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 Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 5:47 am
If it happens every day, it's not a "miracle" stare
And even if it could be..
Person one: "Oh look, the sun is rising, wow, that's a miracle!"
Person two:"Ugh..morning..sun? Make it go away..I wanna sleep.."
..people aren't going to agree.
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Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 2:10 pm
"Purpose" is such a common word that everyone thinks they know how to use it correctly.
People who say that the purpose of sex is reproduction do NOT know how to use it correctly.
U_U
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Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 11:14 pm
Reaper, I think Bill Hicks said something like that about childbirth too in his "Sanctity of Life" (did I get the name right?) joke. He said it's a chemical reaction no more miraculous than defecating after you've digested the food you ate.
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Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 12:42 am
While sitting in the salon the other day, my mom picked up a magazine and then another and then another... all covered with Nadya Suleman, of course.
Minutes later, after much discourse about Ms Suleman, babies, IVF, pregnancy, sex, etc..., she announced that she thinks sex was a way of guaranteeing protection back in prehistoric times. The guy gets what he wants (pleasure), the woman gets what she wants (protection). Not sure I believe this, buuuuuut!
Think about it. People were having sex before they knew what the "purpose" was. They didn't catch onto the phenomenon of sex = pregnancy = baby for a loooong time (and during this time, women were revered because life magically burst from their lady parts. When it was finally figured out, guys decided THEY were the all-powerful ones because it was their magic stick (adapted form of John Stewart's "God stick") that started it all). If humans had lived by the anti-choice philosophy of sex for reproduction and reproduction alone, well... since they didn't know the two were connected, where we would be as a species? Nonexistent? Conundrum!
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Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 10:28 am
Nayva W hile sitting in the salon the other day, my mom picked up a magazine and then another and then another... all covered with Nadya Suleman, of course.
Minutes later, after much discourse about Ms Suleman, babies, IVF, pregnancy, sex, etc..., she announced that she thinks sex was a way of guaranteeing protection back in prehistoric times. The guy gets what he wants (pleasure), the woman gets what she wants (protection). Not sure I believe this, buuuuuut!
Think about it. People were having sex before they knew what the "purpose" was. They didn't catch onto the phenomenon of sex = pregnancy = baby for a loooong time (and during this time, women were revered because life magically burst from their lady parts. When it was finally figured out, guys decided THEY were the all-powerful ones because it was their magic stick (adapted form of John Stewart's "God stick") that started it all). If humans had lived by the anti-choice philosophy of sex for reproduction and reproduction alone, well... since they didn't know the two were connected, where we would be as a species? Nonexistent? Conundrum! No words. Just awesomeness.
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Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 2:25 pm
Aren't less than half of children planned, anyway? I think that alone tells us that most people use sex (aka: have its purpose in) pleasure, rather than procreation.
And I don't know 'bout y'all, but I don't know anyone who has sex only when they want kids, but I know a hell of a lot of people who have sex because it feels good.
I don't understand the genophobia that pro-lifers have.
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Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 3:15 pm
Nayva W hile sitting in the salon the other day, my mom picked up a magazine and then another and then another... all covered with Nadya Suleman, of course.
Minutes later, after much discourse about Ms Suleman, babies, IVF, pregnancy, sex, etc..., she announced that she thinks sex was a way of guaranteeing protection back in prehistoric times. The guy gets what he wants (pleasure), the woman gets what she wants (protection). Not sure I believe this, buuuuuut!
Think about it. People were having sex before they knew what the "purpose" was. They didn't catch onto the phenomenon of sex = pregnancy = baby for a loooong time (and during this time, women were revered because life magically burst from their lady parts. When it was finally figured out, guys decided THEY were the all-powerful ones because it was their magic stick (adapted form of John Stewart's "God stick") that started it all). If humans had lived by the anti-choice philosophy of sex for reproduction and reproduction alone, well... since they didn't know the two were connected, where we would be as a species? Nonexistent? Conundrum!That is hilarious. It reminds me of the question "If no one taught humans how to have sex and make babies, would they be able to figure it out themselves?". I'm not sure, considering how humans don't have as much natural instinct as other animals...
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Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 6:44 am
20 Shades of Crazy Aren't less than half of children planned, anyway? I think that alone tells us that most people use sex (aka: have its purpose in) pleasure, rather than procreation. And I don't know 'bout y'all, but I don't know anyone who has sex only when they want kids, but I know a hell of a lot of people who have sex because it feels good. I don't understand the genophobia that pro-lifers have. I was one of those planned children, while my brother was not...so that's half and half with my family. She seems to regret my brother at times..poor mama..
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Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 10:28 am
I've come across so many pro-lifers trying to compare abortion to allowing rape, murder, or the Holocaust that it makes me sick. All of them seem to miss the point that rape, murder, and the Holocaust involved thinking, feeling, acting, BORN persons, not underdeveloped potential persons. That'd be like trying to compare how eating cake batter can give you salmonella to eating an actual baked cake. It just does not equate. THAT'S SCIENCE.
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Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 1:40 pm
The_Thread _Reaper 20 Shades of Crazy Aren't less than half of children planned, anyway? I think that alone tells us that most people use sex (aka: have its purpose in) pleasure, rather than procreation. And I don't know 'bout y'all, but I don't know anyone who has sex only when they want kids, but I know a hell of a lot of people who have sex because it feels good. I don't understand the genophobia that pro-lifers have. I was one of those planned children, while my brother was not...so that's half and half with my family. She seems to regret my brother at times..poor mama.. "Most women regret abortion!" And they don't regret having kids? lol Quote: Look, I am not some guy who is over-zealous about his religious beliefs and tells people how to run their lives. We christians have reasons to be against abortion. Even atheists have plenty of reasons to be pro-life. This main reason is that they are human and nothing, no matter how many people vote against this, is going to change that. Second reason is, most women who have had abortions regret it. And there is always the possibilty of severe damage. Third reson, pro-choicers have lied. Dum bass. 
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Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 8:10 am
That second post just screams "hurrrrr!" lol They don't even back themselves up.
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Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 12:05 am
NEWS: 'Fundies Say The Darndest Things!' Died and Was RebornBasically, the admin randomly decided to call it quits and make the site read-only, and a mod/co-admin is moving the site here: http://www.fstdt.net/So old-FSTDT! is now dead, go to the new one to post/read quotes from fanatical pro-lifers. Or go to the FSTDT Refugee Forums. Quote: [...]We christians have reasons to be against abortion. Even atheists have plenty of reasons to be pro-life.[...] Am I being paranoid or is anyone else seeing the atheist-bashing here? "Even some of those soulless evil bastards agree with us!" rolleyes Ageiss I've come across so many pro-lifers trying to compare abortion to allowing rape, murder, or the Holocaust that it makes me sick. All of them seem to miss the point that rape, murder, and the Holocaust involved thinking, feeling, acting, BORN persons, not underdeveloped potential persons Quoted For Truth. marshmallowcreampie That is hilarious. It reminds me of the question "If no one taught humans how to have sex and make babies, would they be able to figure it out themselves?". I'm not sure, considering how humans don't have as much natural instinct as other animals... They were obviously able to figure it out, but I seriously wonder sometimes.... It seems like such a weird thing to do, doesn't it?
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Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 7:32 am
Feministing has some great anti-feminist hate mail things and the most recent one is classic anti-choice: Quote: I agree with you.Murder of Innocent Babies before they are born,or immediately after birth is OK with me. Keep up the good fight you sick b*****d. and thank your mother she did not abort you even though she should have!!!!!!!!!!!!! *snickers* Read the comments too.
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Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 7:21 pm
Rosary16 Here's the list of pro-choice arguments and my response to them: 1: Every woman should have a choice. (Here's another one I've heard: "Abortion is wrong, but every woman should have a choose.") Response: The pro-choice movement gives the woman only one choice: Death. Why should murder be an alternative? How about giving the child to a sterile couple? Abortion is a sign of desperation, not freedom of choice. We pro-lifers encourage adoption. Then there's the pro-choicers who, "try to discourage abortion". Or "abortion is wrong, but every woman should have a choice" Hey, genius, it doesn't matter if you "try" to discourage it or you believe it's wrong, but every chick should have a choice. You're pro-choice, whether you want to admit it or not. 2: Rape victims shouldn't have to bear their attackers' babies. Response: Since when did we start protecting scumbag rapists? Killing an innocent baby doesn't unrape the woman. In fact, it puts her at the same level of the rapist and it looks like she's hiding evidence. If she bears the child, investigators could do a DNA test, find the rapist and bring him to justice. Rapists and ***** use secret abortions to cover up their crimes. We should be punishing rapists and *****, not killing babies. 3: Back-alley abortions Response: Women have died from the "safe, legal" abortions, but the pro-choicers never talk about them because they know it'll hurt their cause. The origin of Prop 4, Sarah's Law was a fifteen-year-old girl named Sarah had a secret "safe, legal" abortion and because of a torn cervix, she died. Doctors said had her parents known, Sarah would still be alive. So, take that, pro-choicers. 4: Banning abortion would be a dictatorship (I'm not kidding. This is an actual argument) Response: I didn't know protecting childrens' lives was a dictatorship. Why don't we just kill all children because apparently a child's life is so oppressive. Why don't we just legalize murder if killing an unborn baby is perfectly fine. 5: Crime and child abuse prevention Response: Isn’t barbarically murdering a child considered child abuse? 6: Health of the mother Response: The health of the mother thing has been overally used by pro-choicers. There was a woman named Gianna Molla. Mrs. Molla was pregnant, but she was told by her doctor that if she had this baby, she would die. She thought and she thought and guess what? She chose life. She died giving birth to the baby, but she's a Saint now. Saint Gianna Molla. Another defender of life, whose one of my heroes is Sarah Palin. Most women would abort their down-syndrome baby, but Sarah Palin chose life and gave birth to baby Trig. Even though she's not Catholic, most Catholics love her for choosing life. 7: Overpopulation Response: Are you freaking kidding me? Overpopulation has been an issue for years and yet we haven't run out of food yet. The earth hasn't turned upside down, causing everybody to fall into outer space. 8: The father shouldn't tell the mother what to do with her body Response: I'm one of those people who when I see a commercial that has a single mom and a little boy, my question is, "Where's the father? Not every mother is single." For this argument, my question is, "What about the father?" Just because he's never been pregnant doesn't mean he shouldn't have a say in it. I know that if my mom had an abortion, my dad would be devastated. My mom never would because she's very pro-life, but my point is the pro-choice movement is a very self-centered movement. The father has every right to know about the baby. 9: Government shouldn't tell a woman what to do with her body Response: And yet many pro-choice organizations support countries that force women to have abortions, whether they want to or not. They should government funding for abortions. So much for that argument. 10: Women shouldn't have to have babies Response: When did reproduction become a crime? 11: Unwanted children (I hate this argument with a passion) Response: The pro-choicers say, "Don't impose your religious beliefs on me!" Hey, pro-choicers, don't impose your child-hating beliefs on a precious baby. Who are you to decide if a child is unwanted or wanted? Who are you to decide a child's fate? The pro-choicers aren't God, so they have absolutely no right to choose who lives and who dies. 12: Ban on pictures of aborted babies Response: Sorry, pro-choicers. You gotta face the music someday. This is what your cause is doing. These are the victims of choice. If you don't to see pictures, you should've thought of that before you became pro-choice. 13: Women's Rights Response: If abortion is so empowering, why do millions of women suffer from post-abortion syndrome, depression and sometimes commit suicide? In the pro-life guild. My responses, for the hell of it: 1. We ONLY give them one choice? XDDD LOL. Since, you know, we strap women down and pull fetuses out of them, deep fry 'em, and then eat the unborn as crunchy morsels. We're harpies, guys. No joke. 2. How the hell will further taking away a woman's right to her body help her feel any better at all? x_x 3. Safe, legal abortions have less than like .03% chance of further medical complications, right? And pregnancy has huge, life-long complications, doesn't it? Hmm... 4. I've never heard this. confused 5. I've never heard this either. Me thinks this b***h is makin stuff up. (I'm not calling her that, I always talk like that while being a smartass.) 6. Good for her. That's why it's a CHOICE, genius. Furthermore, is the fetus's life worth so much more than you're making women DIE for the fetus?! How pro-life. rolleyes 7. But it does cause a bad environment and food shortages. And, well, we haven't run out of food in the first world, but in the third world...? 8. A woman has sex with a man and the man gets to control her body for life, because he had sex for her? Gee, I always thought that women aren't supposed to be property anymore. Am I in the wrong? 9. I have never seen a pro-choicer support forced abortion. And I never will. Because then they aren't pro-choice. That's why we oppose necessary parental consent. 10. Women shouldn't be FORCED to have children. being a mother isn't a crime, forcing someone to be one IS. 11. You have no right to choose who does what with their bodies. Tyrannical little... stressed 12. I've never heard someone say this. But I don't care, since they're fake in the first place. 13. Damn right, women's rights. How can you be free when your body is property of the government?
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