their technical requirements in advanced grades. And didn't Chopin used to sleep with corks inbetween his fingers in an attempt to stretch them? XD well, yes. but i haven't been able to stretch my hands that much. mine goes at like.. a 120 degree angle at the moment. neutral over 180?? i would imagine that to hurt, as stated before like hell. D:
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Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 1:51 am
Over 180 is unnatural, really. XD 180 and you're good to go. It's not common for you to be playing with your hands stretched to its maximum anyway, because that eliminates the arch in your hand and really diminishes your power.
I did my finger stretching exercises as a child too, and it's probably much easier than doing it now. I have a friend who's left hand can stretch all the way, but her right hand looks cramped between her thumb and index finger--probably from bad playing position before, but her right hand can't really do octaves, unlike her left. She's trying to stretch it now, but it's proving very difficult now that she's fully grown.
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Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 9:45 am
I can play a ninth at most....but that is honestly a stretch.
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Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 8:30 am
I can reach 11ths, 10ths are comfortable, 9ths are my natural hand size when I put them in an open position on the piano xp (to me the most natural feel is a chord with two fifths, like C G D )
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Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 6:09 am
I can play 9ths....occasionally - it depends on what's in the middle (if any), so I do a lot of rolling - Even octaves are difficult if they're constant and there are notes in the middle (Joplin's Entertainer).
I'm a teacher, and it's sometimes depressing when 3rd grade students can reach as far as I can!
(And yes - I'm stretching the full 180! and I have played Rachmaninoff, Scriabin, Lizst, I just have to work harder at it!)
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Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 10:17 pm
Iannis Xenakis I can reach 11ths, 10ths are comfortable, 9ths are my natural hand size when I put them in an open position on the piano xp (to me the most natural feel is a chord with two fifths, like C G D ) CRAP YO! an 11th??!! DANG. I can barely squeeze a 10th out! Dag yo. Man. If I could reach an 11th, dang I'd be SOO happy.
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Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 6:03 pm
C to C# My hands are freaking tiny
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