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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 3:45 pm
Take it from people more experienced on the matter - if you try and standardize roleplay on Gaia Mainstream you will fail.
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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 3:45 pm
Elliterate @Lolli; I destroy peoples bars all the time. I'm a bad guy, it's what I do. Y'know how you avoid the RAEG? You contact them first. A friendly PM.
"Hey, I want to run some plot for my character, mind if I come in an rob your till?"
When you open the channels of communication, people are much more inclined to cooperate x3
This.
I've had people run a PM by me about robbing/destroying my bar, killing innocents en masse, etc, and it always works out. I just get pissed when people I don't even know come in and are all "RAWR HULK SMASH D<"
Hell, KB even got my support via canon newspaper publishings headlining his murders. rofl That was fun.
So yeah, who knows, open up the lines of communication and I may even actively work WITH plotters. Just extend that courtesy to me first. :3 and I'm sure many other owners feel the same way.
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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 3:45 pm
Mindrapage? We're getting an illithid, Vansin?! Best. Present. Ever.
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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 3:46 pm
...Screw it. We need a villain. A true, honest to goodness, pillage a plunder-type villain to get things interesting on gaia.
1. Profile 2. Revisions 3. ??? 4. Profit off the townfolk.
Genius.
-gets to work-
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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 3:46 pm
Well, if I must be mind raped it might as well be by you, Elli.
Or something cool sounding.
YEAH!
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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 3:46 pm
Martin Spiralwave Mindrapage? We're getting an illithid, Vansin?! Best. Present. Ever.
What!? We're getting an illithid!? How come Martin knew before me!?
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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 3:46 pm
I could just put everybody's characters in RPGmaker XP and people could wander around killing each other...
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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 3:47 pm
Sey Vintrict I remember the days of Commerce when the Oni no Ashita went around and raided bars. Back then, the only other competition was Tobuketsu's Akatsuki, and they were hardly around. Eventually, the Oni became like the number 1 organization until it distilled with drama and busy lives, and everyone vanished other than a few, those few being Dizzy, Wyvern, Kalar, Trinity, and occasionally Naota Takun. That's it. Dude. The Yakuza, remember that? What was the other guild - Ai Leen was all over it, some other military thing I can't think of. Also, Washu's space bar and tavern? YEAH. I need to bug Jello to see if he's got a link back there - I have so many holes on Sey's history from those days because I lost all my saved links when I switched computers. I heard of the Yakuza, but it was too late by the time I saw into it. They were mainly ooc and were hardly rping anymore.
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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 3:47 pm
Standardizing is probably not going to work, nor is making some complex system over who has powers over what.
Simplicity. That is the only way it's gonna work. Once we get past recording what we generally consider to be disbelief-suspension-breaking s**t, and the general information, you're going to start alienating people and making it too hard to control.
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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 3:47 pm
Just to add my two bits in.
Guilds are bad. I can say this from my experience with the DeSeers, we withdrew to a guild, and readjusting for Commerce to try and get fresh blood added to the mix has been nothing but hard. It's not just us, but virtually every guild I've been in for any amount of time has led to extreme stagnation, by merit of never getting new people involved to change things up. Even when new people ARE involved, it's still a little daunting. Hell, the big reason I don't post in the OOC often, despite how much I lurk is the general feeling of it being a small, closed group that makes for a very easy means of alienating someone who doesn't get all the inside jokes, references and s**t. I don't know half the s**t you all talk about in gaian history, despite being around and reasonably active since '04.
As for power levels, it won't work. Not without completely reformatting what Commerce is. And if you do that, then you ruin the biggest reason why Commerce has such a good potential, despite being choked by morons. Freeform is a double edged sword, but it's got more good than bad if you know what to do with it.
Really, KB has it in one. Just being able to say what happened to your character stick from thread to thread is all you need. After that, it's really just a matter of providing interesting plots. If you don't want people to be of a certain power level, then tell them on the side. Heck, I can't think of too many people worth RPing with that wouldn't tone things down just a little if their character was being left out alone because they were just too over the top PROVIDED SOMEONE TELLS THEM. Preferably, someone friendly and polite. Like Elliterate said, things run a lot more smoothly if you talk real nice like to people first. For those people who aren't willing to work with you, just move on. Tell them to find another place to play, if they persist, well, that's what the ability to blacklist people is. So long as you're fair, and don't just banhammer people without warning...
I do agree that stupidly powerful characters shouldn't belong to everybody. But enforcing that...that's the hardest thing to do.
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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 3:48 pm
Vintrict The Vansin It's just rings and s**t, Fiend. We're just a ring enthusiast group. Also, when I say standard of power, I mean that everyone should know exactly where everyone else stands as far as power. And, silly as it sounds, only certain people should be allowed to play really sickeningly strong characters. Because I can bring my main into any thread and very likely, if you compare his character build to theirs, kill the ******** out of a lot of people. I don't see much problem with that, because I never will ever DO that. But there are people who will. And if we're going to try and make awesome stories in a continuity, then the fact is that we won't WANT people like that, people who can waltz in and ******** up everything people work for with their character's stories. I like at least some sort of loose power standardization. Sometimes, a dramatic thing like that is what creates interest. Like, one day, s**t just goes down. Some people get hurt. Some even killed. It's change and change is the necessary evil. It should only be uses sparingly, however. Not what I said. I don't mind someone going into a bar and killing a lot of people. Like Elli said, that's the VS's day job. The point is to make sure that the other guys have a fighting chance. Irresponsible people walking around with superpowerful characters- that's what I don't want. I suppose though, we can just count on people ostracizing anyone who does that. Like Ertai. Then again, there are other cases where people do that, and they're just so popular that people just let it happen.
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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 3:48 pm
The Fiend of the West Well, if I must be mind raped it might as well be by you, Elli.
.:.Puts on the Vivi hat and the French accent.:. Who is this 'Elli' you speak of Monsieur Fiend?
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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 3:49 pm
exp. 99 don't just banhammer people without warning gonk cry
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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 3:49 pm
Instead of trying to draw up rules and lines and standards, just choose a more umbrella-style affiliation system.
Don't overly impose, just use the umbrella of "Gaia Mainstream" that opaj came up (who, imo, has the best definition, and coined the term) that allows threads to be interconnected and act as being part of the same "world." That way you're not stepping on toes, forcing people to play to a certain ideal, or setting anything in stone.
You're just putting like-minded threads under the same umbrella term that allows for more diffusion between them. It'd be more like a "charter" or "affiliation" of various threads than something more cohesive. Roleplaying in Gaia, when you want to expand outwards to include more people, is like holding water in your hand - make a fist, squeeze tightly, and try to bind it further, and it just slips between your fingers.
Laxity is going to be what allows the concept to cast a wide net and get more people. Each thread can still maintain its own rules, and suggested power limits, and things will more or less even out as time goes on. But the last thing you want to do is impose anything strict.
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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 3:49 pm
I heard mindrape and I just assumed illithid...So we aren't getting one?
I feel deceived sad ...
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