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Thunder Foot
Crew

PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 1:49 pm


Hmmm.... I suppose thats one way to power punch, but as I've been taught, a power punch is simply a punch in which you put nearly all your weight into your fist. It s the combination of a step, hip rotation, shoulder placement/rotation, and snap of the tool that creates the power. Power punches SHOULD be able to be delivered with any type of punch, not just one type.

Bruce was able to refine these motions into one fluid movement, to the point were he could generate said power in such a small movement. The force is condensed into a concentrated area, thereby, causing more focal point damage. The snap is the key. There is a small interval within the snap, where the weapon travels at a substantial speed faster than that of a punch without the snap. Its comparable to the difference between being struck with a whip, and being struck with a club. Granted, if you used the exact same amount of power to move each weapon in a strike, the whip would hit 5, if not 10 times harder... due to the snap. I suppose this is hard to explain if you aren't a student of either Wing Chun, or JKD.
PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 5:14 pm


Thunder Foot
Hmmm.... I suppose thats one way to power punch, but as I've been taught, a power punch is simply a punch in which you put nearly all your weight into your fist. It s the combination of a step, hip rotation, shoulder placement/rotation, and snap of the tool that creates the power. Power punches SHOULD be able to be delivered with any type of punch, not just one type.

Bruce was able to refine these motions into one fluid movement, to the point were he could generate said power in such a small movement. The force is condensed into a concentrated area, thereby, causing more focal point damage. The snap is the key. There is a small interval within the snap, where the weapon travels at a substantial speed faster than that of a punch without the snap. Its comparable to the difference between being struck with a whip, and being struck with a club. Granted, if you used the exact same amount of power to move each weapon in a strike, the whip would hit 5, if not 10 times harder... due to the snap. I suppose this is hard to explain if you aren't a student of either Wing Chun, or JKD.


Heh, you described the power punch to a perfection. I love the power it generates. when I first learned of it, I was so bad at it, and it was only recently that I've become moderately good at the power punch (Or "Big punch" as my instructor calls it). I've never heard of Peter consterdine, though. Jesse Glover tought the power punch to my instructor and that's how I got it.

The Perennial


Thunder Foot
Crew

PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 11:22 am


The Perennial


Heh, you described the power punch to a perfection. I love the power it generates. when I first learned of it, I was so bad at it, and it was only recently that I've become moderately good at the power punch (Or "Big punch" as my instructor calls it). I've never heard of Peter consterdine, though. Jesse Glover tought the power punch to my instructor and that's how I got it.


Thanks, I try sweatdrop . Yes, I love the power that it genereates too. My favorite aspect of the technique, is the Power IN Speed thats generated... simply amazing that Bruce stumbled upon the idea to refine it to the level he did. Even nowadays, I have seen many people claim to have the one-inch, but I've never seen anyone perform it to the degree that Bruce did.

On another side note, guro Dan was showing me how to apply that same power punch theory to trapping. Quite interesting... I'm currently working on it to get it down fluidly.
PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 5:26 am


Thunder Foot
The Perennial


Heh, you described the power punch to a perfection. I love the power it generates. when I first learned of it, I was so bad at it, and it was only recently that I've become moderately good at the power punch (Or "Big punch" as my instructor calls it). I've never heard of Peter consterdine, though. Jesse Glover tought the power punch to my instructor and that's how I got it.


Thanks, I try sweatdrop . Yes, I love the power that it genereates too. My favorite aspect of the technique, is the Power IN Speed thats generated... simply amazing that Bruce stumbled upon the idea to refine it to the level he did. Even nowadays, I have seen many people claim to have the one-inch, but I've never seen anyone perform it to the degree that Bruce did.

On another side note, guro Dan was showing me how to apply that same power punch theory to trapping. Quite interesting... I'm currently working on it to get it down fluidly.


I guess the same can be applied to kicks, speed or more importantly acceleration being the key

DarklingGlory
Crew


Deimos_Strife

PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 6:14 am


Thunder Foot
Hmmm.... I suppose thats one way to power punch, but as I've been taught, a power punch is simply a punch in which you put nearly all your weight into your fist. It s the combination of a step, hip rotation, shoulder placement/rotation, and snap of the tool that creates the power. Power punches SHOULD be able to be delivered with any type of punch, not just one type.

Bruce was able to refine these motions into one fluid movement, to the point were he could generate said power in such a small movement. The force is condensed into a concentrated area, thereby, causing more focal point damage. The snap is the key. There is a small interval within the snap, where the weapon travels at a substantial speed faster than that of a punch without the snap. Its comparable to the difference between being struck with a whip, and being struck with a club. Granted, if you used the exact same amount of power to move each weapon in a strike, the whip would hit 5, if not 10 times harder... due to the snap. I suppose this is hard to explain if you aren't a student of either Wing Chun, or JKD.


Could you explain how to execute this punch in detail?
PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 9:32 pm


Deimos_Strife


Could you explain how to execute this punch in detail?


It would be nearly impossible to explain it/teach it through words alone. even video may not be the right way to teach it, as you could develop bad habits from misinterperetation. this punch is a lot easier when taught in person.

Thunder Foot

On another side note, guro Dan was showing me how to apply that same power punch theory to trapping. Quite interesting... I'm currently working on it to get it down fluidly.


Weird. How do you trap and power punch? I have this image in my head that just seems weird, cause you'd obviously trap with your non-punching hand, but when you execute the power punch, that hand is practically the farthest body part away from the opponent. Do you do some sort of pulling into the punch? That is an odd concept to grasp.

Not The Perennial


Thunder Foot
Crew

PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2005 3:12 pm


Not The Perennial


Weird. How do you trap and power punch? I have this image in my head that just seems weird, cause you'd obviously trap with your non-punching hand, but when you execute the power punch, that hand is practically the farthest body part away from the opponent. Do you do some sort of pulling into the punch? That is an odd concept to grasp.


Yes, I was quite confused myself when it was being demonstrated to me... and still am. Basically, The objective is to have the correct weight placement necessary to pull off an effective trap, while still having the body in alignment to deliver a good power punch... depending on which power punch, and which trap is being used. Obviously giving forward prssure, to not only insure the trap, but to also re-inforce the punch as well. The important point of it, is not to OVER compensate when throwing the power punch. Guro was telling me that some people have a habit of over-punching when they deliver a power punch, losing some of the accuracy in an exaggerated motion... thus telegraphing and reducing mobility. All this, when the same power can be generated by refining the moment, and stopping it just a few moments shorter, or so he says. I still don't understand it myself, and I'm currently trying to work the kinks out... which now I have alot of questions to ask. But from what I have gauged, sparring and practicing and at home... it seems that the body mechanics have to be really refined, as in near Godly... because I havn't been able to confidently pull it off myself, even now.
PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 9:29 pm


Ive played games with a vibrating palm technique in em, never thought it was a serious technique cause im not much of a kung fu person, im more of a Grappler/kickboxer so i go with fast an effective, i dun kno but the idea sounds......foriegn to me

Saajei


Benwa

PostPosted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 1:56 am


Going back to the 'power punch' thing (sorry)
Uh, ok - correct me if I'm wrong..
Jab - is used mainly as a feint, and to set up a hook, strike, uppercut etc. or in MA sports, to score.
Any other punch - you should be throwing it with your hips and torso, or with an uppercut, your leading leg and torso, right? I mean, if you dont use your body to snap the punch out, or if you draw your fist back too far its quite easy to either trap the punch or its going to be neutralised..
If you don't torque your body around, the punch is not going to reach as far, and you wont have any weight behind it apart from your arm, which really isn't much. Not to be confused with 'Haymakers' LOL - I'm not talking about over extension, just the principle of striking with your entire body..
Uh, dammit - this is really hard without being able to show you what I mean...
PostPosted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 3:42 pm


Benwa
Going back to the 'power punch' thing (sorry)
Uh, ok - correct me if I'm wrong..
Jab - is used mainly as a feint, and to set up a hook, strike, uppercut etc. or in MA sports, to score.
Any other punch - you should be throwing it with your hips and torso, or with an uppercut, your leading leg and torso, right? I mean, if you dont use your body to snap the punch out, or if you draw your fist back too far its quite easy to either trap the punch or its going to be neutralised..
If you don't torque your body around, the punch is not going to reach as far, and you wont have any weight behind it apart from your arm, which really isn't much. Not to be confused with 'Haymakers' LOL - I'm not talking about over extension, just the principle of striking with your entire body..
Uh, dammit - this is really hard without being able to show you what I mean...


Don't worry man, I know exactly what you're saying.

Ihabia


Benwa

PostPosted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 10:51 pm


Ihabia
Benwa
Going back to the 'power punch' thing (sorry)
Uh, ok - correct me if I'm wrong..
Jab - is used mainly as a feint, and to set up a hook, strike, uppercut etc. or in MA sports, to score.
Any other punch - you should be throwing it with your hips and torso, or with an uppercut, your leading leg and torso, right? I mean, if you dont use your body to snap the punch out, or if you draw your fist back too far its quite easy to either trap the punch or its going to be neutralised..
If you don't torque your body around, the punch is not going to reach as far, and you wont have any weight behind it apart from your arm, which really isn't much. Not to be confused with 'Haymakers' LOL - I'm not talking about over extension, just the principle of striking with your entire body..
Uh, dammit - this is really hard without being able to show you what I mean...


Don't worry man, I know exactly what you're saying.

What was my point? Oh yeah! In this case, wouldn't every punch that you throw with your body be considered a 'power punch'? Heh..
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