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 Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 1:54 pm
Homurakitsune theoretical_cat Homurakitsune theoretical_cat Homurakitsune Butbutbut! What about the "r"?! D: But I'm keeeeeping the name! biggrin Nonono! The pronunciation of the "r"! I don't know it! D: Didn't you see this? Homurakitsune What about "r"? "R" can be pronounced a ton of different ways. =/ I mean is it like the ugly American "r" or the softer European "r" or the Spanish "r" or the French back-of-the-thraot "r" or the Japanese trilled "r" or the extremely rolled Russian "r" or..... what? Oh oh oh I posted the IPA... as best as I could figure out which one the IPA is... It's the Funky Frenchie one. HRelo ush'ka! And keeping in mind that I just guess at IPA after reading the articles on each letter as I go: ʁɛl oʊʃ' kə Oh, okay! ^_^ Thanks! (But just so you know, my computer doesn't like the IPA or any other random symbols so they just show up as boxes. =( Oh well, if I have troubles, I'll just ask then.) Ah. See, R can be pronounced LOTS of ways in Reloshca. Well. Two main ones. It's NEVER trilled. (aww, sort of, but also ok with me. It doesn't fit the sound of it). It does the spanish r (flaps and taps, says IPA people, so that's two or three on its own? neutral It confuses me a little because I hear the difference but can't always tell which one they're talking about) and the French hr-thingy. So yay, nice and confusing. Like I said up above, Non-Frenchie's Revenge. But I'm having fun.
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Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 2:31 pm
theoretical_cat Homurakitsune theoretical_cat Homurakitsune theoretical_cat But I'm keeeeeping the name! biggrin Nonono! The pronunciation of the "r"! I don't know it! D: Didn't you see this? Homurakitsune What about "r"? "R" can be pronounced a ton of different ways. =/ I mean is it like the ugly American "r" or the softer European "r" or the Spanish "r" or the French back-of-the-thraot "r" or the Japanese trilled "r" or the extremely rolled Russian "r" or..... what? Oh oh oh I posted the IPA... as best as I could figure out which one the IPA is... It's the Funky Frenchie one. HRelo ush'ka! And keeping in mind that I just guess at IPA after reading the articles on each letter as I go: ʁɛl oʊʃ' kə Oh, okay! ^_^ Thanks! (But just so you know, my computer doesn't like the IPA or any other random symbols so they just show up as boxes. =( Oh well, if I have troubles, I'll just ask then.) Ah. See, R can be pronounced LOTS of ways in Reloshca. Well. Two main ones. It's NEVER trilled. (aww, sort of, but also ok with me. It doesn't fit the sound of it). It does the spanish r (flaps and taps, says IPA people, so that's two or three on its own? neutral It confuses me a little because I hear the difference but can't always tell which one they're talking about) and the French hr-thingy. So yay, nice and confusing. Like I said up above, Non-Frenchie's Revenge. But I'm having fun. Oh, okay. Well, whatever works then. =)
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Eccentric Iconoclast Captain
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Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 3:11 pm
theoretical_cat Eccentric Iconoclast Relosca?
You could have /s/ go to in front of /k/. It would be an interesting phonotactic rule, and good languages often have interesting phonotactics. ninja ... eek hahahha... sca makes a FUNNY sound. I want to see if it's funny out loud as in my head. Almost. Hmm. It changes the whoooole word. It's cool, but... mmmmm, no... Reloshca could indeed work. Funny that I didn't think of it. No no no. What I was suggesting is that you keep the sound of /ʀeloʊʃkə/, but if you're not going to use the /sk/ sound, make mean "shk."
3nodding
According to your IPA, the syllable stress is on the last syllable? Is that what you meant? Because the schwa is very rarely stressed in real languages.
Also, why /oʊ/ rather than /o/?
Sorry if I seem nitpicky, I'm just trying to help. sweatdrop
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Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 3:49 pm
Eccentric Iconoclast theoretical_cat Eccentric Iconoclast Relosca?
You could have /s/ go to in front of /k/. It would be an interesting phonotactic rule, and good languages often have interesting phonotactics. ninja ... eek hahahha... sca makes a FUNNY sound. I want to see if it's funny out loud as in my head. Almost. Hmm. It changes the whoooole word. It's cool, but... mmmmm, no... Reloshca could indeed work. Funny that I didn't think of it. No no no. What I was suggesting is that you keep the sound of /ʀeloʊʃkə/, but if you're not going to use the /sk/ sound, make mean "shk."
3nodding
According to your IPA, the syllable stress is on the last syllable? Is that what you meant? Because the schwa is very rarely stressed in real languages.
Also, why /oʊ/ rather than /o/?
Sorry if I seem nitpicky, I'm just trying to help. sweatdrop
no, stress on the o. I said stress mark written after the syllable (ʀe loʊʃ' kə, see spacing? Maybe I should have put dashes in, ʀe-loʊʃ'-kə)
And the sc makes the o just o instead of oʊ and has a less strong k sound. And because my brain works that way. On both counts -- the sh/s thing and the oʊ vs o thing. It just has the extended/more-rounded sound.
I'm teaching it like it's some natlang that I just magically know, or something. Which is perhaps a bad approach. But i have the oʊ the same as I have the -u- instead of the plain u--it makes a different sound when I say it, and I'm trying to represent that. That's all. razz
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Eccentric Iconoclast Captain
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Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 5:28 pm
Ah. In IPA, the stress mark goes before the syllable. xp
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Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 7:12 pm
Eccentric Iconoclast Ah. In IPA, the stress mark goes before the syllable. xp Oh. Well. I'm weird and never got that memo? I just expect the accent to be on the vowel, and since that certainly can't happen, I put it after. Like when I'm not bothering to type the accents properly with alt codes in Spanish and instead write em after (" que sera', sera' " and the like). Boldfacing should make it obvious for everyone 3nodding I'll do that from now on so I don't forget.
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Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 4:42 pm
Ich ben ader! =D
1+2+3+4 = 10!
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Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 7:13 pm
Ich neshteu ona tompa de prazen en andluen. sweatdrop
I need a tense of present in action / I need a present progressive tense.
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Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 7:18 pm
I understood what you typed in the title. Sweet. cool
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Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 7:39 pm
Hermonie Urameshi I understood what you typed in the title. Sweet. cool So, which language do you speak? French? blaugh Very cool though. I want it to be understandable... I've just added -ar verbs in present tense. Need -ir and then progressive and mmmm...can't think of the word. ae is the first person in this one. Completed action. Present Perfect? I'll come to it. I should probably get to a simple past first, but I'm kind of rolling with it, so... it's all good.
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Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 8:14 pm
theoretical_cat Ich neshteu ona tompa de prazen en andluen. sweatdrop I need a tense of present in action / I need a present progressive tense. You could use what I did. Just use the infinitive or change the ending slightly. That's usually what I do in my conlangs. PS: From taking German and French and having a friend who speaks to me in Spanish, I can pretty much understand the basic meaning of whatever you say. Nifty. =)
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Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 8:31 pm
Homurakitsune theoretical_cat Ich neshteu ona tompa de prazen en andluen. sweatdrop I need a tense of present in action / I need a present progressive tense. You could use what I did. Just use the infinitive or change the ending slightly. That's usually what I do in my conlangs. PS: From taking German and French and having a friend who speaks to me in Spanish, I can pretty much understand the basic meaning of whatever you say. Nifty. =) Yeah, andluen was ganked from "Handlung," which, if freetranslation didn't lie, means action. wink
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Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 8:41 pm
theoretical_cat Homurakitsune theoretical_cat Ich neshteu ona tompa de prazen en andluen. sweatdrop I need a tense of present in action / I need a present progressive tense. You could use what I did. Just use the infinitive or change the ending slightly. That's usually what I do in my conlangs. PS: From taking German and French and having a friend who speaks to me in Spanish, I can pretty much understand the basic meaning of whatever you say. Nifty. =) Yeah, andluen was ganked from "Handlung," which, if freetranslation didn't lie, means action. wink Ja, zwar. =) ¡Lêrvül Aprë! -------- Learn Aprë! Sorry, I just made the verb "to learn" so I had to use it somewhere. xD
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Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 7:53 pm
ar, er, and ir verbs! Now you can conjugate all three in the present tense! biggrin
abir means to have, by the way.
Ich abu = Ich habe ninja
And now a couple more words. A few verbs, a few adjectives, and GASP-- adverbs.
Malifique and bonuemont. Guess what each means.
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