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Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 9:44 pm
...Them standing still is the PROBLEM. And the Awakening villagers aren't running for the enemy, they're running to a fixed point, and are also moving away from other enemies. Hardly idiotic. It's up to you to be competent. That's it. That's the mission. And it's not that hard. (RD, on the other hand, takes any chance at saving them all completely away through dickery and the civs can't move to try and get away at all) Plus, they can be completely ignored. The rewards are useless in the long run. RD's CANNOT BE IGNORED. Even if all you have to do is eventually go and get to save one with Nailah, you're still being rewarded by winning the mission. That seems like a pretty damn noticeable reward to me but I hey I like progressing through games, maybe not everyone does. Seraph Robe or being able to progress, your choice.
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Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 5:40 pm
Sorry for the wait. This week's Best/Worst Personal Weapon (Holy Weapons count)
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Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 6:12 pm
Best: Amiti (FE10) Elincia's personal sword is an unlimited-use brave weapon, and it gets even stronger in FE10 than it was in FE9. It may not be as strong as other weapons (or have range), but the x2 hits were always welcome.
I'm probably overlooking other, really good weapons, but, personally, I just couldn't put anything else here.
Worst: Missiletainn I almost forgot about Chrom's personal weapon that he has for most of the game. It was almost a toss-up between this one and Missiletainn, but Falchion in FE13 is weaker than even a Steel Sword except when fighting wyvern knights.
If anyone knows of a reason to vote for Missiletainn rather than Chrom's Falchion, then I'm all ears.
EDIT: Welp... unlimited uses makes up for being a modified Iron Sword, so my vote's for Missiletainn now. As much as I love Owain, why does his personal weapon have to be so pointless? crying (Pun was unintended.)
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Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 6:33 pm
Because it has unlimited uses.
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Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 9:53 pm
Best: Holsety. This is always going to be my favorite holy weapon from FE4 hands down. I'm also aware of FE13's Forseti which is a pretty good tome in itself.(Still can't get used to that name though to be honest >.>) Having +5 in speed isn't too bad. But besides the point, why I love this weapon is that it's both fantastic as a tome and there's a pretty cool story behind it.(Which I'll not go into since there's probably a good chunk of you that might want to check out FE4) But to put it simply, part of has to do with why I really like Levin as a character. The scene where the tome is passed onto him really does give him some growth to his character. As I talked about before, he is my personal favorite sage and it's for a very good reason.
As for the tome in itself, Holsety gives +20 in speed and +10 in skill in that game. There has been some discussion onto why Levin and his son, whether it'd be Arthur or Sety are all awesome. Holsety really just makes them so much better units. Levin himself is always a good unit even without Holsety he's great at what he provides. The same goes with Sety or Arthur but it depends on the parents. Also FE4's hit rates aren't exactly accurate for most units. So for this reason Holsety having that extra +20 speed does seriously make a big deal. Most enemies that attack Levin, Sety, or Arthur won't be able to hit them unless they're very very lucky.
I'm a bit undecided on worst though. I'll make my decision by tomorrow hopefully..
EDIT:
Alright I finally did some thinking and made my decision.
Worst: So yeah... about Sol Katti. I'm putting this as the worst mainly because of the weapon's original intention.(Also it doesn't help that it's stuck to Lyn only) But the problem I have with this one in particular is that if you check out the description of the weapon, it's supposed to be designed to fight Wyverns right? I just don't really find it very useful in those terms. The only thing closest to a wyvern is the Fire Dragon.
There aren't other like manaketes or wyvern rider enemies where you'd think it'd have some sort of use against them. But really there isn't. Another problem I have with it is that it's pretty heavy for Lyn to wield. Sure, she can have capped speed and that depends how lucky her levels tend to go in playthroughs. I will say this though, Sol Katti does have critical bonuses and I kind of like its design. Also the animation sprite when she actually does score a critical attack is really cool to see. But I'd still consider it the worst for the above reasons.
I was also considering Durandal as a contender but In FE6 that sword actually had a purpose in that game. Also, it could prove to be really good depending which sword user you gave it to...
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Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 8:38 am
All I want to say, which I've said in the Blast but want to put here, is that there's not much of a point to voting Missiletainn as the worst personal weapon, I feel. From a strictly numerical standpoint, I understand completely: It's basically a Steel Sword with -5% hit and +10% crit, along with +1 Skill. But the entire point of the weapon is that it's a joke. Owain, for all of his great skill with maintaining and repairing weapons, mistakes a common sword for Mystletainn. The Missiletainn is not meant to be a super-serious weapon.
Sigh. I fully aware that it might just be because I'm predisposed to defend Owain, though, so again, if it's because of numbers, I can totally understand the Worst votes. Just keep that in mind, I guess. xp
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Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 10:10 am
Marshmallow Kitty All I want to say, which I've said in the Blast but want to put here, is that there's not much of a point to voting Missiletainn as the worst personal weapon, I feel. From a strictly numerical standpoint, I understand completely: It's basically a Steel Sword with -5% hit and +10% crit, along with +1 Skill. But the entire point of the weapon is that it's a joke. Owain, for all of his great skill with maintaining and repairing weapons, mistakes a common sword for Mystletainn. The Missiletainn is not meant to be a super-serious weapon. Sigh. I fully aware that it might just be because I'm predisposed to defend Owain, though, so again, if it's because of numbers, I can totally understand the Worst votes. Just keep that in mind, I guess. xp No, I'm totally with you Mallow. Even if I haven't gotten the weapon myself, mind you. But I don't feel it's really fair to vote Missletain as the worst weapon. One thing is that it's very easy to miss. How are you supposed to know to put owain into a village to get it in the first place? Usually, most personal weapons aren't that supposed to be that cryptic and for the most part I think they're pretty straightfoward to obtain in the other FE games to their credit.(Just a minor nitpick) As for Misstletain I think of it like Link's Bug catching net in Soul Caliber 2. It's supposed to be his joke weapon and it's not to be taken very seriously, though it's completely off topic example.. sweatdrop All just saying this but there's lots of joke weapons in FE13. How are they any different from misstletain? But anyways, whatever you want to vote for is fine, so I'm not against it. It's opinion based so whatever you want to go with then that's alright.
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Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 12:03 pm
...It doesn't matter that it's a joke? It's a weapon that exists and is a personal weapon. It's eligible for votes.
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Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 12:23 pm
Best: FE4!Lolsety, especially in Arthur's hands.
Worst: Sword of Seals, at least Marth was stuck with a weapon in the end of the game that sucked, but was unbreakable, whereas a statistically miserable Roy is stuck at the end of the game with a weapon with only 20 uses.
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Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 2:17 pm
Corpul, CORPUL, DON'T FORGET CORPUL!
Best: Best weapon for Sety, Forseti. Or, uh, Holsety I guess.
Worst: As for the whole Missletainn thing, I think it should be included in the running for the same reason we don't disqualify Seth from being voted in any category where we can sing songs of his greatness. It's able to be voted, even though it might be an obvious choice for worst and potentially discourage more interesting conversation or debating.
I still sort of want to vote for the Sol Katti or FE7 Durandel as worst. At least you can use the Missletainn for as long as you would use any other weapon with no downsides, but you get the other two for only one chapter, and they are way too heavy for the characters using them. I'll think about it.
I think I still will go with Missletainn for worst, though. I love that it exists, but it's not really all that remarkable.
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Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 2:30 pm
Worst: As for the whole Missletainn thing, I think it should be included in the running for the same reason we don't disqualify Seth from being voted in any category where we can sing songs of his greatness. It's able to be voted, even though it might be an obvious choice for worst and potentially discourage more interesting conversation or debating.
-nods- I guess if you put it that way... Then yeah there's nothing wrong with it. I just hope it's not the only weapon to be voted off the worst. It'd be cool to have variety of different answers and all that...
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Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 2:35 pm
Joke weapon or not, Missiletainn is still a personal weapon you can obtain during the game. So, I'm with Rath and Person on this one.
Actually, I kinda think that the fact that it is/i] a joke weapon is another point against it. Most personal weapons are awesome, even if the character they're attached to can't use them very well. Then you've got Missiletainn, which almost feels insulting to the title of 'personal weapon.'
Or maybe it's just the fact that I really like Owain and am saddened that his personal weapon is just a joke. (I like the joke weapons, but you can give those to anyone, which makes it a bit funnier.)
(If I didn't vote for Missiletainn, though, then I'd probably vote Sword of Seals. Just sayin'.) Never mind. I was reminded that SoS makes Roy usable.
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Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 3:05 pm
But how is it almost insulting? That I'm unsure of myself... Or maybe it's because I'm missing something... -shrugs-
I mean doesn't it kind of make sense for it to suit Owain given that he's well... Like ya know supposed to be silly? Could be just me but I don't really feel bothered by it.
Also I do find it interesting to see Sword of Seals as a worst weapon here. Me personally, I always thought it kind of made Roy like better confused He wasn't exactly really good to begin in the first place. But with that sword, he at least could deal a good chunk of damage with it. I mean yeah, it does have only 20 uses... But I don't think it's that bad.
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Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 3:13 pm
I mostly wanted to simply point it out since it's something to consider. I'm not getting my heart broken by people voting for it.
I honestly want to vote Sol Katti for Worst, circa FE7, because she can only use it for 1 chapter and it's too heavy for her to use against virtually anyone. Eliwood has more Con, and his +5 Str bonus from wielding Durandal helps to mitigate not being able to attack twice, unlike Sol Katti giving +5 Res instead.
At least you can actually use Missiletainn without shooting yourself in the foot.
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Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 3:23 pm
I've never had any problems with Sol Katti or Durandal, so seeing them as suggestions baffles me a lot, honestly.
Having them for the endgame only is cool, imo. You don't have to worry about the limited uses and go all out because it's only endgame. And they aren't suffering by not having them beforehand. People usually store the legendary/super weapons away for a long time anyway in fear of using them up and because they don't have the weapon levels yet.
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