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Posted: Fri Dec 25, 2009 8:05 pm
I had a post and Gaia logged me out and lost it... It was mainly about how the change to Freeze was widely accepted because it was a better take of the character and Harley was such a popular character with so much potential to let her go with the show would be a waste. Like the episode she split from the Joker and acctually captures Batman with no way of him to escape until he tricked her into calling Joker. Since Joker couldn't let her do something he couldn't, Batman was freed.
And while the comics usually do their own thing, they do change with the times and what the fans want. Fans of the comics where fans of the show since it was so well done, so changes where made.
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Posted: Fri Dec 25, 2009 8:08 pm
Gaia's been having lots of trouble with that lately. >_>;
Really? That's really weird, but cool. XD Do you know which came first? The comic or the animation?
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Posted: Fri Dec 25, 2009 8:16 pm
Batman showed up in Detective comics back in the 1930s. The show I'm talking about was in the 90s. Natrually there were other shows with Batman and other super heros before the 90s, but as a general rule of tumb 99% of all the well know super heros/villains came from comics first.
Some might change, like Mr. Freeze, but it is rare for somebody new from a show to make it to the comics. Harley is the poster child of such characters. Mainly due to good writing and characterization.
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Posted: Fri Dec 25, 2009 8:31 pm
o_O Well, it makes sense that they have to be popular before they can get a show, but wooow, that's quite a leap...? XD Interaction is such a funny thing...
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Posted: Fri Dec 25, 2009 8:41 pm
To be honest there have always been shows featuring them. Superman had those old cartoons show in movie theaters back when they always had something playing all tht time. I think Batman was more with radio drama like d**k Tracy until the 60's show.... the old "Biff. Bam. Bop" fights of Adam West's day. Or the old Superfriends cartoon which downgraded Aquaman into an overglorified extra. "There's something going on near a body of water? Looks like a job for Aquaman!" The new Justise League cartoon helped him out though. But yeah. I know too much for a person who doesn't read comics..... Yeah I watch the shows and keep up with the "common" knowledge of comics but still.
I should find a way to get paid for this.
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Posted: Fri Dec 25, 2009 8:46 pm
=o If nothing else, its fairly impressive. XD Sometimes it's cooler to know the odd factoid than to just say "it was before my time' and move on. =3
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Posted: Fri Dec 25, 2009 8:50 pm
Point taken. Of course my knowlege of the time frame of comics mostly came from a program on the History Channel. Yes, the History Channel had a 2 to 3 hour program all about the history of comics.... it was cool.
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Posted: Fri Dec 25, 2009 8:52 pm
o_O You're kidding. Dude. The history channel has all sorts of oddities. =O
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Posted: Fri Dec 25, 2009 9:05 pm
Well they had a good point. Comics, mainly super hero ones, started back in the late 20s early 30s in America. Which also happens to be the time frame of the Great Depression. So they provided reletivly cheap entertainment to kids back in the tough times. And from then they usually reflect the time period. Superman fought in War World 2, Marvel hit it big with X-Men around the time of the Civil Rights movement with it's similar messege of descrimination of people being different, Watchmen was all about the Cold War, nuclear weapons usage and things of that nature.
See? The history of comics is also the history of the US, which in turn is more or less the history of the world for the past century.
My next reply will be a little delayed, going to grab a shower.
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Posted: Fri Dec 25, 2009 9:15 pm
=o That's something else. I guess it really makes sense, tho. Did Watchmen ever make it to the animated series gig? Pish, I suppose there's a way to tie history and where we are in the world to all of our literature, art, and even the styles for clothing and home. >_< I just didn't expect the history channel to do serious programing on it. XD
And... umm.. have a nice shower...? o_O
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Posted: Fri Dec 25, 2009 9:34 pm
Thank you I did ^.^
And thankfully Watchmen never got the animated treatment. Most people today still think cartoons are for kids... and Watchmen is most deff NOT for kids. Even if they toned it down.
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Posted: Fri Dec 25, 2009 9:40 pm
XD Well. Neither was the cold war, right? Very cool. =o
You know, it amazes me that people think cartoons are for kids, but the graphic novels aren't. Why? They're basically the same thing...?
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Posted: Fri Dec 25, 2009 9:43 pm
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Posted: Fri Dec 25, 2009 9:44 pm
....o______O That's why the glowing condoms are so popular....?
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Posted: Fri Dec 25, 2009 9:47 pm
Actually.... that wasn't always true... and fact still holds true. The comic The Sandman did a version of "A Midsummer's Nights Dream" and won awards for it. Awards! People saw that a "comic book" won awards that are supose to be only reserved for "lagitimate" works of literature and made it so that nothing the resembles a graphic novel would win that award ever again... for now anyways.
Which is sad. Going back to the days of when they always had something playing in the movie theaters, like news reels, most of the short cartoons especially Disney ones was made with the fact that adults as well as children would watch them in mind... so yeah.
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