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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 8:07 pm
Lol... okay. I looked for it at my normal place for Holic, but didn't see it. Maybe I'll check tomorrow, or later today.
But, chapter 159 of Tsubasa had really interesting news! Fai is supposed to kill Kurogane! Because, like how Fai is FWR's pawn, Kurogane is Yuuko's. Which means that, interpreted in this way, the journey of the travellers is really just like chess... like more thn just a 'pawn' idea. Sakura is like the king that Fai and C!Syaoran (possibly like a queen character.... gomen!) are trying to take. And then R!Syaoran is the opposing king. And Mokona... is I dunno. The different worlds are the different squares on the chessboard and you get my drift. Hm... what suddenly came into my head was the CLAMP no Kiseki collectables. Chess pieces!!
I read the spoilers for Holic and I'm thoroughly confused. So, Watanuki doesn't know his parents names... what's that got to do with him disappearing?
Edit: I'm reading the theories floating around chapter 140 of Holic and they're all saying that Watanuki is Syaoran and Sakura's son or Eriol and Kaho's son. I'm actually thinking differently... For R!Syaoran to be so desperate for Watanuki not to disappear says that something of R!Syaoran's depends on Watanuki's existance... is it possible that Watanuki is Sakura or Syaoran's father?
Sorry for the long post! xd
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 12:56 am
Wow Uma Mandy the point about Watanuki being Sayoran and Sakura's son is like wow, this would be really interesting. I read the new chapter for Tsubasa and well I feel so sad for Mokona and Sayoran. They did faint right. And now Kurogane he is so angry I mean mad. Fay is really going to get it this time. sweatdrop
Just one quick question does it mean that King Ashura is not as evil that we all thought about it? 3nodding
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 7:34 am
I guess not but we don't know for sure yet. But about the whole Holic thing, that would be so weird if Wata-kun was Sakura and Syaoran's kid ne? I'm thinking that this R!Syaoran could be the acutal one from CCS who grew up and had a kid with Sakura but something about this whole "Dream" thing that keep talking about might have interfered with the space time continuem or FWR may have gone back in time to capture R!Syaoran when he was just a kid and decided to clone him and all that. Now that is interfering with Watanuki's life because if Syaoran and Sakura never grow up and have Wata-kun he doesn't exist and that's why he's been having all those blackouts and that's why he can't remember his parents.
But that is interesting that it could be the other way around. But I don't think it is that way and here's why. First of all, if Clow is somehow Sakura's father then he would come before Sakura and Wata-kun and Yuuko already know about clow reed and at the begining of the series they talk about the key of clow that Sakura used to caputre the Clow Cards and all that. So that eludes that these events happen after CCS. Plus, Watanuki can see spirits and all that and so could Sakura. (kind of.) I remember Toya could actually see the spirits before Yue stole his power but Sakura could only "feel" them but still that magic could be past on in their family.
But again this all theory and just my opinions and explinations that I can come up with. If anyone else finds anything to the contrary of this do not hesitate to post it. Debating theories is half the fun. ^_^
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 6:32 pm
Wow... your point about R!Syaoran was good. I mean, it's not the first time someone has messed with the space-time continuem... And unless I'm imagining something, the incident in Sharano-Shurano had a really bad effect on Yuuko's shop.
What I was thinking of Wata being Sakura or Syaoran's dad was, for Sakura, that Watanuki was a bit like Chibi Moon in Sailor Moon. So Clow could be Watanuki from the future who went to the past to help Yuuko create the Mokonas to help Sakura... or something like that.
If it was Syaoran, heck, long story short: We don't know who CCS!Syaoran's dad is.
And I agree, I think R!Syaoran is CCS!Syaoran
Edit: Oh! I just realised! When R!Syaoran faints in TRC, his soul travels to the dream world in xxxHolic!
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 8:39 am
Yep he totally does! And are you saying that Wata-kun could be a younger Clow Reed? (Interesting...)
But I really do think that R!Syaoran is the one from CCS. I mean he acts a LOT like him don't you think?
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Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 1:21 am
A lot more than C!Syaoran, yep yep! What I was thinking about R!Syaoran for a LONG time (like, from the moment I realised what he was in regard to C!Syaoran), was that after he left Tokyo for a couple of years he got caught by FWR. Actually... now that I think about it, R!Syaoran was kidnapped when he was about 8-9 (cos the clone's 7 years old) so, that can't really be right. He left Japan when he was 11 and came back when he was 13, so yeah, that's not right at all!
Damn... there goes that theory... suddenly, your first theory seems a hell of a lot more plausible razz
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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 5:33 pm
The idea of Watanuki being a younger alter!Clow is really interesting! CLAMP really do to love write very tangly stories. XD The way things are going now, it would surprise if the boy was his own father or something messed up like that. XDDD;;;
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Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 1:12 am
@.@ this is getin confusing....
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Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 6:57 am
All I can say for chapter 160 is HOLY FREAKIN CRAP!
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Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 4:27 pm
All I can say is possibly Ashura was sealed for he could not die because of the tattoo (seal).
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Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 8:59 pm
Isa89 All I can say for chapter 160 is HOLY FREAKIN CRAP! Lol... I must ask: at what? I saw a lot of that chapter coming. Like, I figured that the tattoo was restricting his magic-strength. And Kurogane was going to fight Fai, but probably not kill him but to teach him about the other kinds of strength (like DEFIANCE!!!)
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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 11:11 am
Oh dude for everything! Fai and Kurogane finally get a showdown! But what I want to know is this: If Fai has to kill people who are STRONGER than he is, why would Ashura place the tattoo on him to make him weaker? Wouldn't they want Fai to get as extremely powerful as possible so that no one would surpass his power and then he wouldn't have to kill them?
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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 2:28 pm
You know the tatto part remindme alot like naruto or sasuke, they both have a tatto to make control their chakra or let say power. For example Naruto's to keep the fox demon inside him from coing out, but Sasuke tatto is from getting evil since the evil guy named Orochimaru bit him and want's to control him, but any aways Sasuke tatto's get's stronger and can be broken if he does not keep thinking about revenge and heatred towards his older brohter Itachi who is more powerful than him. They may not be like Fay's tatto because he uses magic, but there is something familiar to it. Also with the Tattoo Fai or Yui is controled form killing those who are more powerfull than him. And Sasuke also get's powerfull by killing those more powerfull than him and his goal and motive to get the tattoo stronger is by tinking of killing his brother Itachi.
It seem that tattoo are getting very popular in anime shows especially as a weapon to keep the power under controled.
I hope you understand what I'm trying to say sweatdrop 4laugh
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Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 12:01 am
Considering I only watched the first season of Naruto and then got bored many years ago, I only remember Naruto's fox-demon thing. But I do understand what you mean.
Isa: I thought the tattoo was to protect him from the curse. By restraining his magical ability, Ashura 'taught' Fai how to fight the curse. Like, he pretty much went crazy when Sakura became stronger than him, so I thought the tattoo was to stop him going crazy.
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Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 10:24 am
Oh! Okay, I get it now. I thought that the tatoo just cut his magical power in half or something....but I see now, that makes a lot more sense. Thanks guys!
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