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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 10:34 am


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Rob, question... or anyone can answer... do you know of any books websites what not that tells of the missing or lost years of Jesus? The time between say age 12 to 30.

I have been trying to find things to learn about; that, mitrochondria, and the hCG diet are the three that I am researching now... And I am not finding a whole lot on the first two

p.s. wiki doesn't help as a good source
The only text that really talks about his childhood is the infancy gospel of Thomas but I'd seriously take it with a grain of salt. Much of it is lore from the Medievil era. Jesus from 12 to 30 is a huge mystery. We know next to nothing (if there is anything at all) about him during this time, and it's mostly speculation, rumors, legends, and lore.
PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 10:53 am


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Rob, question... or anyone can answer... do you know of any books websites what not that tells of the missing or lost years of Jesus? The time between say age 12 to 30.

I have been trying to find things to learn about; that, mitrochondria, and the hCG diet are the three that I am researching now... And I am not finding a whole lot on the first two

p.s. wiki doesn't help as a good source
The only text that really talks about his childhood is the infancy gospel of Thomas but I'd seriously take it with a grain of salt. Much of it is lore from the Medievil era. Jesus from 12 to 30 is a huge mystery. We know next to nothing (if there is anything at all) about him during this time, and it's mostly speculation, rumors, legends, and lore.
in other words... James, find something else to research... sweatdrop

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 1:58 pm


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Rob, question... or anyone can answer... do you know of any books websites what not that tells of the missing or lost years of Jesus? The time between say age 12 to 30.

I have been trying to find things to learn about; that, mitrochondria, and the hCG diet are the three that I am researching now... And I am not finding a whole lot on the first two

p.s. wiki doesn't help as a good source
The only text that really talks about his childhood is the infancy gospel of Thomas but I'd seriously take it with a grain of salt. Much of it is lore from the Medievil era. Jesus from 12 to 30 is a huge mystery. We know next to nothing (if there is anything at all) about him during this time, and it's mostly speculation, rumors, legends, and lore.
in other words... James, find something else to research... sweatdrop
Mitrochondria might be a good research subject. Make use of your free access to scientific journals to see what research has been done on Mitrochondria. Most universities give their students free access to Ebsco or something similar.
PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 2:04 pm


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Rob, question... or anyone can answer... do you know of any books websites what not that tells of the missing or lost years of Jesus? The time between say age 12 to 30.

I have been trying to find things to learn about; that, mitrochondria, and the hCG diet are the three that I am researching now... And I am not finding a whole lot on the first two

p.s. wiki doesn't help as a good source
The only text that really talks about his childhood is the infancy gospel of Thomas but I'd seriously take it with a grain of salt. Much of it is lore from the Medievil era. Jesus from 12 to 30 is a huge mystery. We know next to nothing (if there is anything at all) about him during this time, and it's mostly speculation, rumors, legends, and lore.
in other words... James, find something else to research... sweatdrop
Mitrochondria might be a good research subject. Make use of your free access to scientific journals to see what research has been done on Mitrochondria. Most universities give their students free access to Ebsco or something similar.
I am doing that one for a friend, the others are more because of boredom and wishing to learn more, instead of watching tv. biggrin

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 3:33 pm


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I am doing that one for a friend, the others are more because of boredom and wishing to learn more, instead of watching tv. biggrin
Take advantage of your free scholarly journal access while you can.
PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 1:13 pm


I have somewhat good news... depending on how you look at it....

I am going to become an uncle again and have a sister in law... yay... stare

My older brother, not Tatum's daddy, and his soon to be wife is going to adopt a baby.

A lady that works at their farm, is 18 and 7-8 month's pregnant. Sadly the lady doesn't want the child. The two, brother and soon to be sister-in-law, talked the lady into giving birth to the child then letting them have it, because the two can't have children of their own.

I guess this is old news, cause I just heard about it and they say they had this conversation many months ago. *shrugs* sweatdrop Such is how information is given to me... months behind and incomplete

I am glad that, the child will be in a family that can and will love it....
I just hope that, when they do get married, I don't hear what someone said at the last wedding I been to. "so, when are you getting hitched?"... or "It is your turn!" scream

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 2:50 pm


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I have somewhat good news... depending on how you look at it....

I am going to become an uncle again and have a sister in law... yay... stare

My older brother, not Tatum's daddy, and his soon to be wife is going to adopt a baby.

A lady that works at their farm, is 18 and 7-8 month's pregnant. Sadly the lady doesn't want the child. The two, brother and soon to be sister-in-law, talked the lady into giving birth to the child then letting them have it, because the two can't have children of their own.

I guess this is old news, cause I just heard about it and they say they had this conversation many months ago. *shrugs* sweatdrop Such is how information is given to me... months behind and incomplete

I am glad that, the child will be in a family that can and will love it....
I just hope that, when they do get married, I don't hear what someone said at the last wedding I been to. "so, when are you getting hitched?"... or "It is your turn!" scream
That is good news. Congrats on being a new uncle.

That would get annoying fast. Back when I was single I would get similar questions, "when are you getting a girlfriend?" Or other odd accusations. stare
PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 3:50 pm


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That is good news. Congrats on being a new uncle.

That would get annoying fast. Back when I was single I would get similar questions, "when are you getting a girlfriend?" Or other odd accusations. stare

Thanks,

It is a normal conversation piece with my family... any outing or the like those types of questions come up. Even with my own mother...God rest her soul... And although I keep telling them the same thing, they keep responding the same way.

By saying,

"Why?"
"But your great with kids."
"oh your just shy, around girls, it will pass" rolleyes

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 7:33 pm


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Mitochondria is interesting... DNA only passed by the mother, and something that Sumerians seemed to have some sort of understanding of...

There was a passage found in one of the tablets that said something along the lines of a child being 2/3s of a mother and 1/2 of a father... A puzzle except if you consider the proportions of cell DNA... I will try hard to find which book of mine puzzles that one... I know Von Daniken used it, but I don't take him too seriously... He got that from another source.

As to the HCG diet... anytime hormones are involved I get suspicious. The fact is, there is no serious long term study on how this will carry out into old age. Also, the fact that the human body is not designed to absorb hormones through the digestive tract means that more of what you ingest ends up coming out the other end, and hormones are not biodegradable.

I'm not saying that there is no reason to try it. The golden glow on this miracle of Science has me considering a back off of my anti-hormone stance. I still have been burned pretty bad, several times in my life, on things that were just too good to be true, and the HCG hormone seems like one of those things.

I am trying to be a little more careful though by trying supplements that are older and have a longer track record.ATM, There are two sets of supplements that I am considering, that I am more comfortable about taking long term.

One set is what is used for the 4-Hour-Body diet or PAGG diet.
Alpha Lipoic Acid
Aged Garlic Extract with high Allicin potential
Decaffeinated Green Tea Flavanols - 60% potency = 325mg pure EGCG
Biotin(vitamin B7)


These are just various supplements that have different effects in the war on fat...

Calcium Pyruvate 1000mg before meals- Calcium helps cell absorb pyruvate which is supposed to make cells more ready to burn fat instead of hoard it.

Chitosan 1000mg half an hour before meals- If given a chance to enter the intestines, it blocks fat from mixing in bile and being absorbed into the body.


Gamma Linolenic Acid
800mg before meals- reduces inflammation of fat cells. It pretty much makes it harder for fat cells to keep the mass they collected and then it keep s them from becoming inflamed again once they go down.

I will probably make a thread discussing this crap in my guild once I have done all my homework.
PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 8:06 pm


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razz The hgc diet, was just added to the list cause a family member says she is having success with it, But, part of the diet is only intaking 400 calories a day.... on average the human body needs at least 1200 for a female and 1800 for male.

The idea of the oral intake of heromones have a negative side as it can throw off the natural levels. which is why, if someone perscribes hermone treatment the doctors normally montor the blood levels. The diet bypasses it, because the people can take it with out a doctor's order... at the moment. Which is highly dangerous...


hGC is a hermone that helps in producing estrogen or testosterone, depending if male or female. And is used to treat futility issues

Edit: and apparently I can't spell hormone

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 8:32 pm


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LOL
I can't spell anything... Spell check does ALL of my work.

Hormones are just plain scary to me. My mom asks me every time we get together what I think of the HCG diet. I tell her every time that I would rather try everything else that doesn't involve hormones, first. She tells me she agrees with me, but the golden shinyness and happy rainbowiness of its immediate success is getting to her, I can tell... Otherwise she wouldn't bring it up like it's a new conversation every time we see each other.

We actually know 3 people who are on it or have used it. Two ladies right now are dropping weight fast.

One of the ladies has a habit of doing extreme diets every 2 years to drop 50 to 80 pounds for a vacation to the Bahamas, and she gains back what she lost over the next two years...

The other lady who is still on it is one of those gals who want everything the easy way. She had a gastric bypass a couple years back, and although she still isn't as big as she was before she underwent the surgery, she is using the pill to undo some damage she did by not following doctors orders after she lost allot of weight way back when.

The other got off of it a month or so ago, because she got strapped for money, and she is gaining weight back nearly as quickly as she dropped it. Not saying that her regaining of the weight isn't from stress, but either way, it seems to me it is like any other diet pill, and isn't lasting without a serious lifestyle change.

But because of obvious fast results people are flocking to it... and from what I can tell, many of those people are people who have been wanting the easy way since Ephedrine was removed from over-the-counter access... Even my mom, who has been watching Doc Oz religiously for a miracle diet, because she has trouble making time for truly healthy, is getting sucked in... I figure it will take one more person showing a smaller waistline to her for her to buy in.

I guess I shouldn't talk much though, because if I am still plateaued (it feels more like beached) by the end of Summer, I might just give in as well...
PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 8:51 pm


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Given all the research I have done on it, I wouldn't. The reason why it works, is simple

In the female body, hGC is most used to break down fat during pregnacy. So the baby can survive, if mommy can't break down food fast enough. In the male body, like I said earlier it produces testosterone which causes a thousand other things to happen.

If anything, the ladies are gaining the weight loss so quickly for the 400 cal. daily food intake. You can probably find the same results with just the 400 cal. diet, and drinking water...though by medical standards you would be anorexic.

If you did take on a plateau effect, I would suggest changing your routine around. If you lift weight, and you do 3 sets of 8, flip them and make it 8 sets of 3. Add weight to you walks, runs or swims(just not enough for you to drowned, we still love ya Elta).

if your still having issues, use things like coffee, tea, protein, and fiber. Another option, is called an intermidate fasting, haven't tried it myself, so do so at your own risk. The idea is that you go one day without eating, then the next day eat a meal 1.5 times the normal. the next day fast, the following eat... your still creating a deficit in your cals...

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 9:08 pm


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Intermediate fasting used to be my lifestyle, and I still have a tendency to fall into that when I am not paying attention. I think it is a part of my problem really, because my body likes to hoard what it gets now.

I have added weights, but I have a problem that seems to be peculiar. I gain muscle faster than I burn fat... So I gain more than I lose... and I usually don't let myself get bothered because muscle weighs more than fat, but after losing 40 last year, and now I have gained 15 of that back, and my pant size is no longer going anywhere.... Well, I had the reputation of being a beefy girl when I was younger, and it bothered me back then... Now I have allot more fat than I ever had and it is all turning into muscle. My biceps are bigger than my trainers, and my legs would probably equal the pillars of Athena's temple in circumference...

I need to find a way to get the fat cells to let go of what they are keeping without building any more muscle. I switch my exercise routine up every six or so weeks to keep my muscles from getting to used to a work-out, and I have let up on the use of increasing weights to try and stem some of my bulking out... and tried to incorporate more reps and higher pace instead... It has helped slow the bulking process, but I still haven't seen much more progress in the size-down department.

So, until recently, most of my supplements have been mostly for health, but I am hoping to incorporate some that are actually used in helping my body do away with fat. Gonna price the above supplements tomorrow, and if I can afford it, gonna buy one set or the other.

Then I am going to set up two weeks of the diet I put myself on when I started this whole thing last year... I got used to it last year, and plateaued after 6 weeks, but I am going to start switching the diets I seemed to have the most success with at two week intervals...

I'll probably start my new thread tomorrow after I get back from my gym/shopping trip.
PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 9:19 pm


To better demonstrate my leg in proportion to my body...
See
Too bad that isn't my waistline too...

Anyways... My legs aren't so well defined, and there is still some cellulite dimples left, but compared to what my backside looked like last year, the dimples are minimal... One of my thighs nearly equal my waist in girth, and I do not have a small waist... there isn't much fat really, just the dimples high up where my leg meets my butt.

I don't want to be beefy. I don't want people making jokes about my husband being scared of me. God knows my stature was half the reason guys around here didn't approach me (the other half being my dad)... It was also half the reason many people thought I was a lesbian when I was younger.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 9:21 pm


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One thing, a pound of fat weighs the same as a pound of muscle... a pound is still a pound razz

But if you body is hoarding, it may mean that you aren't giving it enough. In cases where your body isn't getting enough, you body tends to break down food better, in an attempt to take everything it can from it.

In the case of hgc people, they aren't even giving their bodies the right amount to keep anything. Their bodies would burn though the minor energy they would get from a meal, though a normal day... even more so if they did anything more than sit.

Have you ever tracked how many cal.s you have eaten over say a week?
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