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IAmAlwaysHereForYou

PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 2:22 pm


I think an annoying-in-a-funny-way lyric style is when band that try to be metal scream things like "I hate Satan!" "He will redeem us!" It's just oxy-moronish to go about it that way.
PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 4:26 pm


To each his own.

My Hollow
Captain


PandasRGr1mm

PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 6:02 pm


I abhor National Socialist Black Metal. Considering that I already dislike half the Black Metal scene and all the drama surrounding it, any band with NS influences is hated by me. Not disliked, hated scream
PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 6:09 pm


PandasRGr1mm
I abhor National Socialist Black Metal. Considering that I already dislike half the Black Metal scene and all the drama surrounding it, any band with NS influences is hated by me. Not disliked, hated scream


i love true black metal but the NSBM twats are the scum of the earth.

no. if scum wore shoes, they would be the crud on the bottom of the scum's shoes, the stuff the scum washed off and that got swept into a stream of polluted radioactive water and swept into a sewer where it was devoured by rats and then excreted back out into the sewage.

that's NSBM

MegaTherion777


Shadowlit Facade

PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 6:58 pm


*echoes what Mega said* I have boycotted bands purely on ideological bases-- NSBM and some of the first-wave BM bands, for instance.

As for which genres I don't really like...well...I can find bands I don't like as well as like in just about every subgenre, but power (cheesy, usually meaningless, and monotonous), old-school death and black (dissonant, abrasive, and grating), and avant-garde/experimental (I need melody and harmony) are particular standouts.
PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 7:08 pm


MegaTherion777
PandasRGr1mm
I abhor National Socialist Black Metal. Considering that I already dislike half the Black Metal scene and all the drama surrounding it, any band with NS influences is hated by me. Not disliked, hated scream


i love true black metal but the NSBM twats are the scum of the earth.

no. if scum wore shoes, they would be the crud on the bottom of the scum's shoes, the stuff the scum washed off and that got swept into a stream of polluted radioactive water and swept into a sewer where it was devoured by rats and then excreted back out into the sewage.

that's NSBM

Yah, I agree.

PandasRGr1mm


MegaTherion777

PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 7:10 pm


ashlander_alpha
*echoes what Mega said* I have boycotted bands purely on ideological bases-- NSBM and some of the first-wave BM bands, for instance.

As for which genres I don't really like...well...I can find bands I don't like as well as like in just about every subgenre, but power (cheesy, usually meaningless, and monotonous), old-school death and black (dissonant, abrasive, and grating), and avant-garde/experimental (I need melody and harmony) are particular standouts.


wait you boycott the 1st wave bands based on ideology? what ideology is there to boycott in hellhammer, celtic frost, venom, bathory, or mercyful fate? surely you meant the early second wave bands, such as dark funeral, marduk, mayhem, gorgoroth, etc
PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 7:43 pm


MegaTherion777
wait you boycott the 1st wave bands based on ideology? what ideology is there to boycott in hellhammer, celtic frost, venom, bathory, or mercyful fate? surely you meant the early second wave bands, such as dark funeral, marduk, mayhem, gorgoroth, etc

Sorry, yeah. It's been a long time since I brushed up on my metal history, that should've been obvious to me. sweatdrop

Shadowlit Facade


MegaTherion777

PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 7:56 pm


ashlander_alpha
MegaTherion777
wait you boycott the 1st wave bands based on ideology? what ideology is there to boycott in hellhammer, celtic frost, venom, bathory, or mercyful fate? surely you meant the early second wave bands, such as dark funeral, marduk, mayhem, gorgoroth, etc

Sorry, yeah. It's been a long time since I brushed up on my metal history, that should've been obvious to me. sweatdrop


okay, just wanted to make sure
PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 9:10 pm


Dubs, love NSBM, or rather the idea of it. Som love for Nazi's makes me roll my eyes. It's all such an image.

My Hollow
Captain


Rebel of Sanity

PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 3:30 pm


My Hollow
What Genre of Metal really just bugs you?


Me: Power Metal.

I really just don't like it. The vocals are annoying, the guitar solos are too long, the dramatic elemts are over the tops, and usually the lyrics are just cheesy.

I used to really love the genre but no if i find out it's power Metal, I don't even both listening to it. Because 9.9/10 I hate it.
You just described Dragonforce xd

Well, there are some artists in every genre that I really like, but I would have to say that the one genre that I do not really like at all is the Second Wave Black Metal, that s**t scares the s**t out of me. (MayheM specifically) But it isn't the music so much as the ideology, like the murder of other band members and etc.


Isn't Venom the supposed originator of Black metal? (don't hold me to that, it is just a question)
PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 3:36 pm


Rebel of Sanity


Isn't Venom the supposed originator of Black metal? (don't hold me to that, it is just a question)

The term Black Metal, yes. Not the entire genre though. Other bands like Bathory helped.

PandasRGr1mm


MegaTherion777

PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 3:38 pm


Rebel of Sanity
My Hollow
What Genre of Metal really just bugs you?


Me: Power Metal.

I really just don't like it. The vocals are annoying, the guitar solos are too long, the dramatic elemts are over the tops, and usually the lyrics are just cheesy.

I used to really love the genre but no if i find out it's power Metal, I don't even both listening to it. Because 9.9/10 I hate it.
You just described Dragonforce xd

Well, there are some artists in every genre that I really like, but I would have to say that the one genre that I do not really like at all is the Second Wave Black Metal, that s**t scares the s**t out of me. (MayheM specifically) But it isn't the music so much as the ideology, like the murder of other band members and etc.


Isn't Venom the supposed originator of Black metal? (don't hold me to that, it is just a question)


first wave BM bands - venom, hellhammer/celtic frost, mercyful fate, bathory. they all began around the same time, but i think venom was the first.
PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 3:47 pm


MegaTherion777
Rebel of Sanity
My Hollow
What Genre of Metal really just bugs you?


Me: Power Metal.

I really just don't like it. The vocals are annoying, the guitar solos are too long, the dramatic elemts are over the tops, and usually the lyrics are just cheesy.

I used to really love the genre but no if i find out it's power Metal, I don't even both listening to it. Because 9.9/10 I hate it.
You just described Dragonforce xd

Well, there are some artists in every genre that I really like, but I would have to say that the one genre that I do not really like at all is the Second Wave Black Metal, that s**t scares the s**t out of me. (MayheM specifically) But it isn't the music so much as the ideology, like the murder of other band members and etc.


Isn't Venom the supposed originator of Black metal? (don't hold me to that, it is just a question)


first wave BM bands - venom, hellhammer/celtic frost, mercyful fate, bathory. they all began around the same time, but i think venom was the first.

Okay, thanks. What happened between then and Second wave that made things so... not good?

Rebel of Sanity


MegaTherion777

PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 3:57 pm


Rebel of Sanity
MegaTherion777
Rebel of Sanity
My Hollow
What Genre of Metal really just bugs you?


Me: Power Metal.

I really just don't like it. The vocals are annoying, the guitar solos are too long, the dramatic elemts are over the tops, and usually the lyrics are just cheesy.

I used to really love the genre but no if i find out it's power Metal, I don't even both listening to it. Because 9.9/10 I hate it.
You just described Dragonforce xd

Well, there are some artists in every genre that I really like, but I would have to say that the one genre that I do not really like at all is the Second Wave Black Metal, that s**t scares the s**t out of me. (MayheM specifically) But it isn't the music so much as the ideology, like the murder of other band members and etc.


Isn't Venom the supposed originator of Black metal? (don't hold me to that, it is just a question)


first wave BM bands - venom, hellhammer/celtic frost, mercyful fate, bathory. they all began around the same time, but i think venom was the first.

Okay, thanks. What happened between then and Second wave that made things so... not good?


personally i prefer second wave musically. but when you look at the psychology and ideology, it's easily explained. they were a bunch of 17 year old kids who were outcasts from their society. they were different, abandoned by everyone else, they felt alone, and they banded together into these small groups. in their own minds it was quite literall them against the world, every man for himself. in mayhem, dead committed suicide. varg vikernes was paranoid and thought euronymous was planning to kill him, so he struck first - although there is no evidence that big E planned to kill varg. faust's killing of the gay man in lillehammer was an attack on the society that had abandoned him. the church burnings were a form of groupthink - you've got this small society of like-minded individuals who are complete outcasts. they want to make their society pay, so they go burn churches. finally the rivalry between norwegian and swedish 2nd wave bands was about more than just music - although the swedish bands ARE worse. the norwegian bands didnt feel that the swedes were as dedicated to "the cause" they had developed and so they came to despise these "poseurs." what went wrong between first and second wave? it's simple - the second wave members simply weren't mature enough to deal with their problems in a sensible, non-violent way, with the exception of ihsahn from emperor, and the guys in immortal. those guys were sensible, but the other band members were largely immature and dealt with problems poorly. nowadays you see the older members of the 2nd wave, such as samoth and mortiis, regret that the crimes became a part of that wave of black metal. of course, some crazy ******** are still out there, and gaahl from gorgoroth thinks the church-burnings were good and should be done more often. but he's ******** insane.

basically these 17 year olds started out using satan as a metaphor for rebellion, and then got sucked into their own ideology/imagery/mythology and things went to hell. pun intended.
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