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PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 7:08 pm


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im actually thinking about making another deck here shortly. ive just gotta go through the cards my dad and i have. im thinking its going to be a blitzkreige deck. the 3 cards that im going to be picking up here shortly are Channel, Black Lotus, and a couple fo Icy manipulators. ill be building it around those 4 cards. probably going to be a blue green deck, now that i think more about it.

anyone got any suggestions?


blitzkreige decks are suppose to be fast and explosive. Icy manipulator is too slow. think of something faster? i dont know what you want to build around. besides cards that help you play things faster
id be using the Icy as more of a defensive measure though
PostPosted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 2:10 am


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im actually thinking about making another deck here shortly. ive just gotta go through the cards my dad and i have. im thinking its going to be a blitzkreige deck. the 3 cards that im going to be picking up here shortly are Channel, Black Lotus, and a couple fo Icy manipulators. ill be building it around those 4 cards. probably going to be a blue green deck, now that i think more about it.

anyone got any suggestions?


blitzkreige decks are suppose to be fast and explosive. Icy manipulator is too slow. think of something faster? i dont know what you want to build around. besides cards that help you play things faster
id be using the Icy as more of a defensive measure though

well. let's think about this for a second.

why is black lotus and channel in the deck? it is to help you get your spells out faster right? if you look and vintage decks. Black lotus is more of a win the game "instandly" type of card allowing you to play things fast and in other colours. Channel is in there probubly to cast big dumb creature out on turn 2.

As for deck build. you are only "allowed" to have 1 black lotus in a deck. and if you are using Icy, it sounds like you are not gonna be playing vintage. so I would instead keep the black lotus in tip top condition and keep it as an investment/ collectors item.

as for the blitzkreige deck, there are TONS of decks like it, blitzkreige, besicly means "FAst and agressive". you telling me only icy manipulator is just 1 card. and Icy is not a blitzkreige type card because it slows you down if anything you will be holding mana out, its a control type card. and you can not really BUILD around black lotus, icy, and channel. I can list tons of decks that use a black lotus and a channel.

you saying colors green and blue. and you want to go for a "blitzkreige" i would not use blue, because blue is more or less a control type color. red cards namely are more fast and "blitzkreige" because of the agressiveness of a red's creatures, which keeps their opponents on the defence and then stablize. I would suggest red/white.

It would really help me out what card abbility you want to build around, say Battlecry, flyers, Unblockable. or a cardname that can shut them down unless delt with like crackleburr or titan's from M11. Icy is not a shut down type card, it is a "you cant use that annoying tapp abbility cause its too powerful for me to handle, so have a paperwieght instead"

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 4:02 am


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im actually thinking about making another deck here shortly. ive just gotta go through the cards my dad and i have. im thinking its going to be a blitzkreige deck. the 3 cards that im going to be picking up here shortly are Channel, Black Lotus, and a couple fo Icy manipulators. ill be building it around those 4 cards. probably going to be a blue green deck, now that i think more about it.

anyone got any suggestions?


blitzkreige decks are suppose to be fast and explosive. Icy manipulator is too slow. think of something faster? i dont know what you want to build around. besides cards that help you play things faster
id be using the Icy as more of a defensive measure though

well. let's think about this for a second.

why is black lotus and channel in the deck? it is to help you get your spells out faster right? if you look and vintage decks. Black lotus is more of a win the game "instandly" type of card allowing you to play things fast and in other colours. Channel is in there probubly to cast big dumb creature out on turn 2.

As for deck build. you are only "allowed" to have 1 black lotus in a deck. and if you are using Icy, it sounds like you are not gonna be playing vintage. so I would instead keep the black lotus in tip top condition and keep it as an investment/ collectors item.

as for the blitzkreige deck, there are TONS of decks like it, blitzkreige, besicly means "FAst and agressive". you telling me only icy manipulator is just 1 card. and Icy is not a blitzkreige type card because it slows you down if anything you will be holding mana out, its a control type card. and you can not really BUILD around black lotus, icy, and channel. I can list tons of decks that use a black lotus and a channel.

you saying colors green and blue. and you want to go for a "blitzkreige" i would not use blue, because blue is more or less a control type color. red cards namely are more fast and "blitzkreige" because of the agressiveness of a red's creatures, which keeps their opponents on the defence and then stablize. I would suggest red/white.

It would really help me out what card abbility you want to build around, say Battlecry, flyers, Unblockable. or a cardname that can shut them down unless delt with like crackleburr or titan's from M11. Icy is not a shut down type card, it is a "you cant use that annoying tapp abbility cause its too powerful for me to handle, so have a paperwieght instead"

well, i dont plan on playing in any tournaments, so there goes that. thanks for the advice about the colors. as such, a red white deck would be good, but ive found that the best fast attack decks are red-green, for direct damage, and some absurdly fast mana production. your say i should keep the Louts in good condition. i keep ALL of my cards in good condition, so it wont be but another card in my deck. another thing is, when i play Magic, its usually just me and my dad playing, and when he first brought out an Icy, i was stunned at the possibilities for using it. he's got a deck that he likes to play with Phage the Untouchable, and if i can, id like to shut her down right quick. besides, i dont think that one or two slower cards in a blitzkrieg deck will slow it down noticeably, especially if you draw them in your initial hand. the last thing is, for this deck to work is HAS to be a green-red deck, because channel costs a brace of green mana, and the stratagy ive worked around the lotus, is to have a mountain out, tap the mountain for a red mana, cast a fireball, thats powered with the three mana from the Lotus, and beef it up even more with Channel, and spend 17 life, to gain 17 additional, when combined with the lotus, 17+3=20=Win. and as far as abilities go, id like to stick with Haste, First Strike, or anything that isnt affected by summoning sickness.

as a small side note, ive got this awesome card called Bogardan Hellkite. its a dragon, i believe it is 7 mana to play, but when it come into play, your opponent looses 5 life. imagine if your playing a red-green, and it gets killed. BOOM! regeneration, goodbye to 5 more of your life.
PostPosted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 11:56 am


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im actually thinking about making another deck here shortly. ive just gotta go through the cards my dad and i have. im thinking its going to be a blitzkreige deck. the 3 cards that im going to be picking up here shortly are Channel, Black Lotus, and a couple fo Icy manipulators. ill be building it around those 4 cards. probably going to be a blue green deck, now that i think more about it.

anyone got any suggestions?


blitzkreige decks are suppose to be fast and explosive. Icy manipulator is too slow. think of something faster? i dont know what you want to build around. besides cards that help you play things faster
id be using the Icy as more of a defensive measure though

well. let's think about this for a second.

why is black lotus and channel in the deck? it is to help you get your spells out faster right? if you look and vintage decks. Black lotus is more of a win the game "instandly" type of card allowing you to play things fast and in other colours. Channel is in there probubly to cast big dumb creature out on turn 2.

As for deck build. you are only "allowed" to have 1 black lotus in a deck. and if you are using Icy, it sounds like you are not gonna be playing vintage. so I would instead keep the black lotus in tip top condition and keep it as an investment/ collectors item.

as for the blitzkreige deck, there are TONS of decks like it, blitzkreige, besicly means "FAst and agressive". you telling me only icy manipulator is just 1 card. and Icy is not a blitzkreige type card because it slows you down if anything you will be holding mana out, its a control type card. and you can not really BUILD around black lotus, icy, and channel. I can list tons of decks that use a black lotus and a channel.

you saying colors green and blue. and you want to go for a "blitzkreige" i would not use blue, because blue is more or less a control type color. red cards namely are more fast and "blitzkreige" because of the agressiveness of a red's creatures, which keeps their opponents on the defence and then stablize. I would suggest red/white.

It would really help me out what card abbility you want to build around, say Battlecry, flyers, Unblockable. or a cardname that can shut them down unless delt with like crackleburr or titan's from M11. Icy is not a shut down type card, it is a "you cant use that annoying tapp abbility cause its too powerful for me to handle, so have a paperwieght instead"

well, i dont plan on playing in any tournaments, so there goes that. thanks for the advice about the colors. as such, a red white deck would be good, but ive found that the best fast attack decks are red-green, for direct damage, and some absurdly fast mana production. your say i should keep the Louts in good condition. i keep ALL of my cards in good condition, so it wont be but another card in my deck. another thing is, when i play Magic, its usually just me and my dad playing, and when he first brought out an Icy, i was stunned at the possibilities for using it. he's got a deck that he likes to play with Phage the Untouchable, and if i can, id like to shut her down right quick. besides, i dont think that one or two slower cards in a blitzkrieg deck will slow it down noticeably, especially if you draw them in your initial hand. the last thing is, for this deck to work is HAS to be a green-red deck, because channel costs a brace of green mana, and the stratagy ive worked around the lotus, is to have a mountain out, tap the mountain for a red mana, cast a fireball, thats powered with the three mana from the Lotus, and beef it up even more with Channel, and spend 17 life, to gain 17 additional, when combined with the lotus, 17+3=20=Win. and as far as abilities go, id like to stick with Haste, First Strike, or anything that isnt affected by summoning sickness.

as a small side note, ive got this awesome card called Bogardan Hellkite. its a dragon, i believe it is 7 mana to play, but when it come into play, your opponent looses 5 life. imagine if your playing a red-green, and it gets killed. BOOM! regeneration, goodbye to 5 more of your life.


Right-o Although the hellkite is good, Regeneration no longer takes the card out of play and puts it into play. so you would not be able to regenerat and do 5 dmg.

Yeah channel and Fireball is good, but card combos like that do tend to take the fun away from for some people.

But here's a green red Blitz deck to look at as an Example this one will shut down a lot of decks. but i dont know how you want to fit the icy, black lotus, probubly take the lightning helix and remove the white mana sources to make it a pure green red for 3 icy and 1 black lotus.

This deck is already Extreamly fast

If you want to add channel in, then I guess take out the burn spells for 4 channels, and 4 fireballs. if you play in a local card shop, take into consideration that channel is a Banned card and might upset some people for it's shere brokenness

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 9:04 pm


How's this for a UB Mimic Vat Deck?

3 Skinrender
2 Myr Battlesphere
4 Sea Gate Oracle

4 Mulldrifter

2 Diabolic Edict
4 Shriekmaw
3 Dark Ritual
2 Echoing Truth
4 Counterspell
3 Mimic Vat
4 Ponder

4 Creeping Tar Pit
4 Darkslick Shores
4 Drowned Catacomb
10 Island
3 Swamp
PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 9:48 pm


Did I hear someone owns a lotus?

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 12:36 pm


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How's this for a UB Mimic Vat Deck?

3 Skinrender
2 Myr Battlesphere
4 Sea Gate Oracle

4 Mulldrifter

2 Diabolic Edict
4 Shriekmaw
3 Dark Ritual
2 Echoing Truth
4 Counterspell
3 Mimic Vat
4 Ponder

4 Creeping Tar Pit
4 Darkslick Shores
4 Drowned Catacomb
10 Island
3 Swamp


I like it! I would think about changing the counterspell for mana leak, because double blue might be problematic. How about Mournwhelk over Echoing truth? in theory, your deck revolves around evoke, and as long as you evoke once your vat can be inprinted. Also being able to discard at their draw will limit their hand size. that abbility can be thought of as card advantage and possibly a game win because their hand will stay dry more or less.

Also remember that you will need to have 5 lands open before you are able to use counterspells and vating.

The only problem I see with the deck would be extremely aggro decks, which marsh casualties should be put in the sideboard. Or even a damnation or two in the maindeck. that way everything dies and you can inprint anything you want.

the deck seems pretty awsome the way it is. But anyways goodluck!
PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 6:55 pm


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I like it! I would think about changing the counterspell for mana leak, because double blue might be problematic. How about Mournwhelk over Echoing truth? in theory, your deck revolves around evoke, and as long as you evoke once your vat can be inprinted. Also being able to discard at their draw will limit their hand size. that abbility can be thought of as card advantage and possibly a game win because their hand will stay dry more or less.

Also remember that you will need to have 5 lands open before you are able to use counterspells and vating.

The only problem I see with the deck would be extremely aggro decks, which marsh casualties should be put in the sideboard. Or even a damnation or two in the maindeck. that way everything dies and you can inprint anything you want.

the deck seems pretty awsome the way it is. But anyways goodluck!

Yeah, I was thinking of putting in mana leak. I'll have to see if I'm constantly wishing for that 2nd blue through play testing.

Not too crazy about Mournwhelk. 3B is kinda expensive for discard 2. Especially since they get to choose what they discard. I'd rather have Hymns if i wanted discard, but I'd rather not discard creatures that could go in my mimic vat.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 7:18 pm


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I like it! I would think about changing the counterspell for mana leak, because double blue might be problematic. How about Mournwhelk over Echoing truth? in theory, your deck revolves around evoke, and as long as you evoke once your vat can be inprinted. Also being able to discard at their draw will limit their hand size. that abbility can be thought of as card advantage and possibly a game win because their hand will stay dry more or less.

Also remember that you will need to have 5 lands open before you are able to use counterspells and vating.

The only problem I see with the deck would be extremely aggro decks, which marsh casualties should be put in the sideboard. Or even a damnation or two in the maindeck. that way everything dies and you can inprint anything you want.

the deck seems pretty awsome the way it is. But anyways goodluck!

Yeah, I was thinking of putting in mana leak. I'll have to see if I'm constantly wishing for that 2nd blue through play testing.

Not too crazy about Mournwhelk. 3B is kinda expensive for discard 2. Especially since they get to choose what they discard. I'd rather have Hymns if i wanted discard, but I'd rather not discard creatures that could go in my mimic vat.


Evoke does not have you "discard" the creature card. everytime you evoke, it is able to be imprinted to the Vat which it why it is such a powerful combo. you sac the creature after it comes into play if you pay the evoke cost.
PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 6:07 am


this is my Green/White Life gain/Elf swarm deck
Creatures
Ambush Commander
elvish harbringer
blinding mage
safehold duo
wellwisherX2
Wren's run vanquisher
Emeria Angel
Heedless One
Serra Angel
Timberwatch Elf
Llanowar ElvesX2
Old Ghastbark
Lone missionary
Voice of the Woods
Imperious Perfect
Elvish Hexhunter
Soul Warden
Arbor Elf
Enchantments
armored ascension
Alpha Status
Reins of the Vinesteed
Shield of the Oversoul
Sorcery
Gleeful Sabotage
Crush of Wurms
Iona's Judgment
Natural Spring
Howl of the Night Pack
Instant
Tanglesap
Naturalize
Giant GrowthX2
Barkshell Blessing
Artifact
Green Mana Battery
Fountain of Youth
lands
Wirewood lodge
PlainsX8
ForestX15  

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 2:21 pm


The moonfolk are an old set from kamigawa, a set that i dont thing any one has every really used or even liked. i wanted to make a play deck of the moonfolk just for fun turns out its now my #7 most powerful control deck ! i work on the idea of having a large hand, drawing cards, land fall, land return, super powerful monsters and finally a deck you cant mill out XD


graceful adapt x1
kamiof the crescent moon x2
counsel of the soratami x2
desendant of soramaro x2
soratami mirror-guard x2
odoro envoy x2
soratami rainshaper x2
soramaro, first to dream x2
spell book x2
venser's journal x2
psyhosis crawler x2
walking atles x3
vigean graftmage x3
roil elemental x2
air servent x2
cloack of mist x2
trinket mage x2
elixer of immotrality x2
ocular halo x3
guard gomazoa x2 ( wanting to get 2 more to replace the air servent )

24 islands  
PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 2:53 pm


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I like it! I would think about changing the counterspell for mana leak, because double blue might be problematic. How about Mournwhelk over Echoing truth? in theory, your deck revolves around evoke, and as long as you evoke once your vat can be inprinted. Also being able to discard at their draw will limit their hand size. that abbility can be thought of as card advantage and possibly a game win because their hand will stay dry more or less.

Also remember that you will need to have 5 lands open before you are able to use counterspells and vating.

The only problem I see with the deck would be extremely aggro decks, which marsh casualties should be put in the sideboard. Or even a damnation or two in the maindeck. that way everything dies and you can inprint anything you want.

the deck seems pretty awsome the way it is. But anyways goodluck!

Yeah, I was thinking of putting in mana leak. I'll have to see if I'm constantly wishing for that 2nd blue through play testing.

Not too crazy about Mournwhelk. 3B is kinda expensive for discard 2. Especially since they get to choose what they discard. I'd rather have Hymns if i wanted discard, but I'd rather not discard creatures that could go in my mimic vat.


Evoke does not have you "discard" the creature card. everytime you evoke, it is able to be imprinted to the Vat which it why it is such a powerful combo. you sac the creature after it comes into play if you pay the evoke cost.

I know, which is why i have the Mulldrifters and Shriekmaws.

I was saying I'd rather use removal on their creatures, rather than discard their creature, because if i remove it i can imprint it. I was considering using nevermaker instead of the echoing truths actually.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 9:11 am


~*Righteous Fury*~


Accorder Paladin- 4
Signal Pest- 4
White Sun's Zenith- 4
Hero of Bladehold-4
Mirran Crusader-4
Ajani Goldmane-3 (Want a 4th)
Emeria,The Sky Ruin-4
Elspeth Tirel- 2
Leyline of Sanctity-1 (dont judge me! XD)
Leonin Skyhunter- 4
True Conviction-2
Victory's herald-2
Plains-22



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 5:42 pm


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~*Righteous Fury*~


Accorder Paladin- 4
Signal Pest- 4
White Sun's Zenith- 4
Hero of Bladehold-4
Mirran Crusader-4
Ajani Goldmane-3 (Want a 4th)
Emeria,The Sky Ruin-4
Elspeth Tirel- 2
Leyline of Sanctity-1 (dont judge me! XD)
Leonin Skyhunter- 4
True Conviction-2
Victory's herald-2
Plains-22



Comments? Suggestions?


its cool, I would put a playset of honor the pure in the deck, 3 ajani is good, 4 is too much. I would also lower emeria land down to 2, replacing two of them with techtonic edge. also 2 plains for 2 more tech edges so you can have a playset of those in there. lower the white sun zenith down to 2, you are able to recure very easily anyways.

if you put honor the pure in there take out the pests because the battlecry mechanic isn't rediculusly good, and the pure doesnt help the pests. i would also think about putting the old elspeth in there just because of the reach it gives

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 5:51 pm


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this is my Green/White Life gain/Elf swarm deck
Creatures
Ambush Commander
elvish harbringer
blinding mage
safehold duo
wellwisherX2
Wren's run vanquisher
Emeria Angel
Heedless One
Serra Angel
Timberwatch Elf
Llanowar ElvesX2
Old Ghastbark
Lone missionary
Voice of the Woods
Imperious Perfect
Elvish Hexhunter
Soul Warden
Arbor Elf
Enchantments
armored ascension
Alpha Status
Reins of the Vinesteed
Shield of the Oversoul
Sorcery
Gleeful Sabotage
Crush of Wurms
Iona's Judgment
Natural Spring
Howl of the Night Pack
Instant
Tanglesap
Naturalize
Giant GrowthX2
Barkshell Blessing
Artifact
Green Mana Battery
Fountain of Youth
lands
Wirewood lodge
PlainsX8
ForestX15


seems fine, I would try to focus on having a playset of cards (4 of a kind) because having playing a deck thats "sudo" highlander style(1 card with the same) makes the deck hard to predict and causes inconsistantcy. i wouldnt use howl of the nightpack unless it is a pure green deck. I think you can also cut out the white side and make it mono green. some cards you have that are white are also avalible in green with diffrent costs and what not. like soul warden is not needed if you have well wisher for example. I think cards like soal warden and soal's asendent is for heavy creature based decks like the "soal sisters" decklist. I would also not use fountain of youth(its a bad card) use elixer of imortality. it serves more of a purpose over fountain of youth. the youth just holds your mana back.

good luck ^^
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