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Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 1:52 pm
Scalar Warfare I like the part where Hael decided to enter a joke character because he saw I was participating. I am slightly offended by this, I'm not going to lie. It'll be even more offensive when I win. cool @Vintrict: I'd respond but there's so many errors in what you just said, I'd actually have to write a post longer than your own to address them all and I'd rather spend that time beating the Legacy of Kain series. Respectfully.
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Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 1:53 pm
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Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 1:53 pm
You can't call truths errors, so don't take the time to argue it.
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Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 1:53 pm
Reading all of this at first I was like.
smile
...then I was like..
confused
Then it got freaking weird for a bit..
emotion_0A0
Then I kind of stopped because some of it turned into...stupid and I was all like..
gonk ......... emotion_facepalm
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Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 1:54 pm
Having set-up/warning is realistic... watch a REAL tournament/ fight or better yet participate in one. Positioning and timing are vital to executing any maneuver.
Case in point... Jello and Silver fight...subterfuge is abound in that fight but not seems implausible. The fighter tries to mask their maneuvers but the writer is forth coming in everything they do and take into account that there will be leeway when they try to go for something big.
As for the competition, Competition is as Darth states it; two individuals testing their skill and ability against one another through balanced means.
I don't intend to lose fights in order to entertain my opponent. I'm not a jobber. I do however intend to fight on premise of fairness. I expect that they feel the same.
This is most important because we have no real control over how things are perceived by our opponents. We can't force them or even expect them to take an uppercut as we would want them to. So in order to avoid a giant cluster ******** of time-manipulation and NO-U'ing, a give and take must be silently established. How much give or take is dependent on what was done and mostly importantly on how it was executed.
Furthermore, we are essentially giving each other the puppet strings with each post, how else would you get a hit in? Logic? that is subjective just like entertainment is. There are no clear-cut 100% sure fire methods to this. You can't even use reality has a base because s**t changes on a case by case basis involving an infinite amount of variables.
This is simply an agreement made amongst people of common interest that if person A shoots fireball person B either dodges or catches on fire.
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Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 1:55 pm
Darkest Silver Reading all of this at first I was like. smile ...then I was like.. confused Then it got freaking weird for a bit.. emotion_0A0 Then I kind of stopped because some of it turned into...stupid and I was all like.. gonk ......... emotion_facepalm Don't act like you don't have ambiguous clear-ish goop rammed down your throat on a regular basis. Tres is just reflecting reality.
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Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 1:57 pm
Colonel Iyam A Heita Having set-up/warning is realistic... watch a REAL tournament/ fight or better yet participate in one. Positioning and timing are vital to executing any maneuver. Case in point... Jello and Silver fight...subterfuge is abound in that fight but not seems implausible. The fighter tries to mask their maneuvers but the writer is forth coming in everything they do and take into account that there will be leeway when they try to go for something big. As for the competition, Competition is as Darth states it; two individuals testing their skill and ability against one another through balanced means. I don't intend to lose fights in order to entertain my opponent. I'm not a jobber. I do however intend to fight on premise of fairness. I expect that they feel the same. This is most important because we have no real control over how things are perceived by our opponents. We can't force them or even expect them to take an uppercut as we would want them to. So in order to avoid a giant cluster ******** or time-manipulation and NO-U'ing a give and take must be silently established. How much give or take is dependent on what was done and mostly importantly on how it was executed. Furthermore, we are essentially giving each other the puppet strings with each post, how else would you get a hit in? Logic? that is subjective just like entertainment is. There are no clear-cut 100% sure fire methods to this. You can't even use reality has a base because s**t changes on a case by case basis involving an infinite amount of variables. This is simply an agreement made amongst people of common interest that if person A shoots fireball person B either dodges or catches on fire. If someone avoids or negates something I do. I generally just accept it. Its not the players job to make rulings but the judges. Its our job to make sure that the fight is good.
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Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 1:59 pm
Heita, your post is completely countered by the fact that Tyson doesn't yell "Get down" before throwing a punch. And even if he did, it would just be a more taunting, manipulative way of making the opponent fall into his punches out of confusion. This isn't WWE where people call out moves before doing them. There's something else you don't know in terms of setting up moves, but you're not informed enough to know how to execute it, so I won't even try to tell you.
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Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 1:59 pm
I haven't hit you, nor attempted to hit you, because: First, I am a normal human fighter...with a magical weapon. No range, no woo-woo magic, just meat and potatoes. wink Second, your "tactical advantages" have mostly been kite-tactics...followed by an attempt to hit me while I'm off-guard. Likely because, as you've said for quite some time now, you're afraid I'm going to rip your heart out...or some other such nonsense. Last, you've been focusing on interrupting my actions almost exclusively; forcing me to adapt five posts into about three moves. Which, hey, is perfectly cool...But don't expect me to make bricks without clay, home-sizzle. pirate But, by all means, continue as you are! You are exploiting the weakness of a character that was put there intentionally...It's balance at it's finest! Carry on... Pip, pip!
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Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 2:00 pm
What? Like lemon jelly? biggrin
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Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 2:07 pm
And wow guys.... this is supposed to be fun. Stop taking everything so seriously. sad
~Wanders off to yell at people on the phone~
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Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 2:10 pm
Darkest Silver And wow guys.... this is supposed to be fun. Stop taking everything so seriously. sad ~Wanders off to yell at people on the phone~ Fun is whatever a person makes it to be. In a sense, debating is fun. It's just not your style of fun. Instead of complaining about it, just don't get involved.
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Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 2:10 pm
Darkest Silver What? Like lemon jelly? biggrin I've never actually tried that. I blame it on being native to the East Coast.
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Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 2:12 pm
Vintrict Heita, your post is completely countered by the fact that Tyson doesn't yell "Get down" before throwing a punch. But his shoulders tense, he moves in a tell-tale pattern, and he does things that give a sign prior to that punch getting thrown. Just because you're not quick on the uptake and don't know s**t about boxing doesn't mean there aren't signs. You don't have to literally put up a neon glowing sign with bulbs that says "WATCH OUT, A PUNCH IS COMING" to have a warning a punch is coming, which pretty much every boxer ever has and will have. It isn't just "Tyson was standing there.. and then a punch hit the opponent's skull!" There's muscles and bodily motion to give that indicator, well before the punch is executed. That was the most retarded argument you could've possibly made, because professional boxing [by people who aren't past their prime] is -almost nothing but tells, feints, and iterative battle of inches.-
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Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 2:14 pm
I see you are still angry and that's ok but your snide attempts to berate me are taxing.
Secondly you seem to be an extremist...so I will explain this to you better.
If Tyson is throwing a jab... a fast light punch, no warning/prep-time is needed because jabs primarily don't do much damage.
However if Tyson is throwing a hook or uppercut or some form of haymaker, his either A) preps it with subsequent faster/lighter punches that leave his opponent confuse and open or B) ends up warning his opponent through body language such as positioning or due to timing such as the delay between it's execution.
I don't expect people to telegraph their attacks....because even I don't do that. Heita only yells the names of his moves AFTER he has executed them.
However I do take into account that because my character is a bit flashy in execution minus giving overt tells, that most of my opponents have the window to do something about them. Which is why my aim isn't to hit every move... but rather apply so much pressure that eventually they fall prey to some of the harder hitting ones.
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