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so we don't need to say it, we just show it by the things we do, right?

here's one for you ladies.....


alot of times if i get interested in a girl, me being a nice guy end up being "such a good freind"........
which leads to..no i cant date you, your too good a freind....etc etc etc

what do i do to show i care, and not end up on the"frends" list?

I always try to be a gentleman. I always open doors, ladies first, and reprimand guys for using foul language, "Especially in front of the ladies!!!" I never really get much from it though..... but I always feel good about doing it. biggrin cool

Lol, Dragon, you wouldn't happen to live in OR, would you? I love jumping in the puddles here... ^^

There seems to be quite a few great guys here with problems telling the girl how they feel. I'll see if I can clear it up
If you like her:
1. Be a gentleman, suprise her, do anything to show you care etc. I'm sure that you know all of this. Any litte thing that you can do gains you tons of points.
2. TELL HER! We don't read minds. Even if we know that you like us we still prefer to have you make the first move. I know it's not fair, but that's just how it is. Plus if you say it just right the results might suprise you. If she doesn't like you yet and you think there's no hope, you might want to tell her anyways becase:
a. you'll catch her off guard, before she's already figured out that you like her and classified you as "just a friend"
b. It's flattering, we like to be flattered, if you flatter her enough you might get lucky.

If you are in the oh so painful zone of "just friends" never fear! There is hope. Odds are that you care about her much more than whatever jock she happens to be oogling at the moment. If she's smart she'll realize that, if you help her understand how much you like her.
She probably already knows that you like her, that's why she keeps saying things like "You're such a great friend" or "I'm so lucky to have a friend like you." Hurts doesn't it? Tell her, tell her directly, face to face, in no uncertain terms. Being timid is possibly what got you into this whole situation. Dont' say "Would you like to go to the movies as friends?" She'll see right through that, she isn't dumb. Just ask "Would you like to *insert an activity that involves her favorite hobby* on *a convenient date, plan all of this in advance so that your first date won't fall apart before it's even started* ?"
She'll most likely tell you " I don't know, I just want to be friends..." This is either the truth or a straight out rejection. If it's a rejection, then you probably ween't very good friends to begin with. If it's the truth then she's undecided. That's when you should say something like "I already like you more than a friend *tell her how much you like her, if you're shy about this then you're ruining your chances with her*, give me a chance and if things don't work out then we can still be frinds I promise."
repeat as necessary, be persisitent, it might not work the first time. Show her that you think she's worht the effort.

This will be very difficult for most of you, especially if you're shy. Just take a deep breath. Tell yourself that she's worth the risk. This won't be easy, but it will work (unless she's already decided that she'll never ever ever date you in a million years and she doesn't like you much as a friend either.) But if you are actually good friends this will work.

Oh so true! ^^ It makes me think of one of my fav movie/mini-series quotes: "Flattery will get you everything!"

there is a really good kinda old country song about "just freinds"

its by John Micheal Montgomery, called "Freinds"

if i can find it ill cut and paste it here