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 Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 8:19 pm
Kyraa AllianceSJR I never want to look at another sports roster again. stressed *blink* something happen? Every year, my mom's store does the uniforms for three seperate soccer clubs. Every year, I do the computer work. And every year, the clubs are completely incompetant when it comes to getting us the rosters in time for people to try stuff on for ordering. So every year, I have to enter everything in over the course of a couple days. There are a few hundred kids in EACH club. And two clubs just switched uniforms, which means EVERYONE gets ALL NEW EVERYTHING.
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Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 8:23 pm
Arilavent Okay, so, the dead from both the sea (Abraham's Bosom, presumably?), and the dead from Hades (Purgatory, for my purposes.) were brought back for judgement. The word hades is the same one translated as hell in Luke 16:23. Most Protestants interpret this as being sheol, a place for the wicked dead, as opposed to the aforementioned Abraham's Bosom for the righteous dead. Based on Hebrews 9:27, it is believed these are only places for the dead to await final judgement - their fates cannot be altered after death. Quote: Now, if they were sent to Hades to begin with, then they were not deserving of Heaven at death. The second judgement, however, gives them this chance. What second judgement? Quote: Now, if you take into consideration Matthew 5:26, the prison example, Hades would obviously be the prison, a place of atonement, which you could be released from after paying your last penny. Only if you take the Matthew 5 example as referring to events that occur after death - but in context, that would be an exceedingly difficult argument to make, given that every other example Christ gives refers to events in life. Quote: And then, of course, Jubel used a whole bunch of stuff about penitence in Greek and whatnot, and it's all somewhat useless in most of the context Blue presented. Where is he making this argument?
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Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 8:25 pm
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Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 8:25 pm
AllianceSJR Every year, my mom's store does the uniforms for three seperate soccer clubs. Every year, I do the computer work. And every year, the clubs are completely incompetant when it comes to getting us the rosters in time for people to try stuff on for ordering. So every year, I have to enter everything in over the course of a couple days. There are a few hundred kids in EACH club. And two clubs just switched uniforms, which means EVERYONE gets ALL NEW EVERYTHING.
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Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 8:29 pm
Yeah. Don't get me wrong, it's a lot of fun, and it's GREAT business for the store. But it would be SO much easier if they got us the information on time, so we don't need to cram all the computer work in on one weekend.
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Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 8:34 pm
AllianceSJR Yeah. Don't get me wrong, it's a lot of fun, and it's GREAT business for the store. But it would be SO much easier if they got us the information on time, so we don't need to cram all the computer work in on one weekend. Heh. Sorry, love.
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Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 8:35 pm
*sneaks in and sticks her nose in Kyraa's ear* heart
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Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 8:35 pm
Gendou The word hades is the same one translated as hell in Luke 16:23. Most Protestants interpret this as being sheol, a place for the wicked dead, as opposed to the aforementioned Abraham's Bosom for the righteous dead. Based on Hebrews 9:27, it is believed these are only places for the dead to await final judgement - their fates cannot be altered after death. Workin' on this one, gimme a bit... Sorry, that was bad usage on my part. The second judgement would be the final judgement, whereas the first was just a decision of where they go to immediately after death. The first isn't so much a judgement, though. Quote: If you take the Matthew 5 example as referring to events that occur after death - but in context, that would be an exceedingly difficult argument to make, given that every other example Christ gives refers to events in life. Doesn't Christ explains the Kingdom of Heaven through wordly examples, though? Quote: Where is he making this argument? Firefall. I'm rethinking that last statement.
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Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 8:35 pm
KijiLinn *sneaks in and sticks her nose in Kyraa's ear* heart Does it fit?! *snuggle* heart
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Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 8:37 pm
Kyraa KijiLinn *sneaks in and sticks her nose in Kyraa's ear* heart Does it fit?! *snuggle* heart HAWT.
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Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 8:38 pm
Kyraa eek Does it fit?! *snuggle* heart Nicely. heart *cuddle*
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Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 8:38 pm
In addition to the above, which is quite a common bit of contested verse in regards to praying on behalf of, or perhaps for (dependent on your interpretation of, "household,") the dead, these also make for some interesting regards when considering interaction with the deceased:
1 Peter 3:18 - 20
1 Peter 4:6
'lo Kiji.
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Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 8:38 pm
There can be only one.
Erm.
Well, maybe more than one, provided they'll shell me some royalties. xd
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Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 8:41 pm
Byaggha There can be only one. Erm. Well, maybe more than one, provided they'll shell me some royalties. xd Careful, don't get your head cut off. whee
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Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 8:43 pm
Calmer 1 Peter 3:18 - 20
1 Peter 4:6 Hmm, they both deal more with those who died prior to Christ's resurrection.
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