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RevlinHeartsblood

PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 8:50 pm


i guess that makes sense
it doesnt have to look plausible, just as long as its represented on the model and rules allow eh?
PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 3:10 pm


Neogoth666
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Yes
and what´s more, you may changes both pistol and chainsword to say
Power fist/lightning claw and combi-weapon, depending on the unit optionlist.


i was gonna say "so combi-weapons dont require two hands?"
but i figured, saying that, then this would better state my... confusion
or are the veterens just so good that they can wield a combi-weapon in one hand?


No, veterans are no different from any normal marines.
But you can say/imagine them turning power fists off in order to use the weapons.
We would mostlikely get lost with the Grey Knights and Space Wolfs
"True Grit" rule when it comes to marines who shoots with bolters and whacks with a CCW.

Do I sence "Rambo" or "Punisher" moment here.....??

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Inquisitor Brock

PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 1:46 am


Asmondai
Neogoth666
Asmondai
Yes
and what´s more, you may changes both pistol and chainsword to say
Power fist/lightning claw and combi-weapon, depending on the unit optionlist.


i was gonna say "so combi-weapons dont require two hands?"
but i figured, saying that, then this would better state my... confusion
or are the veterens just so good that they can wield a combi-weapon in one hand?


No, veterans are no different from any normal marines.
But you can say/imagine them turning power fists off in order to use the weapons.
We would mostlikely get lost with the Grey Knights and Space Wolfs
"True Grit" rule when it comes to marines who shoots with bolters and whacks with a CCW.

Do I sence "Rambo" or "Punisher" moment here.....??


I don't believe true grit is here in the new codex anymore.
PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 3:46 am


True grit was made into universal special rule AFAIK, and so far only Grey knights in p.armor and SW Grey Hunters do have it in the codex.

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Inquisitor Brock

PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 10:44 am


Ah, ok then.
PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 10:01 pm


could someone give me a quick rundown on what True Grit is? i vaguely recall it

RevlinHeartsblood


Shinobi_8745

PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 12:54 am


True grit gives the model the ability to use a bolter as a pistol in close combat, but never gains the +1 A for assaulting.
PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 8:37 am


i'm thinking of buying a speeder squad, what should i equip them with? i don't run scouts so i know i wont build the storm variant.

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Shinobi_8745

PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 10:01 am


I'd go with assault-cannons all over the place! 8D
PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 7:07 pm


@Shino/Neogoth: True Grit is no longer a USR. That's why it is no longer presented within codices. It was a USR in the old codex. It's presented in the Space Wolves Codex as an actual rule because they came out before the 4th ed rulebook. It's in Codex: Daemonhunters because their True Grit rule applies to Storm Bolters, which is a bit different than normal.

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RevlinHeartsblood

PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 9:14 pm


@Shino: sounds like a nifty little "ability"

@Caleidah: that being said, i guess.... My SM captain is using a storm bolter and powersword.... is he illegal now? im almost positive 4th ed SM codex allowed it, else i probly wouldntve equipped it... 1 sec *grabbing old codex*
...
yeah, old codex says he can use anything he damn well pleases basically...
PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 10:12 pm


Caleidah
@Shino/Neogoth: True Grit is no longer a USR. That's why it is no longer presented within codices. It was a USR in the old codex. It's presented in the Space Wolves Codex as an actual rule because they came out before the 4th ed rulebook. It's in Codex: Daemonhunters because their True Grit rule applies to Storm Bolters, which is a bit different than normal.
What says that I don't know this? XD

I just said what the generic true grit was. :'3

But it's true as you say.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 1:34 am


Neogoth666
@Shino: sounds like a nifty little "ability"

@Caleidah: that being said, i guess.... My SM captain is using a storm bolter and powersword.... is he illegal now? im almost positive 4th ed SM codex allowed it, else i probly wouldntve equipped it... 1 sec *grabbing old codex*
...
yeah, old codex says he can use anything he damn well pleases basically...

he starts with boltpistol and chainsword, any of both can be upgraded to another weapon from a short list, both power weapon and stormbolter are on the list so he is perfectly legal... but he can't claim additional attack for second ccw, which is quite important in the age of 3 attacks characters.
PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 6:53 am


Neogoth: Yeah, what Van Evok says is right. He can take a 2h weapon (the Storm Bolter) and a 1h weapon (the Power Sword).

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RevlinHeartsblood

PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 1:47 pm


woahwoahwoah
doesnt get the benefit of 2 weapons?
....dammit, is it because the storm bolter isnt a pistol?
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